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Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:30 am**

West and Lourdes have similar stories.
West with new coaching took a little while to get going
Lourdes with very young squad took time to figure it out
Both teams looking good right now, wouldn't want to see West in the first two rounds

Lourdes really has to be the number one seed
Beat Faribault 6-3
Beat and tied New Prague
Beat AL
Beat West
Most were close games, but they won!
Yes, they lost to Northfield and Red Wing but that was ages ago

Politics is politics, but on ice it's obvious

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:42 am**

nickel slots wrote:RW losing to Shakopee moves them down another notch and West beating AL moves them up one... maybe even 2 depending on how the coaches see it.

My best guess if seeding were today...
1-2 Faribault/Lourdes
3 New Prague
4-5 West/AL
6 Red Wing
7 Northfield
8 East
9-12 LeCrescent, Austin, Waseca, LS-SP

I agree with your rankings. If they come out like this there should be another AL and West game, it just depends upon whose building.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:17 am**

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On paper Lourdes has the edge in goaltending which should make for another great section matchup should they meet.[/quote]

What it looks like on followthepuck. Faribaults goalie has the second best stats in the section. So we will just have to see how the goalies show up.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:35 pm**

bobforhockey wrote:West and Lourdes have similar stories.
West with new coaching took a little while to get going
Lourdes with very young squad took time to figure it out
Both teams looking good right now, wouldn't want to see West in the first two rounds

Lourdes really has to be the number one seed
Beat Faribault 6-3
Beat and tied New Prague
Beat AL
Beat West
Most were close games, but they won!
Yes, they lost to Northfield and Red Wing but that was ages ago

Politics is politics, but on ice it's obvious

Even though Lourdes lost to Northfield and Red Wing "ages" ago, it still counts and will be weighed the same as if they lost to them last week. That being said...

1. Lourdes
2. Faribault
3. New Prague
4. Albert Lea
5. Mankato West
6. Red Wing
7. Northfield

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:44 pm**

you still rank albert lea over west even with their lost to them a couple of nights ago (6-2)?

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:36 pm**

Lourdes and Faribault can both argue for a #1 seed. After all, Lourdes beat Faribault 6-3, but Lourdes also has more section losses overall. Faribault has played very well lately, and if you take away the two day stretch where they lost to both AL and Lourdes, the Falcons haven't lost this year.

Maybe . . .

1. Lourdes
2. Faribault
3. New Prague

4-6 Red Wing, Albert Lea, West

7. Northfield
8. East
9. Waseca
10. Austin
11. St. Peter
12. La Crescent

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Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:38 pm**

scarlethockey33 wrote:you still rank albert lea over west even with their lost to them a couple of nights ago (6-2)?

Yes I would, for a couple of reasons. Albert Lea and West split on the year. AL has beaten every top team in the section except Lourdes and New Prague, losing by one goal to both of those teams. They also have a signature win over Faribault, something West does not have. In general, people put too much stock, when seeding teams, in late season wins. Victories in December and January count the same as a victory in February.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:40 pm**

OU812 wrote:Lourdes and Faribault can both argue for a #1 seed. After all, Lourdes beat Faribault 6-3, but Lourdes also has more section losses overall. Faribault has played very well lately, and if you take away the two day stretch where they lost to both AL and Lourdes, the Falcons haven't lost this year.

Maybe . . .

1. Lourdes
2. Faribault
3. New Prague

4-6 Red Wing, Albert Lea, West

7. Northfield
8. East
9. Waseca
10. Austin
11. St. Peter
12. La Crescent

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im sorry to say but you can't just take out a 2 game stretch where a team had a let down and loss two games. those go into the seedings. haha. But i think that you could argue New Prague to #2 seed, with them playing so hot lately. they have the same amount of losses to Faribault and a loss to them in the beginning of the year. But there last 2 losses have been to Holy Angels.
so maybee..?

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:56 pm**

JRdeeez wrote:
scarlethockey33 wrote:you still rank albert lea over west even with their lost to them a couple of nights ago (6-2)?
Yes I would, for a couple of reasons. Albert Lea and West split on the year. AL has beaten every top team in the section except Lourdes and New Prague, losing by one goal to both of those teams. They also have a signature win over Faribault, something West does not have. In general, people put too much stock, when seeding teams, in late season wins. Victories in December and January count the same as a victory in February.

Look at it this way. West beats Albert Lea 6-2 a week before section playoffs, and previously in the year, Albert Lea eeked out an overtime win against the Scarlets. Head-to-Head the advantage almost has to go to West.

Who knows what the coaches will decide, but come sunday afternoon, it's going to be awfully interesting to see how this thing goes.

What is everyone's predicitons for how this section will be seeded?

IMHO,

1. Lourdes
2. Faribault
3. New Prague
4. Mankato West
5. Albert Lea
6. Red Wing
7. Northfield
8. Mankato East
9. Waseca
10. Austin
11. Saint Peter
12. La Crescent

We know that 1-3 will consist of those teams, and 4-6 will also consist of those teams, it's just a matter of how it all shakes out I suppose.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:03 pm**

GopherPuck15 wrote:
JRdeeez wrote:
scarlethockey33 wrote:you still rank albert lea over west even with their lost to them a couple of nights ago (6-2)?
Yes I would, for a couple of reasons. Albert Lea and West split on the year. AL has beaten every top team in the section except Lourdes and New Prague, losing by one goal to both of those teams. They also have a signature win over Faribault, something West does not have. In general, people put too much stock, when seeding teams, in late season wins. Victories in December and January count the same as a victory in February.
Look at it this way. West beats Albert Lea 6-2 a week before section playoffs, and previously in the year, Albert Lea eeked out an overtime win against the Scarlets. Head-to-Head the advantage almost has to go to West.

Who knows what the coaches will decide, but come sunday afternoon, it's going to be awfully interesting to see how this thing goes.

What is everyone's predicitons for how this section will be seeded?

IMHO,

1. Lourdes
2. Faribault
3. New Prague
4. Mankato West
5. Albert Lea
6. Red Wing
7. Northfield
8. Mankato East
9. Waseca
10. Austin
11. Saint Peter
12. La Crescent

We know that 1-3 will consist of those teams, and 4-6 will also consist of those teams, it's just a matter of how it all shakes out I suppose.

Faribault vs. Lourdes would be a great section championship game at the Rec. I agree with those seedings.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:25 pm**

clutterbuck22 wrote:
GopherPuck15 wrote:
JRdeeez wrote: Yes I would, for a couple of reasons. Albert Lea and West split on the year. AL has beaten every top team in the section except Lourdes and New Prague, losing by one goal to both of those teams. They also have a signature win over Faribault, something West does not have. In general, people put too much stock, when seeding teams, in late season wins. Victories in December and January count the same as a victory in February.
Look at it this way. West beats Albert Lea 6-2 a week before section playoffs, and previously in the year, Albert Lea eeked out an overtime win against the Scarlets. Head-to-Head the advantage almost has to go to West.

Who knows what the coaches will decide, but come sunday afternoon, it's going to be awfully interesting to see how this thing goes.

What is everyone's predicitons for how this section will be seeded?

IMHO,

1. Lourdes
2. Faribault
3. New Prague
4. Mankato West
5. Albert Lea
6. Red Wing
7. Northfield
8. Mankato East
9. Waseca
10. Austin
11. Saint Peter
12. La Crescent

We know that 1-3 will consist of those teams, and 4-6 will also consist of those teams, it's just a matter of how it all shakes out I suppose.
Faribault vs. Lourdes would be a great section championship game at the Rec. I agree with those seedings.

That would be a phenomenal game, but I just have a gut feeling you will see West or Albert Lea upset Rochester Lourdes. I feel like Lourdes is a year away of dominating this section tournament once again.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:35 pm**

This is going to be one of the most fun and exciting section tournaments of all time! It's going to be totally up for grabs. Man, I can't wait

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:03 pm**

PoNd HocKey ChAmP67 wrote:This is going to be one of the most fun and exciting section tournaments of all time! It's going to be totally up for grabs. Man, I can't wait

Who do you have in your final four? Who wins? Man it sure is going to be one of the best section 1A years for tournament competitiveness!

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:03 am**

Final Four in no particular order...
Lourdes, New Prague, Faribault, Albert Lea

Winner - New Prague

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:33 am**

The biggest thing AL has over West in regards to seeding is they have beaten Faribault, Red Wing, West and Northfield. Am I saying AL is better than West, no, but I'm saying over the course of the entire season AL has built a better resume than West has, so therefore they will more than likely get a higher seed. West seems to be playing very well right now, but that can change overnight. One week ago, people were saying AL was the hottest team. Then they go out and lose to West and Mayo. Point is you have to look at the context of the entire season rather than get too caught up in who the "hot" team currently is.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:06 am**

JRdeeez wrote:The biggest thing AL has over West in regards to seeding is they have beaten Faribault, Red Wing, West and Northfield. Am I saying AL is better than West, no, but I'm saying over the course of the entire season AL has built a better resume than West has, so therefore they will more than likely get a higher seed. West seems to be playing very well right now, but that can change overnight. One week ago, people were saying AL was the hottest team. Then they go out and lose to West and Mayo. Point is you have to look at the context of the entire season rather than get too caught up in who the "hot" team currently is.

The formatting is bad sorry

West and Albert Lea 2009-2010 Resumes…… Who deserves #4 seed??

MW AL
Waseca W7-3 W 4-3 OT
Northfield W3-0 W5-2
New Prague L2-1 L 5-4
Roch Lourdes L3-2 L 4-3
Faribault L5-1 W 6-4
Mankato East 2W’s W10-1
Austin 2W’s playing 2-18
Red Wing X W5-2

MW vs Al
Game 1 AL wins at home in OT Jan 14th
Game 2 MW wins at home 6-2 Feb 15th

Things look to be even except for two games Waseca and Faribault. It is funny how people always remember the good, beating Faribault. But they forget the negative, beating Waseca in ot. In my mind the Waseca and Faribault games wash each other out and you go head to head.

The above says one thing, the 4th seed belongs to West……………

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:25 am**

We'll see...but that Faribault win is a big one, and as ugly as it was, they still won the Waseca game. A win is a win is a win as they say. They also have another good section victory over Red Wing. It will be close, but I think when it comes down to it, more coaches will put AL ahead...just my hunch.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:51 am**

I would like to see MW play Red Wing in future years. MW played 3 games this year that were not section, conferece or tour. games.

They were
Holy Family-quality app.
Prior Lake-quality app.
Portage Coll. Instut. (I know this game has different meaning) If they don't come back, this is the game that should be filled with Red Wing

I'm guessing the Red Wing coaches have not seen MW play. They are going to seed off scores only. (will that help or hurt??)

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:51 pm**

Quality wins give Albert Lea the edge for the 4 seed. West will be the 5 seed after Red Wind goes out and fails to get by a below average Shakopee team. The West and Albert Lea quarter final match up should be a good one.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:01 pm**

I have seen all these teams in this section play this year, and I can tell you that this section has the least amount of overall talent in it than it has had in the past 5 years, and this years top one or two seeded teams weather it be Lourdes or Faribault would not have even been seeded in the top five of this section say in the last three years, come playoff time, and I am not saying this to be a jerk, its just a the plain simple truth, there are not (overall) the same amount of quality skaters (goal scorers) or net minders as in years past, in the past three years Section 1A had 5 sometimes 6 teams rated by Lets Play Hockey in the top 20 in the state, its not even close this year, and it shows, the quality of play is way down thus the quality level of the teams are way down, this being said does not mean it wont be a good and fun section tournament to watch, it should be very competitive, just not quite the level of talent of teams as in the past three to five previous seasons

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:01 pm**

tnt wrote:I have seen all these teams in this section play this year, and I can tell you that this section has the least amount of overall talent in it than it has had in the past 5 years, and this years top one or two seeded teams weather it be Lourdes or Faribault would not have even been seeded in the top five of this section say in the last three years, come playoff time, and I am not saying this to be a jerk, its just a the plain simple truth, there are not (overall) the same amount of quality skaters (goal scorers) or net minders as in years past, in the past three years Section 1A had 5 sometimes 6 teams rated by Lets Play Hockey in the top 20 in the state, its not even close this year, and it shows, the quality of play is way down thus the quality level of the teams are way down, this being said does not mean it wont be a good and fun section tournament to watch, it should be very competitive, just not quite the level of talent of teams as in the past three to five previous seasons

I think you are right when you say the talent is down, but i dont believe it is the talent of the teams, but individual players. This section took a hit losing many talented players last year, but from what i have seen from this section the team play seems to be much better. I think the teams have been playing better with what they have, and for some of these teams to even be in the top 20 of LPH's rankings says a lot about how well they are working as a team.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:06 pm**

Rushin11 wrote:
tnt wrote:I have seen all these teams in this section play this year, and I can tell you that this section has the least amount of overall talent in it than it has had in the past 5 years, and this years top one or two seeded teams weather it be Lourdes or Faribault would not have even been seeded in the top five of this section say in the last three years, come playoff time, and I am not saying this to be a jerk, its just a the plain simple truth, there are not (overall) the same amount of quality skaters (goal scorers) or net minders as in years past, in the past three years Section 1A had 5 sometimes 6 teams rated by Lets Play Hockey in the top 20 in the state, its not even close this year, and it shows, the quality of play is way down thus the quality level of the teams are way down, this being said does not mean it wont be a good and fun section tournament to watch, it should be very competitive, just not quite the level of talent of teams as in the past three to five previous seasons
I agree, the teams are better, individual talent is down.

You don't have as many skilled players like Voight, Breuer, Walton, Leiverman, Litchfield, Hagers that control a game.

I think you are right when you say the talent is down, but i dont believe it is the talent of the teams, but individual players. This section took a hit losing many talented players last year, but from what i have seen from this section the team play seems to be much better. I think the teams have been playing better with what they have, and for some of these teams to even be in the top 20 of LPH's rankings says a lot about how well they are working as a team.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:09 pm**

Rushin11 wrote:
tnt wrote:I have seen all these teams in this section play this year, and I can tell you that this section has the least amount of overall talent in it than it has had in the past 5 years, and this years top one or two seeded teams weather it be Lourdes or Faribault would not have even been seeded in the top five of this section say in the last three years, come playoff time, and I am not saying this to be a jerk, its just a the plain simple truth, there are not (overall) the same amount of quality skaters (goal scorers) or net minders as in years past, in the past three years Section 1A had 5 sometimes 6 teams rated by Lets Play Hockey in the top 20 in the state, its not even close this year, and it shows, the quality of play is way down thus the quality level of the teams are way down, this being said does not mean it wont be a good and fun section tournament to watch, it should be very competitive, just not quite the level of talent of teams as in the past three to five previous seasons
I think you are right when you say the talent is down, but i dont believe it is the talent of the teams, but individual players. This section took a hit losing many talented players last year, but from what i have seen from this section the team play seems to be much better. I think the teams have been playing better with what they have, and for some of these teams to even be in the top 20 of LPH's rankings says a lot about how well they are working as a team.

I agree, the teams are better, individual talent is down.

You don't have as many skilled players like Voight, Breuer, Walton, Leiverman, Litchfield, Hagers that control a game.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:01 pm**

the teams are not better this year, in years past many more top rated teams in section 1A, how can you possibly say that there are better teams this year when only Lourdes and Falcons are in the top 20, that makes no sense at all

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:46 pm**

tnt wrote:the teams are not better this year, in years past many more top rated teams in section 1A, how can you possibly say that there are better teams this year when only Lourdes and Falcons are in the top 20, that makes no sense at all

Not sure what rankings you are using, but New Prague is ranked 13th one spot ahead of Faribault and one spot behind Lourdes according to FollowThePuck.com.

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