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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:10 am
by Bluewhitefan
Zamman wrote:
green4 wrote:not really your typical transfer but a player from edina played JV when he was a soph and as a junior he was cut decided not to play Junior gold and instead was the varsity manager for Edina and now going to be a senior has talked to the Duluth East coach and apparently was told if he moves up there he can play for them and i have been told thats what he has done by many people around Edina
Just a note, but coaches cannot promise players playing time like that, so I do not think it happened as so.
He could just transfer and play, but a coach telling him to come and play. That is called recruiting.
What? Recruiting? We all know that never goes on. :shock:

Re: Two Transfers In, One Transfer Out

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:28 am
by HockeySLP
silentbutdeadly3139 wrote:
F14 wrote:St. Louis Park had a senior Defensemen from Hill-Murray last year who was 6th or 7th defensemen move in who also is a linebacker and Rogers top Bantam A player also a defenseman had his mom move into a house.

Sounds like Marshall Tema went to juniors on defense, so those kids should get a lot of ice time with Noah Fortmeyer.
Is that 1 kid or 2 or 3 ? please add some commas, newlines or something so we can figure it out :)
This is 2 defensemen, one from Hill-Murray named Frankie, and one from Rogers named Stanley. Both physically moved to SLP to play for Podien.

Two Players Transfer Out of St. Louis Park & One to NAHL

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:30 am
by F14
Freshmen Alec Baer started school at Benilde last week and sophomore Josh Passolt moved to Maple Grove recently for the future. His dad and Coach Stefano have known each other for a long time. These were the second and third leading scorers behind Tyler Brodersen who graduated. Huge losses.

As mentioned earlier, senior defensemen Marshall Tema is playing juniors in NAHL this season. He was a Park captain for this upcoming season but spent 9th and 10th at Providence and then was named to Elite League in late July before he kept going to tryouts and left for NAHL in Texas.

Two players transferred in as it was mentioned as defensemen as was mentioned previously.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:44 am
by newtendy29fan
Apparently, EP's stellar goalie- LaCombe has transferred. EP has another up and coming goalie (Kielly) but it is a shame since LaCombe made a huge impact on the Eagles season last year. He made all the difference in the teams record; playing a majority of the games and against a majority of the toughest teams on their schedule. Keep up the good work, #29!

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:39 am
by hockeyfan893
newtendy29fan wrote:Apparently, EP's stellar goalie- LaCombe has transferred. EP has another up and coming goalie (Kielly) but it is a shame since LaCombe made a huge impact on the Eagles season last year. He made all the difference in the teams record; playing a majority of the games and against a majority of the toughest teams on their schedule. Keep up the good work, #29!
Thanks Mom, where are you guys sending him?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:56 am
by observer
Playing JV the first year after the tranfer always stings a little.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:36 pm
by almostashappy
observer wrote:Playing JV the first year after the tranfer always stings a little.
You mean that actually happens sometimes? :shock:

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:41 pm
by Wside
Where is he headed?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:44 pm
by HShockeywatcher
What would people think of private schools having their own bantam teams? Every year we hear stories of kids who attend a private school in 9th grade and play bantams, then the next year when they are on the varsity team the following year they are somehow a traitor.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the current system, but curious what other think.
urban iceman wrote:What about getting a residence in a new school district but "renting out " the old residence from where they came from?? Kind of fishy!!
How do you regulate a business decision made by a family?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:49 pm
by HShockeywatcher
C-dad wrote:
langskates wrote:
Bluewhitefan wrote: Excellent question - the family you refer to has been masters at dodging the spirit and probably the letter of the MSHSL rules - simply chasing programs that can win a title and abandoning the ones that can't.
Private schools are assigned to the school district the private school is in. St Thomas is in 197 West St. Paul-Mendota Hts.-Eagan School District.
That is true, but irrelevant to the topic at hand, i.e. high school eligibility of kids transferring from one private to another isn't it?
That does answer the question (as far as I understand it).
If you go to St Thomas and live in Farmington (for example) and want to play at Holy Angels the following year, you'd have to move to Richfield.

The question I have: is there any way for a student to move to/from schools in the same public school district without sitting out a year?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:40 pm
by karl(east)
HShockeywatcher wrote:That does answer the question (as far as I understand it).
If you go to St Thomas and live in Farmington (for example) and want to play at Holy Angels the following year, you'd have to move to Richfield.

The question I have: is there any way for a student to move to/from schools in the same public school district without sitting out a year?
From the MSHSL:
B. Family Residence Change: the student transfers from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area at any time during the calendar year in which there is a change of residence and occupancy in Minnesota by the student’s parents. If the student’s parents move from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area, the student will be eligible in the new public school attendance area or a non-public school if the student transfers at the same time the student’s parents move.

If the parents move from one public school district attendance area to another, the student shall continue to be fully eligible if the student continues enrollment in the prior school for the balance of the current marking period or for the balance of the academic school year. If the student elects either of the current enrollment options above, the student will be fully eligible upon transfer to the new school.

A student who elects not to transfer upon a parent’s change in residence shall continue to be eligible at the school in which the student is currently enrolled.

Source: http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/eligquestions.htm
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My understanding of this is that anyone is eligible to play, public or private, so long as they move from one "public attendance area" to another. Private schools adopt the "attendance areas" of the public school district in which they are located.

So as to the first scenario, as long as the player moves out of Farmington, he is eligible to play at Holy Angels. Doesn't matter where he goes.

As for the second question, the answer is yes, so long as it's a different "attendance area" within the school district. That is, if a player were to move from the east side of Duluth to the west side, he'd be eligible at Denfeld, even though Denfeld is in the same school district. Attendance areas are what matter, not school districts.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:43 am
by pioneers
karl(east) wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:That does answer the question (as far as I understand it).
If you go to St Thomas and live in Farmington (for example) and want to play at Holy Angels the following year, you'd have to move to Richfield.

The question I have: is there any way for a student to move to/from schools in the same public school district without sitting out a year?
From the MSHSL:
B. Family Residence Change: the student transfers from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area at any time during the calendar year in which there is a change of residence and occupancy in Minnesota by the student’s parents. If the student’s parents move from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area, the student will be eligible in the new public school attendance area or a non-public school if the student transfers at the same time the student’s parents move.

If the parents move from one public school district attendance area to another, the student shall continue to be fully eligible if the student continues enrollment in the prior school for the balance of the current marking period or for the balance of the academic school year. If the student elects either of the current enrollment options above, the student will be fully eligible upon transfer to the new school.

A student who elects not to transfer upon a parent’s change in residence shall continue to be eligible at the school in which the student is currently enrolled.

Source: http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/eligquestions.htm
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My understanding of this is that anyone is eligible to play, public or private, so long as they move from one "public attendance area" to another. Private schools adopt the "attendance areas" of the public school district in which they are located.

So as to the first scenario, as long as the player moves out of Farmington, he is eligible to play at Holy Angels. Doesn't matter where he goes.

As for the second question, the answer is yes, so long as it's a different "attendance area" within the school district. That is, if a player were to move from the east side of Duluth to the west side, he'd be eligible at Denfeld, even though Denfeld is in the same school district. Attendance areas are what matter, not school districts.
I believe that private schools do not have attendance areas.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:30 am
by Roy01
pioneers wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:That does answer the question (as far as I understand it).
If you go to St Thomas and live in Farmington (for example) and want to play at Holy Angels the following year, you'd have to move to Richfield.

The question I have: is there any way for a student to move to/from schools in the same public school district without sitting out a year?
From the MSHSL:
B. Family Residence Change: the student transfers from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area at any time during the calendar year in which there is a change of residence and occupancy in Minnesota by the student’s parents. If the student’s parents move from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area, the student will be eligible in the new public school attendance area or a non-public school if the student transfers at the same time the student’s parents move.

If the parents move from one public school district attendance area to another, the student shall continue to be fully eligible if the student continues enrollment in the prior school for the balance of the current marking period or for the balance of the academic school year. If the student elects either of the current enrollment options above, the student will be fully eligible upon transfer to the new school.

A student who elects not to transfer upon a parent’s change in residence shall continue to be eligible at the school in which the student is currently enrolled.

Source: http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/eligquestions.htm
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My understanding of this is that anyone is eligible to play, public or private, so long as they move from one "public attendance area" to another. Private schools adopt the "attendance areas" of the public school district in which they are located.

So as to the first scenario, as long as the player moves out of Farmington, he is eligible to play at Holy Angels. Doesn't matter where he goes.

As for the second question, the answer is yes, so long as it's a different "attendance area" within the school district. That is, if a player were to move from the east side of Duluth to the west side, he'd be eligible at Denfeld, even though Denfeld is in the same school district. Attendance areas are what matter, not school districts.
I believe that private schools do not have attendance areas.
I believe private attendance areas are drawn as if the school were a public and would fit within that specified district.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:01 pm
by pioneers
I don't think so. I know a H-M player that lived in Stillwater and transferred to Benilde for his senior season. They moved from Stillwater to I believe Orono and he played right away.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:25 pm
by Roy01
pioneers wrote:I don't think so. I know a H-M player that lived in Stillwater and transferred to Benilde for his senior season. They moved from Stillwater to I believe Orono and he played right away.
I do believe there is an appeal process through the MSHSL to keep eligibility, but I'm not certain. Maybe they did that?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:57 pm
by hocktalk
Roy01 wrote:
pioneers wrote:I don't think so. I know a H-M player that lived in Stillwater and transferred to Benilde for his senior season. They moved from Stillwater to I believe Orono and he played right away.
I do believe there is an appeal process through the MSHSL to keep eligibility, but I'm not certain. Maybe they did that?
An appeal free transfer (no lost eligibility) is an option for anyone enrolling/transferring to any private school in conjunction with a move from one community/high school boundary to another. Another advantage for the privates.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:01 am
by jancze5
Transfer and eligibility is only as good as the coach and AD on the gaining end are willing to put into it. If they do their job, the kid is eligible. We see head scratchers every year and will continue to.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:22 am
by thestickler07
Any transfers into STA this year?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:26 am
by rainier
thestickler07 wrote:Any transfers into STA this year?
If you want to find a list of transfers into STA, just go their Hub page and click on "roster". :D :D :D

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:57 am
by eastsideguy
actually they do have one who came in from Cretin

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:00 am
by thestickler07
eastsideguy wrote:actually they do have one who came in from Cretin
Any info on him?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:40 am
by urban iceman
HShockeywatcher wrote:What would people think of private schools having their own bantam teams? Every year we hear stories of kids who attend a private school in 9th grade and play bantams, then the next year when they are on the varsity team the following year they are somehow a traitor.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the current system, but curious what other think.
urban iceman wrote:What about getting a residence in a new school district but "renting out " the old residence from where they came from?? Kind of fishy!!
How do you regulate a business decision made by a family?
NOT a buisness decision, but a" getting around the rules" decision by renting in new district and keeping and renting old residence in the previous district! Lots more to the story if the MSHSL would ever investigate these sort of shenanigans!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:57 am
by eastsideguy
thestickler07 wrote:
eastsideguy wrote:actually they do have one who came in from Cretin
Any info on him?
Senior forward, it will be interesting to see where he fits in, they have a lot of good forwards already

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:58 am
by eastsideguy
rainier wrote:
thestickler07 wrote:Any transfers into STA this year?
If you want to find a list of transfers into STA, just go their Hub page and click on "roster". :D :D :D
:roll:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:18 pm
by MNHockeyFan
urban iceman wrote:Lots more to the story if the MSHSL would ever investigate these sort of shenanigans!!!
The MSHSL, out of necessity, has to rely on the integrity of each school's AD to make sure all athletes are eligible and remain eligible for competition. In the last couple of days I've read in the StarTribune that the activity directors of two different schools reported violations for football players who were found to be ineligible, and as a result they had to forfeit those games in which they participated. At least one of the ineligible players was found to have violated the transfer rule.