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I said they'd play like their pubes were on fire!Hockey922 wrote:Stillwater is just out working hill and beating them to every puck
Great to see an upstart make it count, and make some history. Now I don't have to feel frustrated about WBL's loss, since Stillwater made something special out of it for themselves. Hope they enjoy their chance on the big stage.
No, they did betray their youth program.Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:I don't think Hill "played their hearts out." It was way more "mail it in" like an earlier poster stated. They looked past this team and as a result they learned a hard lesson that records and seeding and everything on paper can be meaningless in the moment. The emotion after the game was intense. The emotion before the game was relaxed. Seems backward?
And could we puhleeze stop accusing kids who choose Hill or any other private school as being the ultimate betrayers to community hockey and their association teammates.
Congrats to Stillwater.
Wow, is this the first "FIRE LECH" post? Never happen, but if it did, I'm sure Sager would be the first to apply.Pioneerprideguy wrote:First of all, congrats to Stillwater & Coach Doman. You showed what good coaching & hard work can accomplish. I hope you & the "Pony Nation" enjoy the experience at State.
I said at the beginning of the year this team lack leadership & goaltending and last night both were shaky.
Coach Lechner appears to be taking a lot of the blame for this loss, and frankly, he deserves it. When you are the clear favorite because you have superior talent on the ice and decades of experience behind the bench, you are expected to take care of business. The approach usually taken in this situation is eliminate any hope your oppositition has right away. So Lex opts to start the game tentative and use a 1 man forechecking scheme? Really? You choose not to use you speed advantage to try to jump on Stillwater from the get go? You opt to shorten the game to a 2 period adventure? You allow Stillwater to leave the ice after 1 thinking, "hey we can play with these guys"? Why??
This is the 2nd time in 4 years HM has failed to get to get to State when they were favored to do so and in both situations, they had more talent & in my opinion, were out coached. Lets be honest about things, Lex basically coaches a metro all-star team. If you look at his line-up every year, he is basically coaching some of, if not the best kids from numerous youth associations from the metro/WI area. Most coaches would die to have that talent to work with and to step on the ice each night with that advantage.
I think we can officially take Lechner's name any "best coaches in the State" polls. I think if you were to poll former (and current) players, parents, and alumni and ask if you were in favor of a head coahing change, most would say yes......years ago! No 1 person should be an AD and head coach 2 sports (control issues?). We are glad he is giving up baseball and think it is time he goes off to spend more time golfing and spending time with his grandchildren. It is time to hand the reigns to the Shaf Brothers and let them reap the financial benefits of running the hockey program.
To the HM players, you guys are great. You worked hard and represented your school with pride. Unfortunately, you were put in a situation at the end of playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Good luck to the seniors.
Boy,nothing like throwing a high school coach who is supoose to teach kids life long lessons under the bus. It sounds like you over estimate the talent at HM, and under estimate the talent at other schools. When you get to champioship games and the talent is pretty equal, leadership and goaltending are extremely important to which you said HM lacked. Lechner is and has proven to be a great high school coach.Pioneerprideguy wrote:First of all, congrats to Stillwater & Coach Doman. You showed what good coaching & hard work can accomplish. I hope you & the "Pony Nation" enjoy the experience at State.
I said at the beginning of the year this team lack leadership & goaltending and last night both were shaky.
Coach Lechner appears to be taking a lot of the blame for this loss, and frankly, he deserves it. When you are the clear favorite because you have superior talent on the ice and decades of experience behind the bench, you are expected to take care of business. The approach usually taken in this situation is eliminate any hope your oppositition has right away. So Lex opts to start the game tentative and use a 1 man forechecking scheme? Really? You choose not to use you speed advantage to try to jump on Stillwater from the get go? You opt to shorten the game to a 2 period adventure? You allow Stillwater to leave the ice after 1 thinking, "hey we can play with these guys"? Why??
This is the 2nd time in 4 years HM has failed to get to get to State when they were favored to do so and in both situations, they had more talent & in my opinion, were out coached. Lets be honest about things, Lex basically coaches a metro all-star team. If you look at his line-up every year, he is basically coaching some of, if not the best kids from numerous youth associations from the metro/WI area. Most coaches would die to have that talent to work with and to step on the ice each night with that advantage.
I think we can officially take Lechner's name any "best coaches in the State" polls. I think if you were to poll former (and current) players, parents, and alumni and ask if you were in favor of a head coahing change, most would say yes......years ago! No 1 person should be an AD and head coach 2 sports (control issues?). We are glad he is giving up baseball and think it is time he goes off to spend more time golfing and spending time with his grandchildren. It is time to hand the reigns to the Shaf Brothers and let them reap the financial benefits of running the hockey program.
To the HM players, you guys are great. You worked hard and represented your school with pride. Unfortunately, you were put in a situation at the end of playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Good luck to the seniors.
Validated everything that you used to disagree with me about.Pioneerprideguy wrote:First of all, congrats to Stillwater & Coach Doman. You showed what good coaching & hard work can accomplish. I hope you & the "Pony Nation" enjoy the experience at State.
I said at the beginning of the year this team lack leadership & goaltending and last night both were shaky.
Coach Lechner appears to be taking a lot of the blame for this loss, and frankly, he deserves it. When you are the clear favorite because you have superior talent on the ice and decades of experience behind the bench, you are expected to take care of business. The approach usually taken in this situation is eliminate any hope your oppositition has right away. So Lex opts to start the game tentative and use a 1 man forechecking scheme? Really? You choose not to use you speed advantage to try to jump on Stillwater from the get go? You opt to shorten the game to a 2 period adventure? You allow Stillwater to leave the ice after 1 thinking, "hey we can play with these guys"? Why??
This is the 2nd time in 4 years HM has failed to get to get to State when they were favored to do so and in both situations, they had more talent & in my opinion, were out coached. Lets be honest about things, Lex basically coaches a metro all-star team. If you look at his line-up every year, he is basically coaching some of, if not the best kids from numerous youth associations from the metro/WI area. Most coaches would die to have that talent to work with and to step on the ice each night with that advantage.
I think we can officially take Lechner's name any "best coaches in the State" polls. I think if you were to poll former (and current) players, parents, and alumni and ask if you were in favor of a head coahing change, most would say yes......years ago! No 1 person should be an AD and head coach 2 sports (control issues?). We are glad he is giving up baseball and think it is time he goes off to spend more time golfing and spending time with his grandchildren. It is time to hand the reigns to the Shaf Brothers and let them reap the financial benefits of running the hockey program.
To the HM players, you guys are great. You worked hard and represented your school with pride. Unfortunately, you were put in a situation at the end of playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Good luck to the seniors.
Good luck to the Poniesmulefarm wrote:Boy,nothing like throwing a high school coach who is supoose to teach kids life long lessons under the bus. It sounds like you over estimate the talent at HM, and under estimate the talent at other schools. When you get to champioship games and the talent is pretty equal, leadership and goaltending are extremely important to which you said HM lacked. Lechner is and has proven to be a great high school coach.Pioneerprideguy wrote:First of all, congrats to Stillwater & Coach Doman. You showed what good coaching & hard work can accomplish. I hope you & the "Pony Nation" enjoy the experience at State.
I said at the beginning of the year this team lack leadership & goaltending and last night both were shaky.
Coach Lechner appears to be taking a lot of the blame for this loss, and frankly, he deserves it. When you are the clear favorite because you have superior talent on the ice and decades of experience behind the bench, you are expected to take care of business. The approach usually taken in this situation is eliminate any hope your oppositition has right away. So Lex opts to start the game tentative and use a 1 man forechecking scheme? Really? You choose not to use you speed advantage to try to jump on Stillwater from the get go? You opt to shorten the game to a 2 period adventure? You allow Stillwater to leave the ice after 1 thinking, "hey we can play with these guys"? Why??
This is the 2nd time in 4 years HM has failed to get to get to State when they were favored to do so and in both situations, they had more talent & in my opinion, were out coached. Lets be honest about things, Lex basically coaches a metro all-star team. If you look at his line-up every year, he is basically coaching some of, if not the best kids from numerous youth associations from the metro/WI area. Most coaches would die to have that talent to work with and to step on the ice each night with that advantage.
I think we can officially take Lechner's name any "best coaches in the State" polls. I think if you were to poll former (and current) players, parents, and alumni and ask if you were in favor of a head coahing change, most would say yes......years ago! No 1 person should be an AD and head coach 2 sports (control issues?). We are glad he is giving up baseball and think it is time he goes off to spend more time golfing and spending time with his grandchildren. It is time to hand the reigns to the Shaf Brothers and let them reap the financial benefits of running the hockey program.
To the HM players, you guys are great. You worked hard and represented your school with pride. Unfortunately, you were put in a situation at the end of playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Good luck to the seniors.
No he started his Roseville line But he should have known joey and company have never beat Stillwater12to14 wrote:Congrats to Stillwater!! I wasn't at the game but I sure hope cocky Lex started his Stillwater boys, just like he always has in the past, And I hope those Stillwater boys woke up today wishing their parents hadn't sent them to Hill (for the education of course) but instead to Stillwater. It is nice to see no private schools in the AA section. This a step forward showing PARENTS they don't need to pay 16K to get noticed, you can do it for FREE.
Please enlighten me on your fact driven statement.Reg7 wrote:Life lessons? seriously? I guy who throws one kid under the bus while throwing a blanket over "The Golden Child" and looking the other way for the same or worse offense!! Yes that's who I want my son being taught life lessons...and yes this is a fact driven statement...Good luck to Stillwater.mulefarm wrote:Boy,nothing like throwing a high school coach who is supoose to teach kids life long lessons under the bus. It sounds like you over estimate the talent at HM, and under estimate the talent at other schools. When you get to champioship games and the talent is pretty equal, leadership and goaltending are extremely important to which you said HM lacked. Lechner is and has proven to be a great high school coach.Pioneerprideguy wrote:First of all, congrats to Stillwater & Coach Doman. You showed what good coaching & hard work can accomplish. I hope you & the "Pony Nation" enjoy the experience at State.
I said at the beginning of the year this team lack leadership & goaltending and last night both were shaky.
Coach Lechner appears to be taking a lot of the blame for this loss, and frankly, he deserves it. When you are the clear favorite because you have superior talent on the ice and decades of experience behind the bench, you are expected to take care of business. The approach usually taken in this situation is eliminate any hope your oppositition has right away. So Lex opts to start the game tentative and use a 1 man forechecking scheme? Really? You choose not to use you speed advantage to try to jump on Stillwater from the get go? You opt to shorten the game to a 2 period adventure? You allow Stillwater to leave the ice after 1 thinking, "hey we can play with these guys"? Why??
This is the 2nd time in 4 years HM has failed to get to get to State when they were favored to do so and in both situations, they had more talent & in my opinion, were out coached. Lets be honest about things, Lex basically coaches a metro all-star team. If you look at his line-up every year, he is basically coaching some of, if not the best kids from numerous youth associations from the metro/WI area. Most coaches would die to have that talent to work with and to step on the ice each night with that advantage.
I think we can officially take Lechner's name any "best coaches in the State" polls. I think if you were to poll former (and current) players, parents, and alumni and ask if you were in favor of a head coahing change, most would say yes......years ago! No 1 person should be an AD and head coach 2 sports (control issues?). We are glad he is giving up baseball and think it is time he goes off to spend more time golfing and spending time with his grandchildren. It is time to hand the reigns to the Shaf Brothers and let them reap the financial benefits of running the hockey program.
To the HM players, you guys are great. You worked hard and represented your school with pride. Unfortunately, you were put in a situation at the end of playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Good luck to the seniors.
See kids, Stay home and play with your buddies, its much more fullfiling and easier on your parents budget. Where's Willie??12to14 wrote:Congrats to Stillwater!! I wasn't at the game but I sure hope cocky Lex started his Stillwater boys, just like he always has in the past, And I hope those Stillwater boys woke up today wishing their parents hadn't sent them to Hill (for the education of course) but instead to Stillwater. It is nice to see no private schools in the AA section. This a step forward showing PARENTS they don't need to pay 16K to get noticed, you can do it for FREE.
Good luck to the Poniesmulefarm wrote:Please enlighten me on your fact driven statement.Reg7 wrote:Life lessons? seriously? I guy who throws one kid under the bus while throwing a blanket over "The Golden Child" and looking the other way for the same or worse offense!! Yes that's who I want my son being taught life lessons...and yes this is a fact driven statement...Good luck to Stillwater.mulefarm wrote: Boy,nothing like throwing a high school coach who is supoose to teach kids life long lessons under the bus. It sounds like you over estimate the talent at HM, and under estimate the talent at other schools. When you get to champioship games and the talent is pretty equal, leadership and goaltending are extremely important to which you said HM lacked. Lechner is and has proven to be a great high school coach.
Reg7 wrote:I think I'll just leave as, I've lived it and seen it first hand. You believe what you like but like coach said "let's just be honest"...so I am...but was he?[/quotemulefarm wrote:Please enlighten me on your fact driven statement.Reg7 wrote: Life lessons? seriously? I guy who throws one kid under the bus while throwing a blanket over "The Golden Child" and looking the other way for the same or worse offense!! Yes that's who I want my son being taught life lessons...and yes this is a fact driven statement...Good luck to Stillwater.
Is it fact or you didn't agree with the decision and are expressing your opinion? Doesn't sound like you are being honest?
mulefarm wrote:Good luck to the PoniesReg7 wrote:I think I'll just leave as, I've lived it and seen it first hand. You believe what you like but like coach said "let's just be honest"...so I am...but was he?[/quotemulefarm wrote: Please enlighten me on your fact driven statement.
Is it fact or you didn't agree with the decision and are expressing your opinion? Doesn't sound like you are being honest?