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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:13 pm
by nickmon3
mnhockeynemn wrote:dirtracing17 wrote:i thought the falls were gonna beat hibbing last year in the semi? nobody has told me why this is different except "there gonna loose"
Loose and Lose are two very different words
When it comes to the state hockey tournament I always try to root for the 7A and 7AA teams. I will agree on this the past two times Virginia/MIB went to state including last year was pretty hard to watch, not sure if it was just unexperience because it was only there 2nd state trip ever. Hibbing has went to state quite a few times in the past few years and has proven to do well. Int'l Falls has also done well when making it, although they haven't won the state section champions since 02-03, they did do good there, and had a great team in 2003 and the past few years. It makes it very hard though when you teams teams constantly switch sections like Hermantown, Duluth Marshall, Central, Denfeld, Proctor Etc. What I am asking is that we try and set aside the drama and bring some good sportsmanship in the games. I wouldn't count the Falls out as you say, just like I wouldn't call Marshall out yet despite their 7-2 loss to Virginia, Everyone knows in sections anything can happen. I still say all top 4 teams have a good chance at state and none should be counted out as this point.
If the jackets play the way they did against virginia and hermantown chances are they will end up going to state. But ifalls is not an easy team to beat. Hibbing has a history of winning at the IRA, and they have a history of losing at the DECC. I think hibbing should beat the falls, as long as BOTH teams play fair and the reffing is decent. Anything could happen at section finals.
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:21 pm
by bronx18
I beleve that any team can win come playoff time, it's going to be the team with the better conditioning, and the will to win that will come out on top, which could be any team in the top 5 in this section.
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:22 pm
by bronx18
Does anyone have scores from the play in games yet?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:15 pm
by ryno44
pretty soon Rapids will be 7 SINGLE A or maybe move into the section with Warroad. I have a feeling with them loosing in the quarterfinals, they will move down. Probably Cloquet will either move to 5A or 7A. These are just my thoughts.
Its getting harder to compete with the cities teams....
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:27 pm
by gophers101
ryno44 wrote:pretty soon Rapids will be 7 SINGLE A or maybe move into the section with Warroad. I have a feeling with them loosing in the quarterfinals, they will move down. Probably Cloquet will either move to 5A or 7A. These are just my thoughts.
Its getting harder to compete with the cities teams....
Switching from AA to A really depends on class size. I'm pretty sure there's a standard number that if you have more kids than that number you must be AA, but don't quote me on that as im not positive. I don't think you can change classes for the sake of changing because of a couple of rough years. I don't anticipate rapids dropping classes.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:30 pm
by northhockey1994
goingbardown13 wrote:ryno44 wrote:PuckRanger wrote:
The semifinal game in Hibbing will be in the afternoon. The game Hibbing plays in will be at night in Grand Rapids (assuming they win against Eveleth). It is set up this way to prevent Hibbing from having home ice advantage.
On a related note, I wish they would move the game out of Grand Rapids to a more central location. Of 10 teams in the section, only Greenway is within 30 miles of the arena. Some teams would have hauls of over two hours if they made it to this game. Hopefully they move it to Virginia after they renovate the arena there... or just move it to the Hippodrome in Eveleth. That would reduce travel to a maximum of about 1 hour 45 minutes for the farthest teams (Two Harbors and I Falls). The rest would be within an hour - or at least close to it.
Travel times to Grand Rapids (estimated):
Greenway ~15 minutes
Hibbing ~45 minutes
Virginia ~1 hour, 10 minutes
Eveleth ~1 hour, 15 minutes
Duluth Central ~1 hour, 45 minutes
Duluth Marshall ~1 hour, 45 minutes
Ely ~2 hours, 20 minutes
Two Harbors ~2 hours, 30 minutes
International Falls ~2 hours, 30 minutes
Silver Bay ~3 hours
there is no other arena that has the seats to hold the amount of people for a semi game other than rapids.
I really wish one of the semi games would be in the falls. Then the other teams would know what its like for the falls to have to travel and the arena holds plenty of seats
Even if the game was in the falls, they wouldnt play there?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:33 pm
by ryno44
northhockey1994 wrote:goingbardown13 wrote:ryno44 wrote:
there is no other arena that has the seats to hold the amount of people for a semi game other than rapids.
I really wish one of the semi games would be in the falls. Then the other teams would know what its like for the falls to have to travel and the arena holds plenty of seats
Even if the game was in the falls, they wouldnt play there?
why should there be a playoff games up there. The majority of the teams are from the range. Who cares if the falls have to travel, thats there problem...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:34 pm
by east hockey
gophers101 wrote:ryno44 wrote:pretty soon Rapids will be 7 SINGLE A or maybe move into the section with Warroad. I have a feeling with them loosing in the quarterfinals, they will move down. Probably Cloquet will either move to 5A or 7A. These are just my thoughts.
Its getting harder to compete with the cities teams....
Switching from AA to A really depends on class size. I'm pretty sure there's a standard number that if you have more kids than that number you must be AA, but don't quote me on that as im not positive. I don't think you can change classes for the sake of changing because of a couple of rough years. I don't anticipate rapids dropping classes.
Rapids and Cloquet both are Class A size but opt up. I don't see either of them dropping down in the immediate future. Too much pride in both towns.
Of course, I said that about Hibbing too, so....
Lee
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:35 pm
by elliott70
gophers101 wrote:ryno44 wrote:pretty soon Rapids will be 7 SINGLE A or maybe move into the section with Warroad. I have a feeling with them loosing in the quarterfinals, they will move down. Probably Cloquet will either move to 5A or 7A. These are just my thoughts.
Its getting harder to compete with the cities teams....
Switching from AA to A really depends on class size. I'm pretty sure there's a standard number that if you have more kids than that number you must be AA, but don't quote me on that as im not positive. I don't think you can change classes for the sake of changing because of a couple of rough years. I don't anticipate rapids dropping classes.
Grand Rapids is Class A for hockey based on high school populaiton.
Every four years, they have made the election to play in the Class AA play-offs.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:37 pm
by elliott70
Grand Rapids school population for measuring class participation is 978.
Well below the 1342 cut-off for AA hockey schools.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:39 pm
by elliott70
Intl Falls to Grand Rapids is 120 miles.
If you can avoid the deer and the cops it should take you 1 hr and 45 minutes not 2 1/2 hours.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:42 pm
by elliott70
east hockey wrote:gophers101 wrote:ryno44 wrote:pretty soon Rapids will be 7 SINGLE A or maybe move into the section with Warroad. I have a feeling with them loosing in the quarterfinals, they will move down. Probably Cloquet will either move to 5A or 7A. These are just my thoughts.
Its getting harder to compete with the cities teams....
Switching from AA to A really depends on class size. I'm pretty sure there's a standard number that if you have more kids than that number you must be AA, but don't quote me on that as im not positive. I don't think you can change classes for the sake of changing because of a couple of rough years. I don't anticipate rapids dropping classes.
Rapids and Cloquet both are Class A size but opt up. I don't see either of them dropping down in the immediate future. Too much pride in both towns.
Of course, I said that about Hibbing too, so....
Lee
Duluth East = 1205 class A opting up....
Moorhead and Brainerd are the only two outstate northern schools that are AA.
St Cloud is neither outstate or northern.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:42 pm
by ryno44
east hockey wrote:gophers101 wrote:ryno44 wrote:pretty soon Rapids will be 7 SINGLE A or maybe move into the section with Warroad. I have a feeling with them loosing in the quarterfinals, they will move down. Probably Cloquet will either move to 5A or 7A. These are just my thoughts.
Its getting harder to compete with the cities teams....
Switching from AA to A really depends on class size. I'm pretty sure there's a standard number that if you have more kids than that number you must be AA, but don't quote me on that as im not positive. I don't think you can change classes for the sake of changing because of a couple of rough years. I don't anticipate rapids dropping classes.
Rapids and Cloquet both are Class A size but opt up. I don't see either of them dropping down in the immediate future. Too much pride in both towns.
Of course, I said that about Hibbing too, so....
Lee
well Hibbing just isn't as good as they used to be. I heard Rapids Bantam As are one the best teams ever so they probably won't move down, but Cloquet, they seem to be having a hard time with AA as of late.... who knows but i see both schools moving down sometime.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:44 pm
by elliott70
Cloquet's peewees and bantams are pretty good, I dont think they will change.
East Grand Forks has a strong youth program right now, they could easily compete with Roseau, Moorhead, Brainerd, St Cloud Tech (the top 4 in 8AA
).
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:48 pm
by PhilRudd
elliott70 wrote:Cloquet's peewees and bantams are pretty good, I dont think they will change.
East Grand Forks has a strong youth program right now, they could easily compete with Roseau, Moorhead, Brainerd, St Cloud Tech (the top 4 in 8AA
).
You serious? They have a hard time competing in 8A! Good luck to them with the big boys.
PR
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:59 pm
by elliott70
PhilRudd wrote:elliott70 wrote:Cloquet's peewees and bantams are pretty good, I dont think they will change.
East Grand Forks has a strong youth program right now, they could easily compete with Roseau, Moorhead, Brainerd, St Cloud Tech (the top 4 in 8AA
).
You serious? They have a hard time competing in 8A! Good luck to them with the big boys.
PR
Read it again.
Their bantam and peewee A teams this year have handled all the teams I mentioned. And the squirt a & b are good also.
Their B level programs are dominant against those teams also.
No one in section 8A will touch them in the 2012 to 2015 seasons.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:04 pm
by PhilRudd
elliott70 wrote:PhilRudd wrote:elliott70 wrote:Cloquet's peewees and bantams are pretty good, I dont think they will change.
East Grand Forks has a strong youth program right now, they could easily compete with Roseau, Moorhead, Brainerd, St Cloud Tech (the top 4 in 8AA
).
You serious? They have a hard time competing in 8A! Good luck to them with the big boys.
PR
Read it again.
Their bantam and peewee A teams this year have handled all the teams I mentioned. And the squirt a & b are good also.
There B level programs are dominant agaisnt those teams also.
No one in section 8A will touch them in the 2012 to 2015 seasons.
Is it there or their? Hold your horses, boss. The powers in Hockey Town may very well sign some of those youth players to a contract to play for the Warrior varsity so don't be so sure the little Green Wave pee wee and bantams will grow up to be Varsity Green Wavers. Time will tell, but I will be your prediction will miss the mark.
PR
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:10 pm
by elliott70
PhilRudd wrote:elliott70 wrote:PhilRudd wrote:
You serious? They have a hard time competing in 8A! Good luck to them with the big boys.
PR
Read it again.
Their bantam and peewee A teams this year have handled all the teams I mentioned. And the squirt a & b are good also.
Their B level programs are dominant agaisnt those teams also.
No one in section 8A will touch them in the 2012 to 2015 seasons.
Is it there or their? Hold your horses, boss. The powers in Hockey Town may very well sign some of those youth players to a contract to play for the Warrior varsity so don't be so sure the little Green Wave pee wee and bantams will grow up to be Varsity Green Wavers. Time will tell, but I will be your prediction will miss the mark.
PR
I'll take that be(t).
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:11 pm
by PhilRudd
You're a funny man. Do you have the $$ to put where your mouth is? What is your hockey background?
PR
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:15 pm
by sinbin006
PhilRudd wrote:You're a funny man. Do you have the $$ to put where your mouth is? What is your hockey background?
PR
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:15 pm
by TuckerMax93
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:16 pm
by east hockey
PhilRudd wrote:You're a funny man. Do you have the $$ to put where your mouth is? What is your hockey background?
PR
This looks familiar. Elliott, didn't someone else once question your hockey background or knowledge?
Lee
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:18 pm
by PhilRudd
Shouldn't you be out getting tuckermax drunk or vomiting on some poor girl. Nice choice of names
. What do you know about 7A hockey?
PR
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:21 pm
by TuckerMax93
PhilRudd wrote:
Shouldn't you be out getting tuckermax drunk or vomiting on some poor girl. Nice choice of names
. What do you know about 7A hockey?
PR
I'm Elliott's understudy.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:23 pm
by PhilRudd
TuckerMax93 wrote:PhilRudd wrote:
Shouldn't you be out getting tuckermax drunk or vomiting on some poor girl. Nice choice of names
. What do you know about 7A hockey?
PR
I'm Elliott's understudy.
You braggin' or complainin'??
PR
