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hockeya1a wrote:So if no practice will there be refunds to the girls? is it fair that some get 4.5 more hours of ice time than the others?
and won't it be harder for some of the girls to play togather with limited practice.

Pretty sure, there won't be any refunds. I was curious what the information said about the practices and went to the Minnesota Hockey site: http://www.minnesotahockey.org/news/news.asp?ID=206. "The eight Festival teams have a maximum of 4.5 hours of practice ice that they may use at the coaches discretion".

No, it is not fair and pretty safe to write the teams that practice together should play better together and then their individual skills are likely better displayed, too. The players that are from the same HS teams would likely play better together due to their familiarity at least without practices so the individual HS representatives are at an additional disadvantage without team practices.

Sounds like Section 4 may have the model for other sections to follow. It would be great if the sections all used the same model and hopefully they will look at gaining greater consistency for future years. I am sure it all depends on whether the current system is identifying the players by the final phase that they are seeking whether they will revisit the tryout process.

Section 8 16's will not be having practices. But many are playing in the Warroad Hockeytown Classic between Section 8 A/AA on March 22, 23

Cowboy1 wrote:Section 8 16's will not be having practices. But many are playing in the Warroad Hockeytown Classic between Section 8 A/AA on March 22, 23

Section 2 will not have practices either. They used all 4.5 hours in tryouts and I believe the thought was that since the tryouts were so late and there were only 21 skaters and 2 goalies it was pretty much the team practicing. I don't have a problem with it.

Do they have any other sections teams posted yet?
I have seen the Section 6 names
but have not seen the rest.

They are all posted on the Minnesota Hockey Website. Click on Player programs and scroll down to the postings for 16s or 17s

Reviewing the Phase II Sectional rosters listed above versus last year a few observations at the U17/1992 level

Rachel Ramsey, Minnetonka - a U15 & U16 NDP Forward is a D in Section 2
Audrey Hanmer, Forest Lake - a U15 & U16 NDP Defender is a F in Section 7
Dani Williams, MN Thoroughbreds - a U16 NDP Forward is a D in Section 5
Catie Ladner, Chaska - a U16 NDP Defender is not listed on any team - not sure if she is injured?

joehockey wrote:Reviewing the Phase II Sectional rosters listed above versus last year a few observations at the U17/1992 level

Rachel Ramsey, Minnetonka - a U15 & U16 NDP Forward is a D in Section 2
Audrey Hanmer, Forest Lake - a U15 & U16 NDP Defender is a F in Section 7
Dani Williams, MN Thoroughbreds - a U16 NDP Forward is a D in Section 5
Catie Ladner, Chaska - a U16 NDP Defender is not listed on any team - not sure if she is injured?

Catie missed a lot of time this year! she is an awsome player so I hope she gets back to tiptop shape again soon.

Here is a quick sort of schools by Sections at the U17 - you will see some Sections must have been short as there are other players spotted in:
Sec 1
Roch Mayo 3
Owatona 3
Shattuck 3
Lakeville S 3
Albert Lea 2
Lakeville N 2
Winona 1
Northfield 1
Red Wing 1
Roch JM/Lordes 1
Sec 2
Edina 6
Minnetonka 5
Shakopee 3
New Prague 2
Eden Prairie 2
Prior Lake 1
Chaska 1
Sec 3
Eagan 4
Bloomington K 2
Windom 2
Eastview 2
Burnsville 2
Apple Valley 2
Park Cottage Grove 2
Rosemount 1
Woodbury 1
New Ulm 1
Mounds View 1
Sec 4
Stillwater 8
Hill Murray 3
Roseville 3
CDH 1
MN Thoroughbreds 1
Simley 1
WBL 1
NSP 1
Tartan 1
Sec 5
Blake 4
Champlin Park 3
Irondale 3
Andover 3
Breck 2
Centennial 2
Coon Rapids 1
Spring Lake Park 1
MN Thoroughbreds 1
Sec 6
Wayzata 5
BSM 4
Hopkins 3
N. Metro 2
Robinsdale Armstrong 2
Alexandria 2
Maple Grove 1
Fergus Falls 1
Sec 7
Duluth 3
Moose Lake 2
Proctor 2
GRG 2
St. Francis 2
Silver Bay 1
Hibbing 1
Princeton 1
Forest Lake 1
Rogers 1
Andover 1
Mahtomedi 1
N. Metro 1
CEC 1
Sec 8
Bemidji 4
Roseau 3
Lake of the Woods 2
Elk River 2
E. Grand Forks 1
Coon Rapids 1
WBL 1
St. Paul United 1
Mlps Novas 1
Buffalo 1
St. Cloud Apollo 1
Brainard 1
Sauk Rapids/Sartell 1

Here is Players by School at the U17 Level:
Stillwater 8
Edina 6
Minnetonka 5
Wayzata 5
Andover 4
Bemidji 4
Blake 4
BSM 4
Eagan 4
Champlin Park 3
Duluth 3
Hill Murray 3
Hopkins 3
Irondale 3
Lakeville S 3
N. Metro 3
Owatona 3
Roch Mayo 3
Roseau 3
Roseville 3
Shakopee 3
Shattuck 3
Albert Lea 2
Alexandria 2
Apple Valley 2
Bloomington K 2
Breck 2
Burnsville 2
Centennial 2
Coon Rapids 2
Eastview 2
Eden Prairie 2
Elk River 2
GRG 2
Lake of the Woods 2
Lakeville N 2
MN Thoroughbreds 2
Moose Lake 2
New Prague 2
Park Cottage Grove 2
Proctor 2
Robinsdale Armstrong 2
St. Francis 2
WBL 2
Windom 2
Brainard 1
Buffalo 1
CDH 1
CEC 1
Chaska 1
E. Grand Forks 1
Fergus Falls 1
Forest Lake 1
Hibbing 1
Mahtomedi 1
Maple Grove 1
Mlps Novas 1
Mounds View 1
New Ulm 1
Northfield 1
NSP 1
Princeton 1
Prior Lake 1
Red Wing 1
Roch JM/Lordes 1
Rogers 1
Rosemount 1
Sauk Rapids/Sartell 1
Silver Bay 1
Simley 1
Spring Lake Park 1
St. Cloud Apollo 1
St. Paul United 1
Tartan 1
Winona 1
Woodbury 1

So anyone have scores from the tournaments this weekend?

MNhockeylover wrote:So anyone have scores from the tournaments this weekend?

So far I know of only 2 scores

U16 Section 4 beat Section 2 - I wasn't sure about the score but it was something like 6-1 or 6-3.

U17 Section 2 beat Section 4 (8-3) The final score was surprising because looking at this game on paper I would have guessed that Section 4 would have beaten Section 2 handily

OntheEdge wrote:

MNhockeylover wrote:So anyone have scores from the tournaments this weekend?

So far I know of only 2 scores

U16 Section 4 beat Section 2 - I wasn't sure about the score but it was something like 6-1 or 6-3.

U17 Section 2 beat Section 4 (8-3) The final score was surprising because looking at this game on paper I would have guessed that Section 4 would have beaten Section 2 handily

So how close was the game in scoring chances or was it lopsided?

In the U17 Sec 4 was leading 2-1 after the first half.What was odd is Ramsey player forward in the first half,then played D in the second half.
I thought you could only play one position F or d not both.

Stillh2ofan wrote:In the U17 Sec 4 was leading 2-1 after the first half.What was odd is Ramsey player forward in the first half,then played D in the second half.
I thought you could only play one position F or d not both.

I don't know what the rules are but Section 2 had a poor turnout for Phase I. Only 21 skaters showed up for the tryout so they only had to cut 3 players. The decision was made to take the 18 best skaters regardless of position so they ended up with 8 D on the team (Hinueber and Thotland are D but are listed as F). We were told that each of the D will probably rotate to the F position during the tourney but all 8 are trying out as D. Of the 3 girls that were cut two were D.

Sec 4 U17 had a better day, 4-0 (Rolando started in G today) first half and 9-2 final over Sec 3. Today the same shots that didn't drop last night dropped today.

I think Sec 3 lost last night 6-5 in shoot out 1-1 at half and shots were 36-11 for Sec 3. So Sec 2 may be able to move to final.

Section 1 U17 won two on Saturday...

Beat Section 8 17's 9-1, great effort, strong D, good goaltending... only goal given up was a penalty shot...

Beat Section 7 17's 4-0, again good D, outshot Sec 7 38-18...

Girls have played well... nice to see from the southern girls...

Sec 4 16's beat sec 3 5-1 great effort by both teams. 1-1 after the first so sec 4 turned the scoring on in the second.

Not sure of all scores: 4a/aa over 2a/aa, 3a/aa over 6a/aa, 8a/aa over 1a/aa, 5a/aa over 7a/aa. Next round: 4a/aa over 3a/aa, 8a/aa over 5a/aa!!! 8a/aa was down 3-0 after the 1st period and then came back to beat 3a/aa 4-3 in OT!!!! Great to see this from the Northern Girls!!! They are a nice team!! 8a/aa meets 4a/aa in the championship today @ 2:15!!!

Letitice wrote:Not sure of all scores: 4a/aa over 2a/aa, 3a/aa over 6a/aa, 8a/aa over 1a/aa, 5a/aa over 7a/aa. Next round: 4a/aa over 3a/aa, 8a/aa over 5a/aa!!! 8a/aa was down 3-0 after the 1st period and then came back to beat 3a/aa 4-3 in OT!!!! Great to see this from the Northern Girls!!! They are a nice team!! 8a/aa meets 4a/aa in the championship today @ 2:15!!!

so is this the information for the 16's or 17's

hockeya1a wrote:

Letitice wrote:Not sure of all scores: 4a/aa over 2a/aa, 3a/aa over 6a/aa, 8a/aa over 1a/aa, 5a/aa over 7a/aa. Next round: 4a/aa over 3a/aa, 8a/aa over 5a/aa!!! 8a/aa was down 3-0 after the 1st period and then came back to beat 3a/aa 4-3 in OT!!!! Great to see this from the Northern Girls!!! They are a nice team!! 8a/aa meets 4a/aa in the championship today @ 2:15!!!

so is this the information for the 16's or 17's

Has to be 16. The 17s are as follows:

Friday
2 over 4
6 over 3
1 over 8
7 over 5

Saturday
Semis
2 over 6
1 over 7

Consolation Semis
4 over 3
5 over 8

Sunday
Championship 2 vs 1
3rd Place 6 vs 7
Consolation Championship 4 vs 5
7th Place game 3 vs 8

OntheEdge wrote:

hockeya1a wrote:

Letitice wrote:Not sure of all scores: 4a/aa over 2a/aa, 3a/aa over 6a/aa, 8a/aa over 1a/aa, 5a/aa over 7a/aa. Next round: 4a/aa over 3a/aa, 8a/aa over 5a/aa!!! 8a/aa was down 3-0 after the 1st period and then came back to beat 3a/aa 4-3 in OT!!!! Great to see this from the Northern Girls!!! They are a nice team!! 8a/aa meets 4a/aa in the championship today @ 2:15!!!

so is this the information for the 16's or 17's

Has to be 16. The 17s are as follows:

Friday
2 over 4
6 over 3
1 over 8
7 over 5

Saturday
Semis
2 over 6
1 over 7

Consolation Semis
4 over 3
5 over 8

Sunday
Championship 2 vs 1
3rd Place 6 vs 7
Consolation Championship 4 vs 5
7th Place game 3 vs 8

Section 2 beat Section 1 in the Championship game 5-0. It was a 2-0 game with a little more than 2 minutes left. 2 empty net goals and a buzzer beating shot finished off the scoring.

It is pretty quiet on here.
any thoughts on new or old blood out there? anyone stand out or is it the same kids again?
When will they be notified if they advance to the next round.

hockeya1a wrote:It is pretty quiet on here.
any thoughts on new or old blood out there? anyone stand out or is it the same kids again?
When will they be notified if they advance to the next round.

I think it was pretty much the same kids however I do think that the talent gap between the top and the middle is closing. There were lots of good players out there. I think the evaluators will have a tough time picking the "final 54".

Agree with OnEdge lots of good play - a few players had a great three games and stood out many others though had 1-2 good/great games. Lots of talent to pick final 54 from. Lots of "Baby Blue Jacket Evalutors" around the rink they put in long hours covering the three days - some very good hockey coaches acting in the role including a few college coaches from MN schools - I am sure they had to weigh through many reports and could come up with a number of scenarios.

The event appeared to attract only a limited number of D1 scouts - I saw 8: UM, UND, BSU, SCSU, MSU and from out east Providence, RPI, UCONN - were there others? Considering the number of top U16 and U17 players they can get a look at little surprised in low showing.....and continues to support D1 coaches are looking at talent more outside of MN and the view of MN talent is dropping compared to CDN, Hockey Academies......got a little feedback that many schools didn't come because they will be gone Wed-Sunday of this week scouting the USA Hockey National Tournament in Rochester, NY.

OntheEdge wrote:

hockeya1a wrote:It is pretty quiet on here.
any thoughts on new or old blood out there? anyone stand out or is it the same kids again?
When will they be notified if they advance to the next round.

I think it was pretty much the same kids however I do think that the talent gap between the top and the middle is closing. There were lots of good players out there. I think the evaluators will have a tough time picking the "final 54".

I have to agree, the hard part will be coming up
there are a lot of good players out there to choose from,
not a job i would want.
Good luck to all the girls! and enjoy every moment of it.

OntheEdge wrote:

OntheEdge wrote:

hockeya1a wrote:
so is this the information for the 16's or 17's

Has to be 16. The 17s are as follows:

Friday
2 over 4
6 over 3
1 over 8
7 over 5

Saturday
Semis
2 over 6
1 over 7

Consolation Semis
4 over 3
5 over 8

Sunday
Championship 2 vs 1
3rd Place 6 vs 7
Consolation Championship 4 vs 5
7th Place game 3 vs 8

Section 2 beat Section 1 in the Championship game 5-0. It was a 2-0 game with a little more than 2 minutes left. 2 empty net goals and a buzzer beating shot finished off the scoring.

Section 2 looked very strong all game!

Ramsey (Tonka) & Buie (Edina) stood out for Sec 2, and the goalies from both Sec 1 & Sec 2 played very well, lots of tremendous saves at both ends of the rink...
Section 1 played better in the Quarters & Semis, but still made it a very good game until the open netters...

I agree w/ OntheEdge's statement that the play of all the sections was very good, and we saw some great hockey from many, many young ladies over the weekend. It was fun to see Minnesota girls hockey at its best, good games, good teamwork, good individual efforts, really fun to see the improvement in girls hockey in Minnesota...

It was a very enjoyable weekend for me, as a Dad, and as a spectator of good hockey, but I do not envy the evaluators work ahead of them in picking 54 from those good groups... Good luck to all, have fun, enjoy the opportunity, after all, these kids are playing the best sport in the world, in the State of Hockey...