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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:09 pm
by pipes3030
edgeless2 wrote:Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:DanFromWoodbury wrote:
The best hockey players at a high school often play football. There have been a million high school hockey players who letter in football too. I disagree with the one sport athlete theory.
I think spring sports are great for hockey players.. Never said you need to be a one sport athlete. Playing football without a doubt hurts your hockey though because when you should be preparing for the season at captains practice, you are out on the football field. and since Wayzata always makes the state tournament in football, the football/hockey players have to miss the first week of tryouts which puts them at a disadvantage right off the bat. Seem pretty clear to me.
Didnt seem to harm Anders Lee or Zack Budish??
Remind me how Budish's senior hockey season went?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:47 pm
by DanFromWoodbury
pipes3030 wrote:edgeless2 wrote:Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:
I think spring sports are great for hockey players.. Never said you need to be a one sport athlete. Playing football without a doubt hurts your hockey though because when you should be preparing for the season at captains practice, you are out on the football field. and since Wayzata always makes the state tournament in football, the football/hockey players have to miss the first week of tryouts which puts them at a disadvantage right off the bat. Seem pretty clear to me.
Didnt seem to harm Anders Lee or Zack Budish??
Remind me how Budish's senior hockey season went?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:57 pm
by edgeless2
I do believe it went well enough to go in the first round of the NHL draft that's good right?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 pm
by Hscout000
I actually think Football can help players. Gives them a break from the year round grind and demands of hockey. Good change of pace and there are a lot of successful hockey players that also played football in high school.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:11 pm
by minnscout
I live in Wayzata school district and my kids attend school there and its a great school but its really big and you do not get nearly the attention you would get if you go to Benilde. Saying Wayzata is better than Benilde is crazy, I am pretty certain Benilde was number 2 in the state in average ACT scores last year. When my kids get to high school they will attend a private as well just for the fact that you have closer relationships with the teachers and academic counslers and each kid is help to a very high standard. Not only that but the % of kids that get college academic scholarships coming out of privates is very high. It is like anything else you have to spend money to make money, its not paying for college twice its making a great investment.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:54 pm
by MJA10
edgeless2 wrote:I do believe it went well enough to go in the first round of the NHL draft that's good right?
Well he went in the second round so I suggest you work on your facts
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:11 am
by edgeless2
MJA10 wrote:edgeless2 wrote:I do believe it went well enough to go in the first round of the NHL draft that's good right?
Well he went in the second round so I suggest you work on your facts
You are correct sir. I do believe it went well enough to go in the second round of the NHL draft. That's good right?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:25 am
by MJA10
edgeless2 wrote:MJA10 wrote:edgeless2 wrote:I do believe it went well enough to go in the first round of the NHL draft that's good right?
Well he went in the second round so I suggest you work on your facts
You are correct sir. I do believe it went well enough to go in the second round of the NHL draft. That's good right?
Yes but I'm sure he would have liked it to have gone much differently
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:53 am
by Oldtimehockeyguy23
Hscout000 wrote:I actually think Football can help players. Gives them a break from the year round grind and demands of hockey. Good change of pace and there are a lot of successful hockey players that also played football in high school.
yeah the physical demands of football "give you a break." Really lets you rest up before a long hockey season
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:57 am
by Oldtimehockeyguy23
minnscout wrote:I live in Wayzata school district and my kids attend school there and its a great school but its really big and you do not get nearly the attention you would get if you go to Benilde. Saying Wayzata is better than Benilde is crazy, I am pretty certain Benilde was number 2 in the state in average ACT scores last year. When my kids get to high school they will attend a private as well just for the fact that you have closer relationships with the teachers and academic counslers and each kid is help to a very high standard. Not only that but the % of kids that get college academic scholarships coming out of privates is very high. It is like anything else you have to spend money to make money, its not paying for college twice its making a great investment.
If you took BSM's enrollment, then look at that number of kids for the top ACT scores at wayzata, they would be similar i guarantee. Just because you have bottom kids in your school doesn't affect the school's performance?? You do NOT have to spend money to make money in this sense. Wayzata's math team has won state the past 6 seasons. They have a couple science olympiads year in and year out. Class sizes at Wayzata are reasonable usually 25-30 kids in a class. You can easily have a relationship with a teacher because the teachers only have 3 classes per term meaning they have roughly 75 kids at a time. This can easily be done and I know for a fact many kids have extremely close relationships with their teachers at Wayzata.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:40 am
by minnscout
Oldtimehockeyguy
Wayzata is a great school i do not disagree but its not the same as the private school sorry.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:32 am
by edgeless2
Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:Hscout000 wrote:I actually think Football can help players. Gives them a break from the year round grind and demands of hockey. Good change of pace and there are a lot of successful hockey players that also played football in high school.
yeah the physical demands of football "give you a break." Really lets you rest up before a long hockey season
I really don't see why you would need rest as a 16-18 year old for a 25-30 game season.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:22 pm
by Oldtimehockeyguy23
minnscout wrote:Oldtimehockeyguy
Wayzata is a great school i do not disagree but its not the same as the private school sorry.
You're absolutely right, it's better.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:24 pm
by Oldtimehockeyguy23
edgeless2 wrote:Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:Hscout000 wrote:I actually think Football can help players. Gives them a break from the year round grind and demands of hockey. Good change of pace and there are a lot of successful hockey players that also played football in high school.
yeah the physical demands of football "give you a break." Really lets you rest up before a long hockey season
I really don't see why you would need rest as a 16-18 year old for a 25-30 game season.
you don't need to, but it definitely has a negative impact on your season.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:44 pm
by minnscout
oldtimer
Good one.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:49 pm
by edgeless2
Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:edgeless2 wrote:Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:
yeah the physical demands of football "give you a break." Really lets you rest up before a long hockey season
I really don't see why you would need rest as a 16-18 year old for a 25-30 game season.
you don't need to, but it definitely has a negative impact on your season.
Your right we need to put all student athletes in hyperbaric chambers until hockey season to insure state titles!
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:41 am
by Oldtimehockeyguy23
edgeless2 wrote:Oldtimehockeyguy23 wrote:edgeless2 wrote:
I really don't see why you would need rest as a 16-18 year old for a 25-30 game season.
you don't need to, but it definitely has a negative impact on your season.
Your right we need to put all student athletes in hyperbaric chambers until hockey season to insure state titles!
Spring sports are great for hockey players... not fall sports though. especially football.