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Marauders08 you sound like a nice kid.

I think all of the adults in this forum will tell ya the same thing; we all make mistakes.

How one responds to their mistakes is how a person is defined.

By the looks of your post...you are defining yourself very well! Hopefully everyone else involved will do the same.

i was gona leave this subject alone and let by gones be by gones. however since everyone is so intrested and someone from river east decides to come on the board and flat out lie i better set the record straight. i have talked to the ref of this game and several eye wittnesses to the events of what mauraderso8 speaks of. first of all the ref of tweenty years told me he has never come across a more disrespectful group of kids in his life. he said pretty much every penalty he called would get reaction from the parents and lude comments from the kids. the kid who was removed from the game for throwing punches was out watching the game when the second fights got started and he was standing their scream f-ing kill him along with other lude comments when he was told to get back down in the dressing room. his reply was f-off. he was than asked again or he would have to leave the arena. he than went down stairs having a total fit throwing crap and just over all out of control and that is when the cops were called. when the game was called you had kids from river east calling out to parents from buffalo met me outside if you want some of this f-this and f-that... if i was from river east and involved in this incident i would advise not coming on this hockey board to talk about it. its bad enough that it happend dont make it any worse. the whole situation needs to be delt with in inside your organization. coming on here to lie and plead your case is not gona solve any problems. one other tid bit i did not include to make it very clear this player that was removed from the game was not touched in a rude or harsh manner by anyone. the only time someone even laid a finger on this kid is maybe a cop to get the kid out of the rink.

watchdog wrote:i was gona leave this subject alone and let by gones be by gones. however since everyone is so intrested and someone from river east decides to come on the board and flat out lie i better set the record straight. i have talked to the ref of this game and several eye wittnesses to the events of what mauraderso8 speaks of. first of all the ref of tweenty years told me he has never come across a more disrespectful group of kids in his life. he said pretty much every penalty he called would get reaction from the parents and lude comments from the kids. the kid who was removed from the game for throwing punches was out watching the game when the second fights got started and he was standing their scream f-ing kill him along with other lude comments when he was told to get back down in the dressing room. his reply was f-off. he was than asked again or he would have to leave the arena. he than went down stairs having a total fit throwing crap and just over all out of control and that is when the cops were called. when the game was called you had kids from river east calling out to parents from buffalo met me outside if you want some of this f-this and f-that... if i was from river east and involved in this incident i would advise not coming on this hockey board to talk about it. its bad enough that it happend dont make it any worse. the whole situation needs to be delt with in side your organization. coming on here to lie and plead your case is not gona solve any problems.

Let me start by saying I was not there.....but I do know the Buffalo kids and parents pretty well. The parents I talked to are still amazed by the actions of the River East team (players/coaches). In addition to the River East player, I believe one of their parents was removed also....Watchdog's description of the events more closely reflect what the Buffalo player/parents were telling me.

It is pretty sad a situation like this had to occur as the Roseau tournaments have been great to attend. Folks have forgotten it is just a game and respect for an opponent seems to be missing.

Interesting...

Watchdog's explaination is closer to the "story" I got and I was in Roseau but at the Civic Center. (It still amazes me that they have 3 rinks in a town of 2800...AWESOME!!!)

Let me tell you this much...Billy and Bobcat have a GREAT thing going with this tournament. IT WAS AWESOME...players, parents and coaches had a great time...

We have already told next years FIRE team to send the '94s to ROSEAU!

Hey...leave the canucks out, if they can not be good sports.

Billy...I gave my unused "chips" to a Dad on the '94 team....so have fun next year. (I'm jealous that I will not be there!)

Whoa, well, if you want to come out and tell me I flat out lied, thats fine. If i didn't clearly state before I apologize, but im sure I said im not totally sure what happened with one of our players that got ejected. For him swearing, that could be possible I just never knew about it. As for him throwing things around the room, that I cannot beleive. The room was untouched, left as it was and nothing was thrown around.

As for him being untouched, that is also something i greatly disagree with. He was almost if not in tears when we came down to the dressing room, doesn't that show something has been done? Also, 3 of the most shy kids on our team witnessed this man grabbing our player and then told our coach.

Watchdog, cut us some slack. Sure we are a rough team, but not all of our players are like that. We had a long weekend, we were frustrated, we wanted to go home. We werent neccesarily taught to play like that, but in our leauge, all of the teams are like that.

The rude comments made by the parents I have no idea about, the players could be possible. We arent used to an American game, the rules are completely different in Canada so we barely know what is a penalty and what isn't. You have to give us a break when we think something is a penalty because usually it wouldn't be in Canada.

I came on this forum to have some after-tournament communication and find out more about some of the teams. Not to be called a liar. And if you judge our teams actions and think all of us are like that, including me, thats not right.

You can beleive whatever you want, it won't change anything. But we aren't just a bunch of "goons" from Canada, we play hockey clean, and we play it fair.

We have had plenty of Canadian teams in our tournaments, as have Roseau, and we have never had this type of problem. To say this is how all of the teams in your league play is extremely unfair to the other organizations in your league.

If the team melts down and throws a fit on the ice, when things aren't going their way that is a problem. It is a problem with the players for acting that way, it is a problem with the coaches letting it happen and not teaching them how to handle adversity, and it is a problem with the parents for adding to the disaster from the stands.

Mauraders08, I commend you for coming on to this board and apologizing, but it should have been left at that. I am sure that Buffalo are no angels in this matter, but your teams actions are what stands out from this incident. The River East organization will have a very hard time finding tournaments in the US because of your teams actions in Roseau. Your team has ruined good experiences for future River East players. Your coaches should be sure to remind your team of the consequences of their actions and that these players are role models for future players in the River East organization and should represent accordingly.

Our team has apologized more than enough. We have been reminded. We have been spoken to by our coaches. Our manager has apologized many times to the Director of the tournament. I just came on this board to find out what was the score of the final game, when i came across some people wanting to know what happened.


I wasn't expected to be directed off the forum because of something my team did. The story that Watchdog has posted seems a little one sided, but all you guys wanted to know what happened. So I told you.

i'm not sure what the problem is here. i directed you not to talk about this topic any more. i dont know you or anyone else involved in this incident including the buffalo team. all i did was convey to those you were so willing to tell what ive been told from those that were their. i personally only witnessed a small part but it wasnt hard to put it together.

egf hockey1 wrote:I am sure that Buffalo are no angels in this matter

They sure are!

watchdog wrote:

i'm not sure what the problem is here. i directed you not to talk about this topic any more

WOW!! what is that about

Jackler wrote:watchdog wrote:

i'm not sure what the problem is here. i directed you not to talk about this topic any more

WOW!! what is that about

Dog simply tried to put everyone else on the same page rather than to go strictly by what the River East kid was saying. I've heard many versions, and most seem to be along the lines of what Watchdog has been saying. He merely told the kid to basically leave it alone, no sympathy for him or his team here, no matter how nice he is trying to appear to be. It should be a dead issue by now.

alright sure, its a dead issue. Whatever you say..

But can't you see all Im trying to portray is that Our team isn't a bad team like you all think we are?

Of course you can beleive the team from buffalo. We are Canadians that nobody knows about and you will believe what your fellow Americans say.

I get it.

Marauders08 wrote:alright sure, its a dead issue. Whatever you say..

But can't you see all Im trying to portray is that Our team isn't a bad team like you all think we are?

Of course you can beleive the team from buffalo. We are Canadians that nobody knows about and you will believe what your fellow Americans say.

I get it.

Now you're off base.....it hasn't been Buffalo people on this thread bashing the River East team...it has been "third party" contributors which, in my opinion, should carry more weight!

i know that americans arent prejudice against canadiens but alot of canadiens are!!!! their was an incident have a team meeting talk about how your going to improve on respecting refs from the parents to the kids and move on. noone is thinking about how bad river east is everyday. the only reason ive even thought about it is because you keep coming on the board and bringing it up. sh** happens! the coach sets the example and inforces the rules our bantam coach told us at the begining of the year i dont want to here one parent yell at a ref and if i see any kid talking back to a ref youll sit the rest of the game. than in turn the coach cant sit and yell at the ref either if their is a question you call them over and discuss it civilized like. problem solved. problems dont get solved if you cant look in the mirror. if all you guys can do is denie what happend to yourselves and pass blame to another things will continue on its current course.

Marauders08 wrote:alright sure, its a dead issue. Whatever you say..

But can't you see all Im trying to portray is that Our team isn't a bad team like you all think we are?

Of course you can beleive the team from buffalo. We are Canadians that nobody knows about and you will believe what your fellow Americans say.

I get it.

What I can see is that you're still trying to plead the case of an issue that's done. All you're doing now is enforcing other's points. As long as you continue to argue, you're showing the same tendencies that you said you and your team don't do. Let it go already.