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Black Ice wrote:

puuck wrote:New Ulm baseball is a joke, they play junk teams and the coaches sophmore nephew is on varsity, he makes TONS of errors and cant hit to save his life.

From an article in the Mankato Free Press talking about the current coach who took over the baseball team in New Ulm: "taking over for coaching legend Jim Senske who retired in 2004 after 39 yrs. with 707wins , the most wins in the history of Minnesota baseball ", including a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP in class AAA (large schools)

Black Ice, I have no idea what this "puuck" kid is talking about...
New Ulm is a dynasty in HS Baseball. I played against Terry Steinback & crew in '79 & '80, best team we ever played during my HS days...
Anyway... Back to hockey...
I think you hit on a key point about Southern Mn (SMN) hockey. There are some great athletes playing hockey on SMN teams, but do they get a majority of the best HS athletes to play hockey, I don't think they do today. Tradition. In Southern MN, winter sports such as Basketball & Wrestling are king...
Until Southern MN hockey can capture the majority of each school's best athletes, Depth will always be what will hold them back when they get to the State tournament. Yes, once in a while, a team or two from the South will put together some sophmores, juniors and senior leadership to make a run, but that will not happen consistently until they develop more talent depth, year in year out...

How did the weekend go for the 17's, who looked good, did Schmidt play. which team lost to the 16's.

eastranger19 wrote:did Schmidt play

Yes he did

eastranger19 wrote:How did the weekend go for the 17's, who looked good, did Schmidt play. which team lost to the 16's.

The white 17's lost to the red 16's.

White Team 17
41 D Chris Benson
42 D Blake Thompson
43 D Jordan Johnson
44 D Nate Schmidt
45 D Peter Spratte
46 D Mik Ortenblad
47 F Ryan Walters
48 F Tyler Voight
49 F Cole Peterson
50 F Jeff Westerhaus
51 F Ben Persian
52 F Kevin Erickson
53 F Jordan Lovick
54 F Tom Alexander
55 F Scott Holm
56 F Ryan Reilly
65 G Alex Fons
66 G Paul Moberg

wow, this team lost to the 16's?

What did the red 16's beat them by, and how did the other 16 & 17 match ups go, or was that the only one played?

Here's who was on the Red 16 Team:
# Pos Name
21 D Matt Campbell
22 D Daniel Muck
23 D Derek Foubort
24 D Justin Faulk
25 D Sam Windle
26 D Andrew Pitts6
27 F Christian Isackson
28 F Alex Koopmeiners
29 F Chris Fisher
30 F Jordan Palusky
31 F Jack McFarlane
32 F Joey Benik
33 F Justin Crandell
34 F Taylor Hedlund
35 F Sean Paul Lafontaine
36 F Brett Patterson
63 G Brett Larson
64 G Adam Wilcox

eastranger19 wrote:What did the red 16's beat them by, and how did the other 16 & 17 match ups go, or was that the only one played?

Other 17's beat the 16's...not sure on the score.

After watching much of the tournament this past weekend i think the national team will look something like this

D
Leddy
Montgomery
Johnson
Lapic
Schmidt
Alt

F
Pitlick
Zepeda
Hotchkins
Budish
Birkholz
Kohls
Gaarder
Walters
Westerhaus
Rehkamp
Oliver
Persian/maetche

G
Hemingway
Fons

davey wrote:

hockeyfan32 wrote:how many goals did each goalie give up in the weekend

I can only speak for Section 1.

Bruggeman 1 goal against
Arentz 4 goals against

section 1A doesnt have depth like the metro teams because they cant transfer to another school that is 10 min away. Southern teams are usualy all home grown not to many transfers like the metro teams.

Another assessment from watching the entire weekend:

Goalies:
Casper
Fons

Defense:
Red:
Lapic - get a bungy cord - he forgot he was defense - good tryout

White:
Schmidt - glimpses of real player emerged - still looks hurt
Johnson - strong defensive player that makes good choices

Blue:
Leddy - best defense at camp, different than the rest, hands down
Alt - strong player and tryout
Montgomery - good decisions, strong tryout

Forwards:
Red:
Budish - horrible second game - still top 5 player at 54's
Birkholtz - good skills - one way player (his way)-work on this
Kohls - disappears from time to time but when he goes, he's good

White:
Persian - best white forward - consistent opportunities / playmaking
Walters - you have more - played one good period all wkd-against 16's
Voight - good tryout - strong team player with good vision

Blue:
Pitlick - missed second game and his team won big - not his best effort
Oliver - strong player not much more to say - maybe best for tryout
Rehkamp - solid tryout - strong player especially on offense
Skoog - strong tryout - well deserved to go to national camp

Other to watch:
Maetche - workhorse player with great speed, above ave. skill
Reilly - hard worker, good playmaker, good vision, limited with size...
Hennum - visible on the ice from time to time
Gaarder - unfortunately - did little without Budish-type around him

Surprisingly hard to notice during the tryout:
Zepeda
Friedman
Lovick

Wireless wrote:Another assessment from watching the entire weekend:

Goalies:
Casper
Fons

Defense:
Red:
Lapic - get a bungy cord - he forgot he was defense - good tryout

White:
Schmidt - glimpses of real player emerged - still looks hurt
Johnson - strong defensive player that makes good choices

Blue:
Leddy - best defense at camp, different than the rest, hands down
Alt - strong player and tryout
Montgomery - good decisions, strong tryout

Forwards:
Red:
Budish - horrible second game - still top 5 player at 54's
Birkholtz - good skills - one way player (his way)-work on this
Kohls - disappears from time to time but when he goes, he's good

White:
Persian - best white forward - consistent opportunities / playmaking
Walters - you have more - played one good period all wkd-against 16's
Voight - good tryout - strong team player with good vision

Blue:
Pitlick - missed second game and his team won big - not his best effort
Oliver - strong player not much more to say - maybe best for tryout
Rehkamp - solid tryout - strong player especially on offense
Skoog - strong tryout - well deserved to go to national camp

Other to watch:
Maetche - workhorse player with great speed, above ave. skill
Reilly - hard worker, good playmaker, good vision, limited with size...
Hennum - visible on the ice from time to time
Gaarder - unfortunately - did little without Budish-type around him

Surprisingly hard to notice during the tryout:
Zepeda
Friedman
Lovick

How can you give props to Casper. Probably gave up as many goals as anybody on the weekend, including several softies. I saw the kid hanging his head when they played Blue.

davey wrote:

Wireless wrote:Another assessment from watching the entire weekend:

Goalies:
Casper
Fons

Defense:
Red:
Lapic - get a bungy cord - he forgot he was defense - good tryout

White:
Schmidt - glimpses of real player emerged - still looks hurt
Johnson - strong defensive player that makes good choices

Blue:
Leddy - best defense at camp, different than the rest, hands down
Alt - strong player and tryout
Montgomery - good decisions, strong tryout

Forwards:
Red:
Budish - horrible second game - still top 5 player at 54's
Birkholtz - good skills - one way player (his way)-work on this
Kohls - disappears from time to time but when he goes, he's good

White:
Persian - best white forward - consistent opportunities / playmaking
Walters - you have more - played one good period all wkd-against 16's
Voight - good tryout - strong team player with good vision

Blue:
Pitlick - missed second game and his team won big - not his best effort
Oliver - strong player not much more to say - maybe best for tryout
Rehkamp - solid tryout - strong player especially on offense
Skoog - strong tryout - well deserved to go to national camp

Other to watch:
Maetche - workhorse player with great speed, above ave. skill
Reilly - hard worker, good playmaker, good vision, limited with size...
Hennum - visible on the ice from time to time
Gaarder - unfortunately - did little without Budish-type around him

Surprisingly hard to notice during the tryout:
Zepeda
Friedman
Lovick

How can you give props to Casper. Probably gave up as many goals as anybody on the weekend, including several softies. I saw the kid hanging his head when they played Blue.

The goalie that should get consideration is Bruggeman. Had the best numbers from the winter of the six goalies coming into the festival, gave up 1 goal the first weekend, (least of any goalie and gave up the least amount during the second weekend which I believe was 3). Not a flashy goalie but stops the puck which from what i hear is what the goalie is supposed to do.

davey wrote:

Wireless wrote:Another assessment from watching the entire weekend:

Goalies:
Casper
Fons

Defense:
Red:
Lapic - get a bungy cord - he forgot he was defense - good tryout

White:
Schmidt - glimpses of real player emerged - still looks hurt
Johnson - strong defensive player that makes good choices

Blue:
Leddy - best defense at camp, different than the rest, hands down
Alt - strong player and tryout
Montgomery - good decisions, strong tryout

Forwards:
Red:
Budish - horrible second game - still top 5 player at 54's
Birkholtz - good skills - one way player (his way)-work on this
Kohls - disappears from time to time but when he goes, he's good

White:
Persian - best white forward - consistent opportunities / playmaking
Walters - you have more - played one good period all wkd-against 16's
Voight - good tryout - strong team player with good vision

Blue:
Pitlick - missed second game and his team won big - not his best effort
Oliver - strong player not much more to say - maybe best for tryout
Rehkamp - solid tryout - strong player especially on offense
Skoog - strong tryout - well deserved to go to national camp

Other to watch:
Maetche - workhorse player with great speed, above ave. skill
Reilly - hard worker, good playmaker, good vision, limited with size...
Hennum - visible on the ice from time to time
Gaarder - unfortunately - did little without Budish-type around him

Surprisingly hard to notice during the tryout:
Zepeda
Friedman
Lovick

How can you give props to Casper. Probably gave up as many goals as anybody on the weekend, including several softies. I saw the kid hanging his head when they played Blue.

R U Bruggey's Dad?

Lapic and D do not equate. Not a chance he will move to the next level as a D. If he moves forward it will be as a forward.

stud-lee wrote:

davey wrote:

Wireless wrote:Another assessment from watching the entire weekend:

Goalies:
Casper
Fons

Defense:
Red:
Lapic - get a bungy cord - he forgot he was defense - good tryout

White:
Schmidt - glimpses of real player emerged - still looks hurt
Johnson - strong defensive player that makes good choices

Blue:
Leddy - best defense at camp, different than the rest, hands down
Alt - strong player and tryout
Montgomery - good decisions, strong tryout

Forwards:
Red:
Budish - horrible second game - still top 5 player at 54's
Birkholtz - good skills - one way player (his way)-work on this
Kohls - disappears from time to time but when he goes, he's good

White:
Persian - best white forward - consistent opportunities / playmaking
Walters - you have more - played one good period all wkd-against 16's
Voight - good tryout - strong team player with good vision

Blue:
Pitlick - missed second game and his team won big - not his best effort
Oliver - strong player not much more to say - maybe best for tryout
Rehkamp - solid tryout - strong player especially on offense
Skoog - strong tryout - well deserved to go to national camp

Other to watch:
Maetche - workhorse player with great speed, above ave. skill
Reilly - hard worker, good playmaker, good vision, limited with size...
Hennum - visible on the ice from time to time
Gaarder - unfortunately - did little without Budish-type around him

Surprisingly hard to notice during the tryout:
Zepeda
Friedman
Lovick

How can you give props to Casper. Probably gave up as many goals as anybody on the weekend, including several softies. I saw the kid hanging his head when they played Blue.

The goalie that should get consideration is Bruggeman. Had the best numbers from the winter of the six goalies coming into the festival, gave up 1 goal the first weekend, (least of any goalie and gave up the least amount during the second weekend which I believe was 3). Not a flashy goalie but stops the puck which from what i hear is what the goalie is supposed to do.

Leddy may be the top player in his class. Ala the invite to Ann Arbor.

breakout wrote:

stud-lee wrote:

davey wrote: How can you give props to Casper. Probably gave up as many goals as anybody on the weekend, including several softies. I saw the kid hanging his head when they played Blue.

The goalie that should get consideration is Bruggeman. Had the best numbers from the winter of the six goalies coming into the festival, gave up 1 goal the first weekend, (least of any goalie and gave up the least amount during the second weekend which I believe was 3). Not a flashy goalie but stops the puck which from what i hear is what the goalie is supposed to do.

Leddy may be the top player in his class. Ala the invite to Ann Arbor.

Agree with you on Leddy. I thought he was the best player on the ice the whole weekend

I did'nt see Hotchkins name mentioned, did he not have a very good weekend, and also I would'nt count out the range kids, not because of how good they are, but because of the evaluators that are there, they made it through the first weekend section tourny. Would'nt surprise me.

eastranger19 wrote:I did'nt see Hotchkins name mentioned, did he not have a very good weekend, and also I would'nt count out the range kids, not because of how good they are, but because of the evaluators that are there, they made it through the first weekend section tourny. Would'nt surprise me.

Hotchkins a good player, What I noticed after watching him is he hardly ever gives up the puck. But that may be the nature of the beast at these events since the emphasis seems to be "all about me"

Hotchkins will be on the team. End of speculation. And actually he isn't a "all about me" kid at all.

What's the timetable on the announcement? I see the 16's are up.

Minnesota Hockey National 17 List
Position First Name Last Name
Defense Mark Alt
Defense Joe Faust
Defense Nick Leddy
Defense Garrett Orhn
Defense Nate Schmidt
Forward Schyler Adams
Forward Josh Birkholz
Forward Zach Budish
Forward Connor Gaarder
Forward Caleb Herbert
Forward Cody Hotchkin
Forward Isaac Kohls
Forward Tyler Lapic
Forward Nick Oliver
Forward Ryan Reilly
Forward Ryan Walters
Forward Tyler Zepeda
Goalie Matt Hemingway
Goalie Alex Fons

breakout wrote:Lapic and D do not equate. Not a chance he will move to the next level as a D. If he moves forward it will be as a forward.

I rest my case

I thought Pitlick would have made the National List. After all, he was a tryout invitee to Ann Arbor two seasons ago and I believe he had a good 07 - 08 high school hockey season for Centennial.

Did he have a weak tryout?