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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:09 pm
by steelheader
The parents voted to play A as well, not just the board and coaches.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:16 pm
by Cowboy
Honestly I am not that familiar with that group as I have older kids and most of my info is coming second hand. And perhaps more than I would like to admit, a lot of my feelings are sour grapes as this group would have made up one of the better high school teams Cambridge has had.
But that being said, I do know quite a few of the parents and it did get really old going to the arena and hearing the constant complaining by a few in particular. The others that I knew were great people as you say.
A few of the kids would have probably left no matter what. But I can't help but wonder if the constant losing doesn't take it's toll after a while. Both on kids and parents. Maybe the kids would have enjoyed a winning year playing B1 and had a little more confidence in their teammates? I don't know, I just question if the plan of playing A no matter what is reaping the rewards that we were promised.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:50 pm
by loveitorleaveit
Cowboy wrote:Yea, the board of directors have it right. Youth hockey is not about the kids and allowing them to have fun. It is about developing players for the high school program. That way instead of a team like Cambridge losing 8-0 against Duluth East in the section quarterfinals they will only lose 6-2 and it will all be worth it.
Because it is a proven fact that playing over your head and losing every game makes you a better player. I hear next year that CINB is planning on going with 3 A bantam teams and no B/C teams so even more kids can develop.
In fact the varsity program is trying to line up some scrimmages with WCHA teams so the h.s. players will learn to play at a faster pace and it will help them prepare for the rigors of playing in the Mississippi 8 conference.
Cowboy - socalized intelligence - just because you are born uneducated, doesn't mean you have to stay that way. Maybe getting out of the comfort zone isn't something you tend to do. Don't hold others back just because you couldn't reach the top.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:30 pm
by play4fun
steelheader wrote:The parents voted to play A as well, not just the board and coaches.
But should they have had a vote to begin with? Parents I mean.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:06 pm
by observer
Sounds like B1 would be a better experience for all players, coaches and parents. Frankly, better development (with the right coach) too.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:10 pm
by smalltownhockey21
I think there is a million opinions on the issue, but I think the only ones that matter are the opinions of those making the decisions. Even though they might be wrong...or right..it doesn't matter.
Hopefully the kids will have a fun year and the coaches will improve the players skills. I don't care if you have an awesome record, if the kids love playing, like the coaches, and are having fun at the end of the year thats all that matters.
Anyways it should still be interesting to see what happens with both the bantam teams and if they stay at the level they are at for next year.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:15 pm
by Daulton911
could be wrong, but I heard Centennial "A" Bantams were not very strong. down even from last years team.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:30 pm
by MrBoDangles
Cowboy wrote:Honestly I am not that familiar with that group as I have older kids and most of my info is coming second hand. And perhaps more than I would like to admit, a lot of my feelings are sour grapes as this group would have made up one of the better high school teams Cambridge has had.
But that being said, I do know quite a few of the parents and it did get really old going to the arena and hearing the constant complaining by a few in particular. The others that I knew were great people as you say.
A few of the kids would have probably left no matter what. But I can't help but wonder if the constant losing doesn't take it's toll after a while. Both on kids and parents. Maybe the kids would have enjoyed a winning year playing B1 and had a little more confidence in their teammates? I don't know, I just question if the plan of playing A no matter what is reaping the rewards that we were promised.
Like I said before a combined CINB HS team would have kept those kids.....What a team they would of had!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:40 pm
by MrBoDangles
loveitorleaveit wrote:Cowboy wrote:Yea, the board of directors have it right. Youth hockey is not about the kids and allowing them to have fun. It is about developing players for the high school program. That way instead of a team like Cambridge losing 8-0 against Duluth East in the section quarterfinals they will only lose 6-2 and it will all be worth it.
Because it is a proven fact that playing over your head and losing every game makes you a better player. I hear next year that CINB is planning on going with 3 A bantam teams and no B/C teams so even more kids can develop.
In fact the varsity program is trying to line up some scrimmages with WCHA teams so the h.s. players will learn to play at a faster pace and it will help them prepare for the rigors of playing in the Mississippi 8 conference.
Cowboy - socalized intelligence - just because you are born uneducated, doesn't mean you have to stay that way. Maybe getting out of the comfort zone isn't something you tend to do. Don't hold others back just because you couldn't reach the top.
Time to up your meds!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:48 pm
by DMom
Daulton911 wrote:could be wrong, but I heard Centennial "A" Bantams were not very strong. down even from last years team.
Alright, that'll be enough of the 'sticking to the thread topic' crap
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:22 pm
by MrBoDangles
DMom wrote:Daulton911 wrote:could be wrong, but I heard Centennial "A" Bantams were not very strong. down even from last years team.
Alright, that'll be enough of the 'sticking to the thread topic' crap
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:05 am
by Cowboy
If it is true that the parents voted to go A then I would like to retract everything I wrote in my rant.
Obviously it wasn't a unanimous vote as the people I talked to weren't too happy about it. But if they are in the minority they need to deal with it.
Parents definitely should have a say in what happens. They are the ones that are paying $1000 or more to have their kids play.
District 10 A Bantams
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:31 pm
by Sneakyfast99
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:02 pm
by loveitorleaveit
1. Anoka
2. Blaine
3. Cenntenial
4. Rogers
5. St.Cloud
6. Elk River
7. Champlin Park
8. Coon Rapids
9. Spring Lake Park
10. Princeton
11. Andover
12. CINB
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:09 pm
by BlackTape
loveitorleaveit wrote:1. Anoka
2. Blaine
3. Cenntenial
4. Rogers
5. St.Cloud
6. Elk River
7. Champlin Park
8. Coon Rapids
9. Spring Lake Park
10. Princeton
11. Andover
12. CINB
I can tell you are guessing here. Why don't you explain your picks here so we can see where you are coming from.
First Anoka will be .500 at best, Blaine is very weak this year (they lost their two best players to high school) and this is typically a down year for them anyways. Rogers had to bring peewees up to help their team, Centennial is decent, St. Cloud is decent, Coon Rapids is decent assuming they don't lose anyone to HS. Are you from Anoka?
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:32 pm
by blueliner5
loveitorleaveit wrote:1. Anoka
2. Blaine
3. Cenntenial
4. Rogers
5. St.Cloud
6. Elk River
7. Champlin Park
8. Coon Rapids
9. Spring Lake Park
10. Princeton
11. Andover
12. CINB
This should be interesting. You have 3 of the top 5 teams correct in my opinion. Anoka and Rogers need to be placed lower Elk River and Coon Rapids need to take there position
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:21 am
by MrBoDangles
loveitorleaveit wrote:1. Anoka
2. Blaine
3. Cenntenial
4. Rogers
5. St.Cloud
6. Elk River
7. Champlin Park
8. Coon Rapids
9. Spring Lake Park
10. Princeton
11. Andover
12. CINB
Is this the first year for a Princeton A bantam team? Any scores?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:32 am
by blueliner5
MaxSnatch wrote:blueliner5 wrote:MaxSnatch wrote:I heard last night that CR will lose their goaltender and 4-5 of their top skaters to HS. Looking at their HS team, these kids could be playing varsity by the start of the season......[/quote
Max... you might want to check back with your source/sources. A Bantam team will not be losing 4-5 skaters to the H.S. Varsity team
The Snatch has only been wrong one time and it eventually turned out that I was right.!.!.!.!.! Enjoy the next month and you may want to take in a B practice so you can take a look at some of your future A players
Max......Have you talked with your source lately? You might want to so you know exactly what is going on. I spoke with the REAL source over a week ago and it is not going to turn out like you hoped
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:21 am
by Chuck Norris Fan
1. Cenntenial
2. Elk River
3. Coon Rapids
4. St.Cloud
5. Blaine
6. Rogers
7. Champlin Park
8. Princeton
9. Anoka
10. Spring Lake Park
11. Andover
12. CINB
Obviously this is just a pre D10 season guess. I would say that the top 5 could be in any order in this season. I think that CR and STC need to keep their players to really be there. Otherwise it will be a two horse race.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:08 pm
by in2hockey
Your crazy if you think Andover will finish that low. I think it will come down to St. Cloud, Elk River and Andover. We'll see in February.[/img]
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:06 pm
by MaxSnatch
blueliner5 wrote:MaxSnatch wrote:blueliner5 wrote:
The Snatch has only been wrong one time and it eventually turned out that I was right.!.!.!.!.! Enjoy the next month and you may want to take in a B practice so you can take a look at some of your future A players
Max......Have you talked with your source lately? You might want to so you know exactly what is going on. I spoke with the REAL source over a week ago and it is not going to turn out like you hoped
BL5- Actually I haven't but you seem to be mighty close to this situation. What does your kid think will happen to his team?? What has he heard in the locker room??
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:10 am
by blueliner5
MaxSnatch wrote:blueliner5 wrote:MaxSnatch wrote:
Max......Have you talked with your source lately? You might want to so you know exactly what is going on. I spoke with the REAL source over a week ago and it is not going to turn out like you hoped
BL5- Actually I haven't but you seem to be mighty close to this situation. What does your kid think will happen to his team?? What has he heard in the locker room??
I don't have a child playing Association hockey any longer, but I still go to the rink to watch some good games.
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:59 pm
by youngbloodjr3
Why do you think Andover and Coon Rapids will finish so low?
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:27 am
by HockeyGuy81
youngbloodjr3 wrote:Why do you think Andover and Coon Rapids will finish so low?
Because they do not think they will be good. Why else would they rank them that low???
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:22 am
by loveitorleaveit
Chuck Norris Fan wrote:1. Cenntenial
2. Elk River
3. Coon Rapids
4. St.Cloud
5. Blaine
6. Rogers
7. Champlin Park
8. Princeton
9. Anoka
10. Spring Lake Park
11. Andover
12. CINB
Obviously this is just a pre D10 season guess. I would say that the top 5 could be in any order in this season. I think that CR and STC need to keep their players to really be there. Otherwise it will be a two horse race.
Andover is way too low, they have already beat teams like south st paul 6-4 and forest lake 7-2. Not bad teams.
Coon Rapids is ranked way too high, they did beat up Spring Lake Park 11-2. But how can you give up 2 goals against a team like that be ranked higher than 5?