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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:35 pm
by DubCHAGuy
TheSiouxSuck wrote:The Next One wrote:Does anybody have crowley's stats? I know those teams were loaded, but what was his won-loss record? I go back to the late 80's and yes we have had some phenomnal players, but to me none stand out as much as Mike Crowley did. The guy was in complete control of every game. Without him maybe Moorhead wins 2 or 3 state championships.
If I recall he had a team leading 67 points when Jefferson went 28-0 in 93. I think during his HS career his team went like 79-3-1 or something like that?
From the 00's probably have to consider TJ Oshie, Blake Wheeler, Matt Niskanen, Alex Stalock, Jake Gardiner, Brian Lee, Paul Martin, Keith Ballard, Alex Goligoski, and finally, just because I feel cheated for not including him, Zach Parise (yes I'm aware he played at Shattuck).
As HS players I would have to add Gino Guyer to the list from the 2000's, and i'm sure i'm in the minority but I would also have Aaron Ness towards the top of the list.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:38 am
by warriors41
DubCHAGuy wrote:TheSiouxSuck wrote:The Next One wrote:Does anybody have crowley's stats? I know those teams were loaded, but what was his won-loss record? I go back to the late 80's and yes we have had some phenomnal players, but to me none stand out as much as Mike Crowley did. The guy was in complete control of every game. Without him maybe Moorhead wins 2 or 3 state championships.
If I recall he had a team leading 67 points when Jefferson went 28-0 in 93. I think during his HS career his team went like 79-3-1 or something like that?
From the 00's probably have to consider TJ Oshie, Blake Wheeler, Matt Niskanen, Alex Stalock, Jake Gardiner, Brian Lee, Paul Martin, Keith Ballard, Alex Goligoski, and finally, just because I feel cheated for not including him, Zach Parise (yes I'm aware he played at Shattuck).
As HS players I would have to add Gino Guyer to the list from the 2000's, and i'm sure i'm in the minority but I would also have Aaron Ness towards the top of the list.
The problem that I have with having Ness on the list was that he was only elite for two years, his sophomore year when Roso won state and his senior year. His freshman year he was also very good and you could tell he would be special but with him accelerating to get to the Gophers earlier we missed a yeah of watching him play high school puck. Had he not left early than I have no doubt that he would be right up there with Oshie. He may not be a great college player right now or be a great pro, but in high school he was truly dominant.
Anyway, his name has come up a few times but for the 60's I would have to say Henry Boucha
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:08 am
by WB6162
mulefarm wrote:Housley goes from SSP to Buffalo after hs and is not the player of his decade? He is easly the best hs player of all time and best Mn player of all time.
I would take Broten over Housley as best ever. Broten is a winner, Housley is a loser. Although a great player technically, his teams never win anything.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:28 am
by DubCHAGuy
WB6162 wrote:mulefarm wrote:Housley goes from SSP to Buffalo after hs and is not the player of his decade? He is easly the best hs player of all time and best Mn player of all time.
I would take Broten over Housley as best ever. Broten is a winner, Housley is a loser. Although a great player technically, his teams never win anything.
Well if we are just talking about them as HS Players here, neither won a championship. Both played in 2 state tournaments I believe, and both took 3rd place and lost in the consolation final in their 2 appearances.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:12 am
by elliott70
Just some names
1950's
Dick dougherty
Elmer Walls
Williard Ikola
Oscar Mahle
John Matchefts
John Mayasich
1960's
Jim Amidon
Gary Woods
Tim Sheehy
pat Demarchi
Huffer Christianson
Henry Boucha
Dean Blais
Mike Anotovich
Pokey Trachsel
Phil Heoine
Earl Anderson
Mike Baumgartner
Dale Smedrud
Don Ross
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:18 am
by old goalie85
Peltiers 60's from St. paul Johnson??
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:49 pm
by MNHockeyFan
elliott70 wrote:Just some names
1960's
Jim Amidon
Gary Woods
Tim Sheehy
pat Demarchi
Huffer Christianson
Henry Boucha
Dean Blais
Mike Anotovich
Pokey Trachsel
Phil Hoene (correct spelling)
Earl Anderson
Mike Baumgartner
Dale Smedrud
Don Ross
Also:
Bill Klatt - Hill High School [
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... p?pid=8294 ]
Craig Sarner - North St. Paul [
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... p?pid=6758 ]
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:15 pm
by old goalie85
Bill Butters WBL.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:44 pm
by mnmouth
elliott70 wrote:Just some names
1950's
Dick dougherty
Elmer Walls
Williard Ikola
Oscar Mahle
John Matchefts
John Mayasich
1960's
Jim Amidon
Gary Woods
Tim Sheehy
pat Demarchi
Huffer Christianson
Henry Boucha
Dean Blais
Mike Anotovich
Pokey Trachsel
Phil Heoine
Earl Anderson
Mike Baumgartner
Dale Smedrud
Don Ross
This is awesome. Just what we needed.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:35 pm
by Neuuman
Glenn Clarke - 70's
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 am
by Cooper35
Not sure of the decade but also included in the master list should be:
Blaine Comstock
The Christian brothers
Bryan Grand
Butsy Erickson
The 80's are missing a couple key players:
George Pelawa (yes I mentioned him earlier)
Pitt Peters (Bemidji)
Chad Erickson (Warroad)
90's are missing:
Chris Gotziman (Roseau)
Andy Brink (Bemidji)
Lundbohm (Roseau)
Joe Motzko (Bemidji)
Brad Johnson (Bemidji)
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:45 am
by mulefarm
As far as HS, Blaine Comstock was a back-up to Jim Nelson I believe. Nelson went to UND and Blaine went to BSU and had a great college career and played onm US teams.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:50 am
by C-dad
elliott70 wrote:
1960's
Jim Amidon
Gary Woods
Tim Sheehy
pat Demarchi
Huffer Christianson
Henry Boucha
Dean Blais
Mike Anotovich
Pokey Trachsel
Phil Heoine
Earl Anderson
Mike Baumgartner
Dale Smedrud
Don Ross
Bobby Krieger
Billy Nyrop
Both graduated in 1970, but won State in '69.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:37 am
by Mite-dad
Was Derek Plante a good HS player?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:11 am
by warriors41
mulefarm wrote:As far as HS, Blaine Comstock was a back-up to Jim Nelson I believe. Nelson went to UND and Blaine went to BSU and had a great college career and played onm US teams.
I imagine that team didn't win very many games

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:34 am
by keepyourheadup
Missing an awfully good player from the 70's
Steve Christoff was the bomb at Richfield...One a state toruney, ncaa and a gold medal.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:03 pm
by keepyourheadup
oops! I meant won...self policing my grammar
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:34 pm
by C-dad
keepyourheadup wrote:oops! I meant won...self policing my grammar
There's an edit button too. If you're quick enough, no one ever need know you made the first mistake.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:38 pm
by dwvandy
Not many pure hockey players better than Mark Pavelich... Ask the players....
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:34 pm
by keepyourheadup
No kidding..forgot about Pavelich..as good as anyone in his day.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:45 pm
by whos_it
keepyourheadup wrote:No disrespect to Crowley here, he was an absolute joy to watch. Lets not forget he had a hell of a supporting cast with him. I watched every game the year Cullen was a senior and he was hands down the best forward in the tourney...and it wasn't close! The fact he makes millions playing hockey now is no accident. To say he wasn't close to Crowley is likely due to the fact we didn't get to see as much of him. His career speaks for itself.....for crying out loud the kid was a huge part of winning the cup.
Right on. Crowley played with, according to everyone from Bloomington, the greatest team in the history of Minnesota hockey. You couldn't just focus on him or teams would have. No doubt if the entire roster had been picked less one open position and coach Saterdalen had to fill out the roster, he would have been picking Matt Cullen over Mike Crowley. Of course, coach, if you are one of these aliases on this forum, you will deny it, but I know better.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:08 pm
by mnmouth
keepyourheadup wrote:No kidding..forgot about Pavelich..as good as anyone in his day.
Check out my post on a previous page . . .
The '75 Eveleth team with Pavelich and Dave Delich went into the Region 7 tournament as a co-favorite with Virginia and Bah Harrington and Dave Joelson, only to be bested by Grand Rapids with Dan Lempe, John Rothstein, Erin Roth, Chocolate Clafton, Bill Baker and others. Those were 3 awesome teams, as indicated by the amount of talent just with those names I can remember.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:21 pm
by mulefarm
whos_it wrote:keepyourheadup wrote:No disrespect to Crowley here, he was an absolute joy to watch. Lets not forget he had a hell of a supporting cast with him. I watched every game the year Cullen was a senior and he was hands down the best forward in the tourney...and it wasn't close! The fact he makes millions playing hockey now is no accident. To say he wasn't close to Crowley is likely due to the fact we didn't get to see as much of him. His career speaks for itself.....for crying out loud the kid was a huge part of winning the cup.
Right on. Crowley played with, according to everyone from Bloomington, the greatest team in the history of Minnesota hockey. You couldn't just focus on him or teams would have. No doubt if the entire roster had been picked less one open position and coach Saterdalen had to fill out the roster, he would have been picking Matt Cullen over Mike Crowley. Of course, coach, if you are one of these aliases on this forum, you will deny it, but I know better.
It's to bad Cullen had to play with a bunch of stiffs at Moorhead. I'm sure the 94-95 teams didn't have any good hockey players.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:14 pm
by keepyourheadup
No where did I call the spuds a bunch of stiffs, merely pointing out that Jefferson at that time was considered one of the top teams in the history of high school hockey.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:25 pm
by scarface
So I have to stick up for the Big 9.....Eric Strobel won a gold medal and wasn't too shabby for Southern hockey. May take some heat for this post but most of you didn't have to defend him.