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Trout wrote:
How many non Minnesota teams have won the Fargo tourney? Has it happened recently?

The last time was 2005:

2009 Edina, MN, Hornets
2008 Edina, MN, Hornets
2007 Wayzata, MN., Trojans
2006 Edina, MN, Hornets
2005 Littleton, Co., Hawks
2004 Eden Prairie, MN.
2003 Chaska, MN,
2002 Edina, MN.
2001 Phoenix, AZ., Firebirds
2000 Minnetonka, MN.
1999 Westminster, CA., Wolves
1998 Edina, MN.
1997 Bloomington-Jefferson, Bloomington, MN
1996 Bloomington-Jefferson, Bloomington, MN
1995 Bloomington-Jefferson, Bloomington, MN
1994 Wayzata, MN.
1993 Bloomington - Jefferson, MN.,
1992 Skokie, Il., Flyers
1991 Bloomington - Jefferson, MN.
1990 Hyland Hills, CO., Hawks
1989 Grand Forks, ND Blues
1988 Moorhead, MN Orange
1987 Glenwood, CO Bruins
1986 Grand Forks, ND Stars

Stillwater not in either becuase of District Tourn.
Lakeville South and STMA are my favorites and Wayzata certainly has a chance. I wouldn't count EP out yet. Really look forward to seeing the brackets. As always, the winner will have one heck of a run.

Gotothenetman wrote:

Trout wrote:what happened in GR and Duluth this weekend? Did the Northern Teams come through? Hermantown?

I saw that Hastings beat Cloquet in the Championship in Brainerd. Has anyone seen the Hastings team at all? There web site shows the only have 4 losses and 2 of them where to Lakeville S.

Hastings must be very good because Cloquet had a very high quality team.

Hastings has a record of 17-4-2
Losses have been to West Fargo 6-5, Farmington 8-2, and Lakeville South (twice) 7-1 and 6-1.
Ties were against Woodbury and Rosemount
Win-loss record a little deceiving, they have not beat any real strong teams.

Thanks Tony, should be fun game then. We can play well one day [4 to 2 win over stillwater] and then struggle some with Roeville[our kids did not come to play] but we all know they are 4th and 5th graders.

It's too bad district 10 teams can't go to Fargo. I think Elk River and Centennial could both fair well. I have seen STMA on a couple occasions, and am very impressed with their defense and goaltending, and general discipline. They will be tough to beat. Watched Wayzata and they look like a very skilled team. EP and others can win on any given night. Should be fun.

Sounds like the Fargo tournament is a blast, heard nothing but good things. Hopefully the kids will eat it up!

Vulcan82 wrote:

EnjoyTheShow wrote:It's too bad district 10 teams can't go to Fargo. I think Elk River and Centennial could both fair well. I have seen STMA on a couple occasions, and am very impressed with their defense and goaltending, and general discipline. They will be tough to beat. Watched Wayzata and they look like a very skilled team. EP and others can win on any given night. Should be fun.

Sounds like the Fargo tournament is a blast, heard nothing but good things. Hopefully the kids will eat it up!

I would rate Centennial over E.R., but have only seen each team once. STMA for the half a dozen times I have seen them, they have one really solid net minder, a good neutral zone trap of sorts, but could use more a of Fluent transitional offense, keeping it simple, gain the blue line, keep it low, and put pucks on the net. See you in Fargo!

Cmon,,, Neutral zone trap and squirts do not go together... unless Jaques came back to mn to coach I think you are streatching it

That's too bad Dist. 10 has their tourney over Fargo weekend.

Eastview 2 Edina 1

I don't know about all the props for STMA, I think they'll have their work cut out for them. They have a very young inexperienced squad, that may be their shortcoming in this marathon. I would be more apt to give a nodd to a more senior team like EP, Tonka or Lakeville S. I think in the end the team to beat will end up being Wayzata but I think the other 3 I just mentioned will be there in the end as well. Can't wait to see the brackets though, may bring a little more clarity to everyones crystal ball.

Fargo Tournament

Let's not forget the teams in Minnesota and North Dakota have a slight advantage because of the birth age, everyone else (other states) will only have 99 and 00s. The Minnesota/ND teams have mostly 98 birth aged players.

So I doubt there will be anyone outside of MN that can compete in Fargo.

This brings up another question; who in the field of 64 are some of the weakest teams? They will more than likely be matched up against the power-houses in the first round.

wayupnorth wrote:Fargo Tournament

Let's not forget the teams in Minnesota and North Dakota have a slight advantage because of the birth age, everyone else (other states) will only have 99 and 00s. The Minnesota/ND teams have mostly 98 birth aged players.

So I doubt there will be anyone outside of MN that can compete in Fargo.

This brings up another question; who in the field of 64 are some of the weakest teams? They will more than likely be matched up against the power-houses in the first round.

Top 10 from MN going to Fargo. (NOT IN ANY ORDER)
Roseau
Bloomington Jefferson
Osseo/Maple Grove
Edina
Waconia
Minnetonka
Eden Prairie
STMA
Wayzata
Lakeville South

Someone should write a report about what has been happening in STMA and especially Waconia in the last 4 or 5 years. STMA doesn't have a bantam program to write home about in D5, but the peewees are pretty good (attributed at least in part to the very good squirt team of last year) and the squirts are one of the best in the state. Waconia doesn't even field an A team from 3 bantam and only 2 peewee teams, but now the squirts are getting statewide mention. What's been going on with the little shavers ever so slightly west of town?

Population growth in the community.
New facility creates excitement and boosts recruiting.
Good coaching.

Prior Lake is on the rise. Huge growth in the number of teams at the lower levels although I heard their mite number (maybe Squirt) dropped this year.
Farmington
Rosemount
even Rogers, and some that have been around a little longer, probably weren't much 10 years ago.

Don't take your eye off Mite, boy and girl, recruiting. Because of volunteer turnover associations hit flat spots and cycles in their recruiting. It's all based on numbers. Better numbers give you more revenue, better volunteers, better coaches and better teams.

Old Man Hockey wrote:

wayupnorth wrote:Fargo Tournament

Let's not forget the teams in Minnesota and North Dakota have a slight advantage because of the birth age, everyone else (other states) will only have 99 and 00s. The Minnesota/ND teams have mostly 98 birth aged players.

So I doubt there will be anyone outside of MN that can compete in Fargo.

This brings up another question; who in the field of 64 are some of the weakest teams? They will more than likely be matched up against the power-houses in the first round.

Top 10 from MN going to Fargo. (NOT IN ANY ORDER)
Roseau
Bloomington Jefferson
Osseo/Maple Grove
Edina
Waconia
Minnetonka
Eden Prairie
STMA
Wayzata
Lakeville South

My take on squirts. two or three kids carry the team. Waconia did it right last year by not playing A squirts with almost all 1st year kids. now they have a good squirt A team. carried by 1. only having 12 kids on the roster and 2 having one line of top end kids that play every other shift. That won't help them in Peewees. especially next year playing in D6. Lakeville South developing and winning more at the end of the year.. good team and my pick to win Fargo. EP #2 with a Top line and a coach that isn't afraid to sit kids and play to win. Don't think that Jefferson has the stamina to make the run but will be a contender. The rest on the list could be put in the final 8 depending on the draw. If you look back at last years super team the farmington team that was suppose to dominate they ran out of gas cause they overplay the two or three kids that have to score to be successful. Brackets should come out soon then the smack talk begins.. anyone wanna put together a march maddness type bracket and post on the board?

wayupnorth wrote:Fargo Tournament

Let's not forget the teams in Minnesota and North Dakota have a slight advantage because of the birth age, everyone else (other states) will only have 99 and 00s. The Minnesota/ND teams have mostly 98 birth aged players.

So I doubt there will be anyone outside of MN that can compete in Fargo.

This brings up another question; who in the field of 64 are some of the weakest teams? They will more than likely be matched up against the power-houses in the first round.

MN has mostly 98s? I'm not sure where your getting your numbers from, but you may want to verify they dont have a little mud on them. I'm not saying there aren't some, but most is unaware.

If the cut off date is I think - (not sure) July 31, then you have all Aug-Dec 98s birth dates.

I would assume not many 00s make the MN Squirt A teams.

This has to be an advantage and why no team outside of MN has a chance.

wayupnorth wrote:If the cut off date is I think - (not sure) July 31, then you have all Aug-Dec 98s birth dates.

I would assume not many 00s make the MN Squirt A teams.

This has to be an advantage and why no team outside of MN has a chance.

Believe cut off is July 1 ( soon to be changed to June 1? ). I assume the out of state teams go by birth year so does that mean they are major squirts and would they be 98 ? or are they major squirt 99 ? or minor squirts ?

wayupnorth..
cutoff date is actually July 1st, you were close, your argument actually gets 1 more month. But my point is, stop making excuses for others, especially using inaccurate numbers. There are certainly some 98's on most teams, but MN teams are not mostly 98's. Teams in our district, tend to have 3 or 4 98's on their team. We have 3 out of a 17 kid roster. We also have at least 2 00's.

Sorry, I was guessing, but with 6 months of 98s available, I bet there are very few 00s on a MN Squirt A team.

This would be almost a two year age just for a July 98 and a July 00 in some cases.

I am just saying with the hockey in MN having a advantage of not only talent, but now age does come into play.

I saw the list of teams outside of MN that won in Fargo, but none since the rule change .

wayupnorth wrote:If the cut off date is I think - (not sure) July 31, then you have all Aug-Dec 98s birth dates.

I would assume not many 00s make the MN Squirt A teams.

This has to be an advantage and why no team outside of MN has a chance.

I know Lakeville South has a couple of 98's. They also have a couple 2000's. This should equal things out right. I could actually list many teams with 2000 players including the top ten. Great topic. How many 2000's playing squirt A? How many 98's?

wayupnorth wrote:If the cut off date is I think - (not sure) July 31, then you have all Aug-Dec 98s birth dates.

I would assume not many 00s make the MN Squirt A teams.

This has to be an advantage and why no team outside of MN has a chance.

I know Lakeville South has a couple of 98's. They also have a couple 2000's. This should equal things out right. I could actually list many teams with 2000 players including the top ten. Great topic. How many 2000's playing squirt A? How many 98's?

With Wayzata having what 11 squirt teams, I would think 00s would be few and far between.


Brackets for Fargo are due out Feb 12.

Someone should put together a February Frenzy (March Madness) pool.

That would be fun and allot of guessing without knowing the out of state teams.

I know STMA has 4 2000's on their team. Alot of youth, but they have done alright so far but time will tell I guess.

[quote="silentbutdeadly3139"][quote="wayupnorth"]If the cut off date is I think - (not sure) July 31, then you have all Aug-Dec 98s birth dates.

I would assume not many 00s make the MN Squirt A teams.

This has to be an advantage and why no team outside of MN has a chance.[/quote]

Believe cut off is July 1 ( soon to be changed to June 1? ). I assume the out of state teams go by birth year so does that mean they are major squirts and would they be 98 ? or are they major squirt 99 ? or minor squirts ?[/quote]

If they are from the Dakotas they are same as MN,
If they are from Cali, Zona, Colorado, S Carolina they are 99 or younger
If they are from Canada they are 99', with a sprinkle of 2000 moveups.

- Keep in mind this is a Fargo trny