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cheese wrote:LZ94, if im not mistaken, you had

5. northfield
6. new prague
7. faribault

now that may be the case skill wise, but didnt faribault beat northfield? now in my books even if northfield may be the better team, faribault beat them so they should be ahead in the seeding. just my opinion though, otherwise good call on the predictions.

I guess I did that because Northfield recently beat New Prague. Also, Faribault has gotten blown out of a few games whereas Northfield has had some closer games with teams such as Red Wing.

Just my take at this point in the season. LOTS of hockey left to be played!

LZ94 wrote:Post Christmas section seeding PREDICTIONS.

1 Mankato West

2 Albert Lea

3 Rochester Lourdes

4 Red Wing

5 Northfield

6 New Prague

7 Faribault

8 La Crescent

9 LeSueur-Henderson/St. Peter/LeCenter

10 Waseca

11 Mankato East/Loyola

12 Austin


Before people burn me at the stake, I put Albert Lea ahead of Lourdes due to each teams performance in the Kiwanis tournament. A.L. controls the play but loses in overtime to Falls in the finals, Lourdes lays a huge egg (8-2) to Denfeld after doing the same thing A.L. did to Falls.

I understand that it's too early to talk about these types of things, but this can be good board talk when your bored.

The West/A.L. games and West/Lourdes games will have great impact in the future.

What about Red Wing? I don't know enough about them.

If you go by current records:
1. west
2. redwing
3. lourdes
4. albert lea
5. northfield
6. new prague
7. faribault
8. lacrescent
9. lsp
10.waseca
11.east
12.austin

by the section picks it will look something like this:
1. lourdes
2. red wing
3. albert lea
4. west
5. northfield
6. new prague
7. faribault
8. lacrescent
9. lsh
10.waseca
11.austin
12.east

lourdes beat red wing and albert lea and will probably beat west. albert lea will take west in albert lea and probably split. northfields loss to faribault was early in the season and they are playing much better than faribault. the #1 seed will have a much easier time of it with the #8 seed than #2-4 will have with #5-7.lacresent isn't a 'darkhorse' and may even get beat by east. east has a very young roster and plays a much tougher schedule. northfield would be a darkhorse pick and capable of pulling an upset over one of the top 4 seeds. still going with lourdes/red wing in the finals. waseca could drop some. they seem to going backwards. they got pummelled by a very mediocre wisconsin team in their holiday tournament

U r suggesting that Lourdes will put in 3 good periods they didn't do it this past weekend in any game and didn't put in a good period at all vs Denfield. If they play like that they will not win the meaningful games.

I know they can but am not sure they will.

EaglehockeyI wrote:

LZ94 wrote:Post Christmas section seeding PREDICTIONS.

1 Mankato West

2 Albert Lea

3 Rochester Lourdes

4 Red Wing

5 Northfield

6 New Prague

7 Faribault

8 La Crescent

9 LeSueur-Henderson/St. Peter/LeCenter

10 Waseca

11 Mankato East/Loyola

12 Austin


Before people burn me at the stake, I put Albert Lea ahead of Lourdes due to each teams performance in the Kiwanis tournament. A.L. controls the play but loses in overtime to Falls in the finals, Lourdes lays a huge egg (8-2) to Denfeld after doing the same thing A.L. did to Falls.

I understand that it's too early to talk about these types of things, but this can be good board talk when your bored.

The West/A.L. games and West/Lourdes games will have great impact in the future.

What about Red Wing? I don't know enough about them.

If you go by current records:
1. west
2. redwing
3. lourdes
4. albert lea
5. northfield
6. new prague
7. faribault
8. lacrescent
9. lsp
10.waseca
11.east
12.austin

by the section picks it will look something like this:
1. lourdes
2. red wing
3. albert lea
4. west
5. northfield
6. new prague
7. faribault
8. lacrescent
9. lsh
10.waseca
11.austin
12.east

Heres my take what rankings will be at the end-
1. west
2.AL
3.Lourdes
4.Red Wing
5.Northfield
6.Fairbault
7.Le Suer
8.Waseca
9.La Cresent
10.East
11.Austin

I meant for New Prague to be 3. Then move the numbers one down and you should figure it out

Sioux Fan wrote:U r suggesting that Lourdes will put in 3 good periods they didn't do it this past weekend in any game and didn't put in a good period at all vs Denfield. If they play like that they will not win the meaningful games.

I know they can but am not sure they will.

they were coming off a tough loss to one of the better A teams in the state and had a let down game. kudos to denfield they didn't. come section time this team will be tested and ready to rock. you need to peak at the right time. you can't expect to not have a let down once in a while during the season, especially with the schedule the eagles are playing.

1 Mankato West

2 Albert Lea

3 Rochester Lourdes

4 Red Wing

5 Northfield

6 New Prague

7 Faribault

8 LeSueur-Henderson/St. Peter/LeCenter

9 Waseca

10 La Crescent

11 Mankato East/Loyola

12 Austin

I don't know how everyone keeps putting AL ahead of Lourdes. Lourdes won handily in their barn 5-1, granted the game was closer than that. I think people are taking in to account how the two teams fared against Defeld in the Christmas Tournament too much.

I have to agree with the golfer guy, head to head should mean more than like opponents. The scary team that is flying under the radar is New Prague. Put them at a 6 seed and you could be in for a big upset. It always seems to me that NP underachieves? If they peak at the right time, I say they are a top 3 team in the section.

it's way too hard to make a perfect list of section rankings. AL, West Lourdes, RedWing, New Prague can all make legitimate cases as to why they're the top team. I think all five of these teams could easily come out of the section, with Northfield being the dark horse in there for an upset or two. West/AL game next week will be big. Either way section semis in Rochester will be great.

I think New Prague is very hard to catagorize. I've seen them play extremely well. They skated with Holy Angels, but were burned by the Stars who took advantage of their defensive mistakes. And I don't kow what happened in Northfield, but the Raiders are a good, hard-working hockey team, and they have no problem gettinig up for the "hated" Spartans.

New Prague can really skate and they can make things happen in the offensive zone, but they need to pay more attention to defensive zone responsibilities. They could be next year's West, because I seem to remember West playing like this two years ago. It takes time to mature and become a complete hockey team.

goaler wrote:They could be next year's West, because I seem to remember West playing like this two years ago. It takes time to mature and become a complete hockey team.

I think maybe people should wait and see what happens before making a comment like this. Unless you are saying they could be next year's West by having one of the weakest schedules in the state to start the season???

La Crescent has co-head coaches and the new co-head coach is Andrew Klingsporn. Andy is a good coach and is doing a great job with the team. Hopefully other teams will give Andy a chance.

Andy is trying to line up La Crescent with some decent scrimmages and hopefully he will be successful. With a few good scrimmages under their belt, La Crescent could hang with any of the top section 1a teams.

Jim9000 wrote:Championship of the Worthington Tourny?

Now that is a major accomplishment...seriously...who have they beat?

I bet if you checked their strength of schedule it it the easiest in Minnesota. You can't think that they will be a threat in 1A...I have heard of teams that won't play them because their coach is such a melon...Other coaches/teams just laugh at him.

geez scout, I'm no West fan but they are undefeated, and New Prague does play many of the same teams.

I just meant that they can grow and become ranked as high as West is this yaer. Look, I know the rap on West, we all do, you've made that case many times. Nevertheless, they are undefeated and considered one of the best Class A teams in southern Minnesota, and maybe in the state; if people like you keep dissing `em and underestimating them, they can use that to their advantage. Frankly, I'd like to be in West's coach's position, with experts like you pissing on `em all the time. I'd post some of your comments in the lockerroom. I bet I wouldn't have any trouble keeping them motivated.

Frankly, two years ago Austin was whipping them regularly. But now that Austin is down, West is supposed to drop them from the schedule? Or East, which went to state two years ago and beat West twice? Or Waseca, which took West to the wire two years ago in a one-goal game? What are they supposed to do? They have conference obligations. It's not like they are scheduling these teams to just make their record look good.

Time will tell how good they are. Maybe St. Thomas is better. Maybe Duluth Marshall. Maybe Warraod They should be, after all Warroad is Warroad, and Marshall and St. Thomas are regional all-star teams. But even I, an anti-West fan, have to acknowledge that this is a pretty talented group of players that have come together at this time, on this Mankato team. They are enjoying life and they should be. It's good to win.

goaler wrote:geez scout, I'm no West fan

But even I, an anti-West fan, .

Did you seriously say that you're "no West fan" and that you are "anti-West"?

Wow. That's the most laughable thing I've heard.

Everytime someone on this "bored" says something negative about West you jump all over them and claim they are the greatest thing ever.

You are their BIGGEST fan. It's ok to admit it. It'll be the first step in admitting you have a problem. You, my friend, have "West Envy".

Just let them play the games, if they're good enough they'll prove it to you and everyone. If not, you won't get caught with your pants down.

[quote]La Crescent has co-head coaches and the new co-head coach is Andrew Klingsporn. Andy is a good coach and is doing a great job with the team. Hopefully other teams will give Andy a chance.

Andy is trying to line up La Crescent with some decent scrimmages and hopefully he will be successful. With a few good scrimmages under their belt, La Crescent could hang with any of the top section 1a teams. [/quote]



What happened to the big arrogant headcase that always would wear suits to the games that took over a couple of years ago, isn't he the coach?

Anyways, looks like they are beating the teams that they should, but I don't think the can "hang" with the top 4 in in 1A. Plus, look at their schedule. Doesn't the coach control the Tournaments and Non-conference games?

Also, looking it the MSHSL website looks like they have many Seniors, how is the JV and whats the prognosis for future years.

goaler wrote:geez scout, I'm no West fan but they are undefeated,

I know the rap on West, we all do, you've made that case many times. if people like you keep dissing `em and underestimating them, they can use that to their advantage. Frankly, I'd post some of your comments in the lockerroom.
Time will tell how good they are. But even I, an anti-West fan, have to acknowledge that this is a pretty talented group of players that have come together at this time, on this Mankato team.

goaler---Thank you for basically saying the same thing as me. I have not once said they were a bad team. In fact, many times I have said they are a good team. I am saying, that they have known for quite some time how talented this group was/is and could have scheduled some better non-conference teams. I understand that they can do nothing about the conference schedule. But it will only hurt this team to not play any tough non-conference games. In case you are not aware the conference they play in is arguably the worst conference in the State. How will this schedule prepare them for a run in the playoffs??

Show me one time where I said West was not a good hockey team goaler.

And I agree that you saying you are not a West fan is quite possibly the funniest thing I have heard in a long time..

LZ94 wrote:

goaler wrote:geez scout, I'm no West fan

But even I, an anti-West fan, .

Did you seriously say that you're "no West fan" and that you are "anti-West"?

Wow. That's the most laughable thing I've heard.

Everytime someone on this "bored" says something negative about West you jump all over them and claim they are the greatest thing ever.

You are their BIGGEST fan. It's ok to admit it. It'll be the first step in admitting you have a problem. You, my friend, have "West Envy".

Just let them play the games, if they're good enough they'll prove it to you and everyone. If not, you won't get caught with your pants down.

are you from west? sure seems like it

Jim9000 wrote:

La Crescent has co-head coaches and the new co-head coach is Andrew Klingsporn. Andy is a good coach and is doing a great job with the team. Hopefully other teams will give Andy a chance.

Andy is trying to line up La Crescent with some decent scrimmages and hopefully he will be successful. With a few good scrimmages under their belt, La Crescent could hang with any of the top section 1a teams.

What happened to the big arrogant headcase that always would wear suits to the games that took over a couple of years ago, isn't he the coach?

Anyways, looks like they are beating the teams that they should, but I don't think the can "hang" with the top 4 in in 1A. Plus, look at their schedule. Doesn't the coach control the Tournaments and Non-conference games?

Also, looking it the MSHSL website looks like they have many Seniors, how is the JV and whats the prognosis for future years.

Their JV is "WEAK" to say the least. Not much coming in Lancer land. They better win this year, they are looking at single digit wins the next couple of years, at best. The "melon" is the other co-coach. Rumor I heard is that he will not be back next year. Just a rumor?

tpshockey30 wrote:

LZ94 wrote:

goaler wrote:geez scout, I'm no West fan

But even I, an anti-West fan, .

Did you seriously say that you're "no West fan" and that you are "anti-West"?

Wow. That's the most laughable thing I've heard.

Everytime someone on this "bored" says something negative about West you jump all over them and claim they are the greatest thing ever.

You are their BIGGEST fan. It's ok to admit it. It'll be the first step in admitting you have a problem. You, my friend, have "West Envy".

Just let them play the games, if they're good enough they'll prove it to you and everyone. If not, you won't get caught with your pants down.

are you from west? sure seems like it

Can one really be from "west"? For example, if you "head west" do you ever actually get there?

southernmnscout wrote:

goaler wrote:geez scout, I'm no West fan but they are undefeated,

I know the rap on West, we all do, you've made that case many times. if people like you keep dissing `em and underestimating them, they can use that to their advantage. Frankly, I'd post some of your comments in the lockerroom.
Time will tell how good they are. But even I, an anti-West fan, have to acknowledge that this is a pretty talented group of players that have come together at this time, on this Mankato team.

goaler---Thank you for basically saying the same thing as me. I have not once said they were a bad team. In fact, many times I have said they are a good team. I am saying, that they have known for quite some time how talented this group was/is and could have scheduled some better non-conference teams. I understand that they can do nothing about the conference schedule. But it will only hurt this team to not play any tough non-conference games. In case you are not aware the conference they play in is arguably the worst conference in the State. How will this schedule prepare them for a run in the playoffs??

Show me one time where I said West was not a good hockey team goaler.

And I agree that you saying you are not a West fan is quite possibly the funniest thing I have heard in a long time..

Scout, changing the topic here, but in your scouts mind, do you think Leivermann has a chance to place D1

"Scout, changing the topic here, but in your scouts mind, do you think Leivermann has a chance to place D1"

bugsysback,

I think he will have to prove himself in Juniors first. I think he has the ability to possibly play at that level but most people do not understand what a jump it really is. Even for the Elite players that play really tough schedules it is a huge jump from highschool to the USHL. I would think he will be a NAHL player. In my opinion. Not that that is a bad thing by any means. He is definately a good player but will have to see how he does in Juniors first.[/quote]

Bugsy -

nice timing.

OU812 wrote:Bugsy -

nice timing.

I thought you would like it

southernmnscout wrote:"Scout, changing the topic here, but in your scouts mind, do you think Leivermann has a chance to place D1"

bugsysback,

I think he will have to prove himself in Juniors first. I think he has the ability to possibly play at that level but most people do not understand what a jump it really is. Even for the Elite players that play really tough schedules it is a huge jump from highschool to the USHL. I would think he will be a NAHL player. In my opinion. Not that that is a bad thing by any means. He is definately a good player but will have to see how he does in Juniors first.

[/quote]
Someone really likes him. Stay tuned

davey wrote:

southernmnscout wrote:"Scout, changing the topic here, but in your scouts mind, do you think Leivermann has a chance to place D1"

bugsysback,

I think he will have to prove himself in Juniors first. I think he has the ability to possibly play at that level but most people do not understand what a jump it really is. Even for the Elite players that play really tough schedules it is a huge jump from highschool to the USHL. I would think he will be a NAHL player. In my opinion. Not that that is a bad thing by any means. He is definately a good player but will have to see how he does in Juniors first.

Someone really likes him. Stay tuned[/quote]

davey,

I have no doubt that a lot of schools really like him. I just think that they will all want him to play at least a year of juniors before he gets any offers. That is all I was saying. I have no doubts that he has had many schools checking him out with the Elite year he had and the start he is having even though the competition is not good. A lot of kids get offers and then go to Juniors but I think with him they will want to see how he does in juniors before any great offers come. I hope he does get a chance to play where he wants!