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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:04 pm
by PoNd HocKey ChAmP67
so since roch is going to the regular state tournament. does the runner up from there tourney go to VFW state?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:19 pm
by auld_skool
Jefferson 5, Rogers3. Well played game by both teams.

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:00 am
by hockeyma
PoNd HocKey ChAmP67 wrote:so since roch is going to the regular state tournament. does the runner up from there tourney go to VFW state?
They should be going to both -- they are two different weekends -- the 20-22th is MInnesota Hockey State, the 27-29th is VFW State

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:05 am
by puckboy
how was the jefferson/rogers game? Either team loose their composure?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:22 am
by Denier
Rogers had a 2-0 lead on first 4 shots then bad backchecking by rogers caused a short handed goal for Jefferson. Jefferson's goalie had the first penalty if I recall right. Rogers lost their cool and went after the goalie which caused both teams to get penalty after penalty for the first period. It was fine the second period and most of the third until the end Rogers got a penalty with less than 2 minutes and they had their goalie pulled. Congrats to Jefferson to making VFW state.

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:06 am
by sioux
So which teams will be moving onto Eveleth?

I know these teams ahve already qualified.....
District 9 - Moorhead
District 8 -Duluth East
District 4-White Bear Lake
District 7-Jefferson

Wondering what teams will be representing the other districts in the field?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:40 am
by starmvp
Lakeville South. Not sure which district though.

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:15 pm
by bloody bar down
Lakeville So is District 2,
Brainerd is District 6,
Alexandria is District 5

Eagan vs refs

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:35 pm
by bobforhockey
Glovesreallysmell wrote:I went to the game today to check out AV and just to set the record straight the refs were terrible and did miss several serious calls. I would disagree with the previous comment assuming anything about the Eagan team. Looked liked a good bunch off hard working boys trying to win a chance to move on. Ref's just needed to make the right calls early.
Thank you for clarifying. I was not at AV game, so sounds like its more on the refs to keep control.

Re: Eagan vs refs

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:11 pm
by playerplayer1
bobforhockey wrote:
Glovesreallysmell wrote:I went to the game today to check out AV and just to set the record straight the refs were terrible and did miss several serious calls. I would disagree with the previous comment assuming anything about the Eagan team. Looked liked a good bunch off hard working boys trying to win a chance to move on. Ref's just needed to make the right calls early.
Thank you for clarifying. I was not at AV game, so sounds like its more on the refs to keep control.
I am new to this forum but not new to AV hockey or Eagan hockey. I actually live on the border of both cities and am a fan of both teams and have no ties to either team, just like good hockey. I have seen all games between AV/Eagan this year and yesterdays game was no different than the others. Both teams played well and I didn't see the hits from behind these people are talking about. I was actually right next to the hit where the AV guy got hurt. Here's the problem the kid had that nobody is talking about. Both the AV and Eagan player were going for the puck and unfortunately for the AV guy he was near the boards but not against them. The Eagan player did give him a big hit, I will admit that but I didn't think it was from behind, it was from the side. The reason he got hurt was because he had room between him and the boards and when he was hit went into them really hard. It was scary but to stick up for the Eagan guy he was just playing passionate hockey and not intending for the kid to get hurt like he did. Let's remember something folks, the game of hockey is a violent sport. If you don't want your kid to have a chance of getting hurt buy him/her a set of golf clubs or a pair of running shoes. As far as the other comments about Eagan being a cheap team or whatever people are saying, I've followed them and AV all year and neither team is cheap. They are very even in talent but AV has a better goalie. Unfortunately parents just get too emotional when it comes to the hockey and always seem to have to blame someone, not just except the fact that its hockey and players get hurt. Good luck to AV at state. I will be watching.

Re: Eagan vs refs

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:29 pm
by Titan2020
playerplayer1 wrote:
bobforhockey wrote:
Glovesreallysmell wrote:I went to the game today to check out AV and just to set the record straight the refs were terrible and did miss several serious calls. I would disagree with the previous comment assuming anything about the Eagan team. Looked liked a good bunch off hard working boys trying to win a chance to move on. Ref's just needed to make the right calls early.
Thank you for clarifying. I was not at AV game, so sounds like its more on the refs to keep control.
I am new to this forum but not new to AV hockey or Eagan hockey. I actually live on the border of both cities and am a fan of both teams and have no ties to either team, just like good hockey. I have seen all games between AV/Eagan this year and yesterdays game was no different than the others. Both teams played well and I didn't see the hits from behind these people are talking about. I was actually right next to the hit where the AV guy got hurt. Here's the problem the kid had that nobody is talking about. Both the AV and Eagan player were going for the puck and unfortunately for the AV guy he was near the boards but not against them. The Eagan player did give him a big hit, I will admit that but I didn't think it was from behind, it was from the side. The reason he got hurt was because he had room between him and the boards and when he was hit went into them really hard. It was scary but to stick up for the Eagan guy he was just playing passionate hockey and not intending for the kid to get hurt like he did. Let's remember something folks, the game of hockey is a violent sport. If you don't want your kid to have a chance of getting hurt buy him/her a set of golf clubs or a pair of running shoes. As far as the other comments about Eagan being a cheap team or whatever people are saying, I've followed them and AV all year and neither team is cheap. They are very even in talent but AV has a better goalie. Unfortunately parents just get too emotional when it comes to the hockey and always seem to have to blame someone, not just except the fact that its hockey and players get hurt. Good luck to AV at state. I will be watching.
Isn't that called boarding?? Turns out, it is still a penalty...malicious intent or not.

Re: Eagan vs refs

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:45 am
by playerplayer1
Titan2020 wrote:
playerplayer1 wrote:
bobforhockey wrote: Thank you for clarifying. I was not at AV game, so sounds like its more on the refs to keep control.
I am new to this forum but not new to AV hockey or Eagan hockey. I actually live on the border of both cities and am a fan of both teams and have no ties to either team, just like good hockey. I have seen all games between AV/Eagan this year and yesterdays game was no different than the others. Both teams played well and I didn't see the hits from behind these people are talking about. I was actually right next to the hit where the AV guy got hurt. Here's the problem the kid had that nobody is talking about. Both the AV and Eagan player were going for the puck and unfortunately for the AV guy he was near the boards but not against them. The Eagan player did give him a big hit, I will admit that but I didn't think it was from behind, it was from the side. The reason he got hurt was because he had room between him and the boards and when he was hit went into them really hard. It was scary but to stick up for the Eagan guy he was just playing passionate hockey and not intending for the kid to get hurt like he did. Let's remember something folks, the game of hockey is a violent sport. If you don't want your kid to have a chance of getting hurt buy him/her a set of golf clubs or a pair of running shoes. As far as the other comments about Eagan being a cheap team or whatever people are saying, I've followed them and AV all year and neither team is cheap. They are very even in talent but AV has a better goalie. Unfortunately parents just get too emotional when it comes to the hockey and always seem to have to blame someone, not just except the fact that its hockey and players get hurt. Good luck to AV at state. I will be watching.
Isn't that called boarding?? Turns out, it is still a penalty...malicious intent or not.
Boarding in ice hockey is a penalty called when an offending player violently pushes an opposing player into the boards of the hockey rink, when the player is facing the board OK, I'm not here to battle like most of you parents are. I am not a parent, I am a fan. But here is the definition of boarding, and if it was boarding why did his back hit into the boards and end up with a bruised lower back. Oh yeah, because it was a clean check! I'm rooting for AV in the state but can't stand people who complain about good hits just because a kid gets hurt!

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:21 am
by observer
It's only a penalty if the ref calls one.

I will add, however, that most (all?) of the VFW Bantam A games only use two refs which can lead to some missed calls.

Re: Eagan vs refs

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:22 pm
by Titan2020
playerplayer1 wrote:
Titan2020 wrote:
playerplayer1 wrote: I am new to this forum but not new to AV hockey or Eagan hockey. I actually live on the border of both cities and am a fan of both teams and have no ties to either team, just like good hockey. I have seen all games between AV/Eagan this year and yesterdays game was no different than the others. Both teams played well and I didn't see the hits from behind these people are talking about. I was actually right next to the hit where the AV guy got hurt. Here's the problem the kid had that nobody is talking about. Both the AV and Eagan player were going for the puck and unfortunately for the AV guy he was near the boards but not against them. The Eagan player did give him a big hit, I will admit that but I didn't think it was from behind, it was from the side. The reason he got hurt was because he had room between him and the boards and when he was hit went into them really hard. It was scary but to stick up for the Eagan guy he was just playing passionate hockey and not intending for the kid to get hurt like he did. Let's remember something folks, the game of hockey is a violent sport. If you don't want your kid to have a chance of getting hurt buy him/her a set of golf clubs or a pair of running shoes. As far as the other comments about Eagan being a cheap team or whatever people are saying, I've followed them and AV all year and neither team is cheap. They are very even in talent but AV has a better goalie. Unfortunately parents just get too emotional when it comes to the hockey and always seem to have to blame someone, not just except the fact that its hockey and players get hurt. Good luck to AV at state. I will be watching.
Isn't that called boarding?? Turns out, it is still a penalty...malicious intent or not.
Boarding in ice hockey is a penalty called when an offending player violently pushes an opposing player into the boards of the hockey rink, when the player is facing the board OK, I'm not here to battle like most of you parents are. I am not a parent, I am a fan. But here is the definition of boarding, and if it was boarding why did his back hit into the boards and end up with a bruised lower back. Oh yeah, because it was a clean check! I'm rooting for AV in the state but can't stand people who complain about good hits just because a kid gets hurt!


OK - #1 - player does not have to be facing the board...that would be checking from behind. #2 Your initial description indicates there was room between the player and the boards - this typically leads to a "Boarding" penalty. Just merely pointing out YOUR description in my initial post. I was not at the game.

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:22 pm
by sioux
So what are the match-ups for the VFW tournament.....?

And who is favored?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:25 pm
by Fire and Ice
www.vfw.state.mn.us/hockeyrules.pdf

The brackets are listed here.

Duluth East must be the favorite.

Moorhead v Alex

Duluth E v White Bear Lk

Jefferson v Bemidji

Brainerd v Lakeville South

Rochester v Eveleth

Duluth East favorite

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:49 pm
by wingman
Yup I would agree, but so was Edina......

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:54 pm
by Fire and Ice
Huh? Edina was the favorite to what? Put there stuff in the closet early. I think Duluth E made both State tourneys. I am saying they are the favorites I don't recall saying they are the State Champs.

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:32 am
by observer
Scores from VFW State this weekend?

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:58 pm
by D16Dad
3/27/09
Bemidji 6 - Bloomington Jefferson 2

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:32 pm
by JoltDelivered
Well, so much for the favorite:

White Bear 3
Duluth East 1