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I'm not sure where they draw the lines for the geographical boundaries, or whether it's by school or residence, but my daughter received her's in the mail yesterday (Saturday).ghshockeyfan wrote:I assume that these are sent out in a similar time frame for all regions, but I won't assume that until I hear confirmation...
Now I'm confused. Maybe it's the terminology, or maybe it's that we have so much going on in MN this year...OntheEdge wrote:She is in the SW region and was notified of her selection for the Advanced 15 camp. She is very deserving and no she is not my daughter.ghshockeyfan wrote:What region are you (is she) in? N/SW/E/C?OntheEdge wrote: It appears that they are being sent out. I know a girl that got one today (Saturday).
Regions are:MNHockeyFan wrote:I'm not sure where they draw the lines for the geographical boundaries, or whether it's by school or residence, but my daughter received her's in the mail yesterday (Saturday).ghshockeyfan wrote:I assume that these are sent out in a similar time frame for all regions, but I won't assume that until I hear confirmation...
Sorry my mistake GHS. Its terminology. I meant the National Development Camp.ghshockeyfan wrote:Now I'm confused. Maybe it's the terminology, or maybe it's that we have so much going on in MN this year...OntheEdge wrote:She is in the SW region and was notified of her selection for the Advanced 15 camp. She is very deserving and no she is not my daughter.ghshockeyfan wrote: What region are you (is she) in? N/SW/E/C?
March 23, 2007 - March 25, 2007
National Development Camp Phase 1 - Various Locations (MN (MNKOTA) 1989/1990 17's/18's, 1991 16's, 1992 15's - First Phase NDP):
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted ... ochure.pdf
April 13, 2007 - April 15, 2007
National Development Camp Phase 2 - Schwan's Super Rink, Blaine, MN (MN (MNKOTA) 1989/1990 17's/18's, 1991 16's, 1992 15's - Second Phase NDP):
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted ... ochure.pdf
June 23, 2007 - June 28, 2007
Advanced 15 Girls Summer Festival Hockey Development Camp - Minnesota State University All Seasons Arena Mankato, MN (MN Only 1992's):
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted ... r%20v2.pdf
June 23, 2007 - June 29, 2007
Girls’ Sel. 17/18 Player Development Camp - Lake Placid, N.Y. (Nat'l 1989/1990 B days - Phase 3 NDP):
http://www.usahockey.com/06_camps/main_site/main/home//
July 7, 2007 - July 13, 2007
Girls’ Select 16 Player Development Camp - Rochester, N.Y. (Nat'l 1991 B days - Phase 3 NDP):
http://www.usahockey.com/06_camps/main_site/main/home//
July 8, 2007 - July 13, 2007
MGHCA Fresh/Soph Development Camp - Breezy Point Arena, Breezy Point, MN (MN Fr & So in HS currently - mostly 91's & 92's?):
http://www.mghca.com
July 21, 2007 - July 27, 2007
Girls’ Select 15 Player Development Camp St. Cloud, Minn. (Nat'l 1992 B days - Phase 3 NDP, first time outside of NY - other birthyears @ NY):
http://www.usahockey.com/06_camps/main_site/main/home//
I was just curious as to if the invites to #1 on my list were getting confused with #3.OntheEdge wrote:Sorry my mistake GHS. Its terminology. I meant the National Development Camp.
Thanks MHJ. I pretty sure that I know how girls are nominated for the National Development Camp. Is it true that the latter two camps are girls that are nominated for the NDP? In other words, if you aren't nominated and/or selected for NDP is there a chance that a girl may participate in one of the other two camps?MHJ wrote:Again to clarify:
There are really only 3 separate Programs for 1992 born girls.
NDP Phase 1, NDP Phase 2, and the USA Hockey National Camp at St. Cloud, July 21-27, are the three progressive parts of the USA Hockey Program, intended to identify potential players for future Olympic teams.
The 15 Camp at Mankato is a Minnesota Hockey skill development program, primarily coached by Minnesota D1 Coaches.
The Freshman/Sophmore Camp is a skill development camp run and coached by the MGHCA (Minnesota Girls' High School Coaches.)
All 3 Programs are valuable opportunities!
The Freshmen/Sophomore camp has a tryout so it's possible to be selected for this if you did not participate in any of the NDP phases.OntheEdge wrote:Thanks MHJ. I pretty sure that I know how girls are nominated for the National Development Camp. Is it true that the latter two camps are girls that are nominated for the NDP? In other words, if you aren't nominated and/or selected for NDP is there a chance that a girl may participate in one of the other two camps?
Thanks MNHockeyFan.MNHockeyFan wrote:The Freshmen/Sophomore camp has a tryout so it's possible to be selected for this if you did not participate in any of the NDP phases.OntheEdge wrote:Thanks MHJ. I'm pretty sure that I know how girls are nominated for the National Development Camp. Is it true that the latter two camps are girls that are nominated for the NDP? In other words, if you aren't nominated and/or selected for NDP is there a chance that a girl may participate in one of the other two camps?
MNHockeyFan wrote:Nicely worded MNH. Add to this a coach may feel his/her entire team did not preform at the level they should have, and sent no kids in do to this. Or on the other side, a coach that feels his/her team exceded expectations sends in 7 or 8 players for nomination. I have seen both. Either way, and in the end, most of the kids that go to Phase III, are usually the ones that would have gone anyway. There just seems to be some kids that deserve the "chance", and just don't get one.xwildfan wrote:I don't dispute what ghs is saying, that there are very few deserving players that get overlooked for Phase 1, but you certainly see how this MIGHT happen.
GHS,ghshockeyfan wrote:I was just curious as to if the invites to #1 on my list were getting confused with #3.OntheEdge wrote:Sorry my mistake GHS. Its terminology. I meant the National Development Camp.
Boy - some 1992's have a TON of things in MN this year:
March 23, 2007 - March 25, 2007
National Development Camp Phase 1 -
April 13, 2007 - April 15, 2007
National Development Camp Phase 2 - Schwan's Super Rink, Blaine, MN
June 23, 2007 - June 28, 2007
Advanced 15 Girls Summer Festival Hockey Development Camp - Minnesota State University All Seasons Arena Mankato, MN
July 8, 2007 - July 13, 2007
MGHCA Fresh/Soph Development Camp - Breezy Point Arena, Breezy Point, MN
July 21, 2007 - July 27, 2007
Girls’ Select 15 Player Development Camp St. Cloud, Minn.
Not to mention the AAA tourney season...
My daughter is an 8th grader and plays on a U16 AAA team. The plan is that they will play in 5 tournaments this year with one in Canada. She also is playing in some select tournaments and does some Acceleration Minnesota. We are looking into Athletic Performance Academy so that might be an option but for now we do some light lifting in the basement at home (its good for me too). The last three years she did Turcotte but I'm hoping to find a stickhandling program that is once or twice a week for the summer. Minnesota Made and Turcotte are one week clinics. For now she works on her own but I think a stickhandling clinic with a lot of one-on-one work would be helpful. She gets some of that in OS and with her AAA team but it would be nice to work exclusively on stickhandling.ghshockeyfan wrote:Is your daughter playing AAA Summer tourneys? What about any leagues during the Summer (besides OS)?
I'm not saying that the AAA tourneys and Summer Leagues are more valuable than OS & Bjugstad - as those are two of the better options - in fact, if I had a kid, they'd do two things - Bjugstad shooting & McBain's stickhandling. From there, it would be time with a trainer in the weight room for plyos/weights endurance/running, etc. - assuming they're old/mature enough to handle this, but even at younger ages kids can do something that is less intense and more geared towards youth...
McBain is Minnesota Made:hockeygod wrote:where do i find a website on McBains stickhandling?
More than enough. She's busy. I'd be a little concerned about burnout unless she wants this level of activity, but only you collectively will know where she's at. Any other sports? Hopefully some other activities, etc. outside of hockey that are a change of pace but not overly time consuming either with the hockey scheudle already being amazing!OntheEdge wrote:My daughter is an 8th grader and plays on a U16 AAA team. The plan is that they will play in 5 tournaments this year with one in Canada. She also is playing in some select tournaments and does some Acceleration Minnesota. We are looking into Athletic Performance Academy so that might be an option but for now we do some light lifting in the basement at home (its good for me too). The last three years she did Turcotte but I'm hoping to find a stickhandling program that is once or twice a week for the summer. Minnesota Made and Turcotte are one week clinics. For now she works on her own but I think a stickhandling clinic with a lot of one-on-one work would be helpful. She gets some of that in OS and with her AAA team but it would be nice to work exclusively on stickhandling.ghshockeyfan wrote:Is your daughter playing AAA Summer tourneys? What about any leagues during the Summer (besides OS)?
I'm not saying that the AAA tourneys and Summer Leagues are more valuable than OS & Bjugstad - as those are two of the better options - in fact, if I had a kid, they'd do two things - Bjugstad shooting & McBain's stickhandling. From there, it would be time with a trainer in the weight room for plyos/weights endurance/running, etc. - assuming they're old/mature enough to handle this, but even at younger ages kids can do something that is less intense and more geared towards youth...
ghshockeyfan wrote:OntheEdge wrote:I agree that burnout is something to watch out for. I've cut her schedule in the past only for her to complain that it wasn't enough. I think each kid is different. I've never forced her. She either picks the clinics or I present one and she decides whether or not she wants to do it. This spring she decided to work on the school play rather than play school ball in fastpitch which I thought was a good choice and allowed her to take a break. She plays fastpitch in the summer. She used to play soccer but it cut into hockey and fastpitch so she gave it up. In regards to the breakfast club I tried to get her enrolled but there aren't many openings and it always seems to be full.ghshockeyfan wrote:More than enough. She's busy. I'd be a little concerned about burnout unless she wants this level of activity, but only you collectively will know where she's at. Any other sports? Hopefully some other activities, etc. outside of hockey that are a change of pace but not overly time consuming either with the hockey scheudle already being amazing!...
Good balance and the right approach. I wasn't questioning her being pushed, but more just putting it out there for all to consider. When they ask for more or select what they want (with guidance) then that is best I believe. BC fills up FAST so understandable.OntheEdge wrote:I agree that burnout is something to watch out for. I've cut her schedule in the past only for her to complain that it wasn't enough. I think each kid is different. I've never forced her. She either picks the clinics or I present one and she decides whether or not she wants to do it. This spring she decided to work on the school play rather than play school ball in fastpitch which I thought was a good choice and allowed her to take a break. She plays fastpitch in the summer. She used to play soccer but it cut into hockey and fastpitch so she gave it up. In regards to the breakfast club I tried to get her enrolled but there aren't many openings and it always seems to be full.ghshockeyfan wrote:More than enough. She's busy. I'd be a little concerned about burnout unless she wants this level of activity, but only you collectively will know where she's at. Any other sports? Hopefully some other activities, etc. outside of hockey that are a change of pace but not overly time consuming either with the hockey scheudle already being amazing!...
hockeyrube7 wrote:Agreed hockeyrube7. This is my first chance to observe the process. While the process works hard to be fair I think that what you are saying does happen. I also think that some kids are left out due to other factors. I know of some girls that should be there that weren't selected. I don't know if the coach failed to nominate them or the process didn't work as it should but I think you are right that for the most part the Phase III girls will be deserving. However, I wonder how many girls that are missed and are excluded from Phase I could have made Phase II or Phase III. Probably not many but I would guess there are one or two every so often.MNHockeyFan wrote:Nicely worded MNH. Add to this a coach may feel his/her entire team did not preform at the level they should have, and sent no kids in do to this. Or on the other side, a coach that feels his/her team exceded expectations sends in 7 or 8 players for nomination. I have seen both. Either way, and in the end, most of the kids that go to Phase III, are usually the ones that would have gone anyway. There just seems to be some kids that deserve the "chance", and just don't get one.xwildfan wrote:I don't dispute what ghs is saying, that there are very few deserving players that get overlooked for Phase 1, but you certainly see how this MIGHT happen.
OntheEdge wrote:I will say that I don't believe kids that belong in Phase 3 will miss Phase 1 oportunity. It's just hard for me to believe that a kid that belongs at P3 wouldn't even get nominated by their coach, or not get the votes needed to get into P1, etc.hockeyrube7 wrote:Agreed hockeyrube7. This is my first chance to observe the process. While the process works hard to be fair I think that what you are saying does happen. I also think that some kids are left out due to other factors. I know of some girls that should be there that weren't selected. I don't know if the coach failed to nominate them or the process didn't work as it should but I think you are right that for the most part the Phase III girls will be deserving. However, I wonder how many girls that are missed and are excluded from Phase I could have made Phase II or Phase III. Probably not many but I would guess there are one or two every so often.MNHockeyFan wrote: Nicely worded MNH. Add to this a coach may feel his/her entire team did not preform at the level they should have, and sent no kids in do to this. Or on the other side, a coach that feels his/her team exceded expectations sends in 7 or 8 players for nomination. I have seen both. Either way, and in the end, most of the kids that go to Phase III, are usually the ones that would have gone anyway. There just seems to be some kids that deserve the "chance", and just don't get one.
Thanks "OntheEdge". And yes that is what I meant.OntheEdge wrote:Agreed hockeyrube7. This is my first chance to observe the process. While the process works hard to be fair I think that what you are saying does happen. I also think that some kids are left out due to other factors. I know of some girls that should be there that weren't selected. I don't know if the coach failed to nominate them or the process didn't work as it should but I think you are right that for the most part the Phase III girls will be deserving. However, I wonder how many girls that are missed and are excluded from Phase I could have made Phase II or Phase III. Probably not many but I would guess there are one or two every so often.