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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:19 pm
by kniven
Wow! Duluth East has 2 Mr. Hockey finalists and 12 Elite Leage players on their roster.....and a hall of fame head coach. Can you say, dominant!

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:53 pm
by hockey59
kniven wrote:Wow! Duluth East has 2 Mr. Hockey finalists and 12 Elite Leage players on their roster.....and a hall of fame head coach. Can you say, dominant!
And as Brad Pitt said in Moneyball - "If you lose the last game of the year, nobody cares (gives a sh-t)" :wink:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:56 pm
by MWS coach
hockey59 wrote:
kniven wrote:Wow! Duluth East has 2 Mr. Hockey finalists and 12 Elite Leage players on their roster.....and a hall of fame head coach. Can you say, dominant!
And as Brad Pitt said in Moneyball - "If you lose the last game of the year, nobody cares (gives a sh-t)" :wink:
This could be the best team ever to lose a quarterfinal game as the number 1 seed!

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:59 pm
by hadenuf
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN......(maybe) :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:09 pm
by kniven
hadenuf wrote:IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN......(maybe) :lol:
I was really, really, really, really hoping their would be a chance to see Duluth East and CEC in the section final. Seeing Amsoil sol out, 10,000+ would have been a sight. Oh well. So close to my dream matchup in the dream game -the right to represent 7 AA at the Minnesota State High School hockey tournament. That’s the game I want to see before I die :)

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:50 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:58 pm
by Usthockey13
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home :D

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:00 pm
by kniven
Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home :D
Has Elk River ever gone to state out of 7AA?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 pm
by Usthockey13
kniven wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote: Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home :D
Has Elk River ever gone to state out of 7AA?
Yes way back in 1999 with Paul Martin

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:12 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home :D
LOL! It is at the point you stop wondering if the Elks will win 7AA, you just wonder how bad of a crash and burn it will be this time.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:13 pm
by greenwayraider
They beat Hibbing in 3 overtimes. If memory serves me right the Hibbing goalie made 60+ saves.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:14 pm
by kniven
Usthockey13 wrote:
kniven wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote: Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home :D
Has Elk River ever gone to state out of 7AA?
Yes way back in 1999 with Paul Martin
That is a long, long time. I’m thinking Elk River hockey hates being in 7AA. I hope they get out soon

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:28 pm
by Usthockey13
oh do they ever. Yea i think they want out and the rest of the section wants them out too. They should get Brainerd back in 7AA

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:31 pm
by greenwayraider
Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:43 pm
by Usthockey13
greenwayraider wrote:Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.
Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:57 pm
by elliott70
Usthockey13 wrote:
greenwayraider wrote:Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.
Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.
Not 8, we have enough commie cidiots.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:08 pm
by BodyShots
elliott70 wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
greenwayraider wrote:Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.
Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.
Not 8, we have enough commie cidiots.
Be careful now. That's borderline bullying.... [-X

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:55 pm
by kniven
Duluth East (146.8) 5-1-1 20-2-3 5.4 1.9 Won 2
No. 12 Andover (120.6) 6-3-0 19-5-0 5.0 1.9 Won 3
No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 3-3-0 16-7-2 4.1 2.0 Won 3
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 2-2-0 17-7-0 4.8 2.6 Won 3
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 3-3-1 17-7-1 4.6 2.5 Lost 1
No. 25 Forest Lake (96.5) 3-3-0 13-10-1 2.4 2.5 Won 2
No. 47 St. Francis (69.7) 2-2-0 13-11-0 4.0 3.3 Lost 1
No. 48 Grand Rapids (69.6) 2-5-0 6-17-1 1.6 4.3 Won 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (30

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:00 pm
by elliott70
BodyShots wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote: Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.
Not 8, we have enough commie cidiots.
Be careful now. That's borderline bullying.... [-X
I have been accused of that...
my response is always the same, push 'em to the ground and walk over the top of them.
Nah, we love having Buffalo and Rogers.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:19 pm
by elliott70
kniven wrote:Duluth East (146.8) 5-1-1 20-2-3 5.4 1.9 Won 2
No. 12 Andover (120.6) 6-3-0 19-5-0 5.0 1.9 Won 3
No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 3-3-0 16-7-2 4.1 2.0 Won 3
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 2-2-0 17-7-0 4.8 2.6 Won 3
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 3-3-1 17-7-1 4.6 2.5 Lost 1
No. 25 Forest Lake (96.5) 3-3-0 13-10-1 2.4 2.5 Won 2
No. 47 St. Francis (69.7) 2-2-0 13-11-0 4.0 3.3 Lost 1
No. 48 Grand Rapids (69.6) 2-5-0 6-17-1 1.6 4.3 Won 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (30

No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 16-7-2
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 17-7-0
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 17-7-1

All within the tie breaker. Assuming ER does not gain or lose much in tonight's game.
Class
Current TM Projected TM*
AA 6.0 6.3

These are the Tiebreakers as agreed to by the MSHSL.
1 Head to Head percentage
2 Conference Record percentage (if same Conference/Sub-District)
3 Overall Record percentage
4 Section Record percentage (min number of Section games needed by 5 EACH team or #4 is skipped) Hockey - 6

use 1 then 3
then QRF then coin toss

DM lost to CEC

Overall record
Pct assuming ER wins tonight 72% if they lose 68 % if they tie 70%
DM 64%
CEC 70%

So if ER wins or ties they are the 3 seed
CEC is 4
unless ER loses then 3
DM is the 5.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:22 pm
by Traxler
elliott70 wrote:
kniven wrote:Duluth East (146.8) 5-1-1 20-2-3 5.4 1.9 Won 2
No. 12 Andover (120.6) 6-3-0 19-5-0 5.0 1.9 Won 3
No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 3-3-0 16-7-2 4.1 2.0 Won 3
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 2-2-0 17-7-0 4.8 2.6 Won 3
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 3-3-1 17-7-1 4.6 2.5 Lost 1
No. 25 Forest Lake (96.5) 3-3-0 13-10-1 2.4 2.5 Won 2
No. 47 St. Francis (69.7) 2-2-0 13-11-0 4.0 3.3 Lost 1
No. 48 Grand Rapids (69.6) 2-5-0 6-17-1 1.6 4.3 Won 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (30

No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 16-7-2
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 17-7-0
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 17-7-1

All within the tie breaker. Assuming ER does not gain or lose much in tonight's game.
Class
Current TM Projected TM*
AA 6.0 6.3

These are the Tiebreakers as agreed to by the MSHSL.
1 Head to Head percentage
2 Conference Record percentage (if same Conference/Sub-District)
3 Overall Record percentage
4 Section Record percentage (min number of Section games needed by 5 EACH team or #4 is skipped) Hockey - 6

use 1 then 3
then QRF then coin toss

DM lost to CEC

Overall record
Pct assuming ER wins tonight 72% if they lose 68 % if they tie 70%
DM 64%
CEC 70%

So if ER wins or ties they are the 3 seed
CEC is 4
unless ER loses then 3
DM is the 5.
You are a math wiz. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:36 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
I would like to see Elk River put in section 5 with their geographical rivals. It would be fun to see a Rapids vs Elk River State Tourney matchup someday.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:46 pm
by greenwayraider
I have a feeling that the teams currently in Section 5 are completely OK with Elk River and Andover being in Section 7.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:20 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
Interestingly yesterday Mike Randolph was quoted as saying last years top line for GR was not only better than the line with his son, Toninato, and Olson, but the most dominant line he’d ever seen in the tourney. Coming from the rival coach I think that puts to rest some crazy notion that East’s top line (good they are) is somehow on that same level as McLaughlin, Miller, and Hain.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:50 pm
by kniven
Elk River loosing to Armstrong Cooper late in the 3rd....