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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:42 pm
by HockeyFan1
ehshockey wrote:siouxguy1679 wrote:God everyone who said Roseau is overrated should stop posting on this board. When you have Ness, Landman, and Lee you have a great team and all you Irish guys who think JT Brown is the best player in high school hockey, get real guys. He is a good player but Ness is so much better than him no question about it. Do you remember last years state tourney? The guy was the best player on the ice in every game.
The argument is Edina being better then roseau which they are easily if you have seen both teams play. If you compare Ness, Landman, and Lee to Edina's talent there is no argument that edina wins there and Edina proved more in the Minnetonka game then roseau has this whole seaon.
Roseau 4-2 Crookston 2-15-1 not a very impressive score for a team you want to rank #1. Roseau will just see how overrated they are when march roles along if they make it(which they should considering they are in the second easiest section).
Typical cake eater mentality...........
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:58 pm
by whatitdobaby
You can argue about who you think is the top 10 in state or who should be number one, but in all reality winning this argument is like winning the special olympics, even if you win you're still retarded.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:05 pm
by Circles
DasCondor wrote:joemagoo362 wrote:Hopkins did beat Minnetonka...
if you watched the games between these two teams, youd know whos better, the first game was a fluke
Both times they played each other Minnetonka had over 45 shots, they just ran into a hot goalie.
Rationalize all you want, the goalie is part of the team, having a better goalie is not a fluke.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:13 pm
by wbmd
Class AA Rankings
FollowThePuck.com
As of 02/04/08
1. Roseau (8AA) - 21-0-0
2. Edina (2AA) - 20-1-0
3. Minnetonka (6AA) - 18-3-0
4. Benilde-St. M's (6AA) - 19-3-0
5. Hill-Murray (4AA) - 17-3-1
6. Rosemount (3AA) - 17-4-0
7. Burnsville (2AA) 16-5-0
8. Hopkins (6AA) - 18-2-1
9. Bloom. Jefferson (2AA) -14-4-3
10. Blaine (5AA) - 14-5-0
11. Eden Prairie (6AA) - 14-5-2
12. Anoka (7AA) - 16-5-0
13. White Bear Lake (4AA) - 15-6-0
14. Eastview (3AA) - 13-6-2
15. Duluth East (7AA) - 13-7-1
16. Holy Angels Acad. (2AA) - 13-6-1
17. Centennial (5AA) - 12-7-2
18. Grand Rapids (7AA) - 11-8-1
19. Woodbury (3AA) - 16-6-0
20. Roseville Area (4AA) - 14-7-0
On Watch:
Moorhead (8AA) - 10-8-3
Brainerd/P/P (8AA) - 14-6-1
Osseo (5AA) - 13-7-0
Cloquet/E/C (7AA) - 11-9-2
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:53 pm
by who_b_dat
Those not wearing flannel will soon have our day to say those infamous words “They are who we thought they were.”
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:57 pm
by Neutron 14
who_b_dat wrote:Those not wearing flannel will soon have our day to say those infamous words “They are who we thought they were.”
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:08 pm
by hshockeyguy08
1.Edina
2.Benilde
3.Minnetonka
4.Hill
5.Roseau
6.Duluth East
7.burnsville
8.hopkins
9.Eden prairie
10.Rosemount
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:12 pm
by Bash Brother
1. Roseau
2. Benilde
3. Minnetonka
4. Edina
5. Hill
6. Rosemount
7. Hopkins
8. Duluth East
9. Eden prairie
10. Burnsville
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:30 pm
by hockeydude42
ehshockey wrote: Rankings are not about who is undeafeted and who won the state championship LAST SEASON they are about who is the best team and Roseau is not the best team.
I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I've been trying to make this point all season.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:43 pm
by who_b_dat
hockeydude42 wrote:ehshockey wrote: Rankings are not about who is undeafeted and who won the state championship LAST SEASON they are about who is the best team and Roseau is not the best team.
I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I've been trying to make this point all season.
Really? Must have been another bored. It looks like you just came to this opinion yesterday. Heck, here's what you said only a couple weeks ago...
hockeydude42 wrote:I don't think any of the teams have a real good shot at beating Roseau, but anything can happen. I'd like to see a state tourney matchup between them and a team like Tonka or Edina. After all, Tonka did beat them in a pre-season scrimmage.
Are you running for office FlipFlopper42?
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:44 pm
by Bash Brother
who_b_dat wrote:hockeydude42 wrote:ehshockey wrote: Rankings are not about who is undeafeted and who won the state championship LAST SEASON they are about who is the best team and Roseau is not the best team.
I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I've been trying to make this point all season.
Really? Must have been another bored. It looks like you just came to this opinion yesterday. Heck, here's what you said only a couple weeks ago...
hockeydude42 wrote:I don't think any of the teams have a real good shot at beating Roseau, but anything can happen. I'd like to see a state tourney matchup between them and a team like Tonka or Edina. After all, Tonka did beat them in a pre-season scrimmage.
Are you running for office FlipFlopper42?
Hey flipflopper. . . dont attempt to argue this. Just apologize and stop using the "bored"
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:01 pm
by hockeydude42
who_b_dat wrote:hockeydude42 wrote:ehshockey wrote: Rankings are not about who is undeafeted and who won the state championship LAST SEASON they are about who is the best team and Roseau is not the best team.
I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I've been trying to make this point all season.
Really? Must have been another bored. It looks like you just came to this opinion yesterday. Heck, here's what you said only a couple weeks ago...
hockeydude42 wrote:I don't think any of the teams have a real good shot at beating Roseau, but anything can happen. I'd like to see a state tourney matchup between them and a team like Tonka or Edina. After all, Tonka did beat them in a pre-season scrimmage.
Are you running for office FlipFlopper42?
If you look at the thread I posted that in "the teams" I was referring to were the ones in a poll that were on Roseau's remaining schedule, that being Bemidji, Moorhead, Crookston, St. Cloud Tech, Warroad, Brainerd, Thief River Falls, Blaine, International Falls, and Grand Rapids. All these teams are average at best and don't stand a chance against Roseau I think. I'm not saying Roseau is bad, I'm just saying I don't think they're a #1 team when they haven't really proved anything against a good team this year. I think they should be around the 3-5 spot for that reason.
Don't be stupid guys
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:02 pm
by O-townClown
42 & EHS - Roseau didn't lose much from last year so I don't know why you insist that Roseau hasn't beat anyone this season and that means Edina is vastly superior.
At the end of the season Roseau beat Moorhead and Grand Rapids. They obviously were good in the 2007 tournament. If they are that good this year they're clearly among the state's top one, two, or three teams.
If the San Antonio Spurs or Anaheim Ducks are dismissed as playoff contenders because they've lost some games this year it completely ignores the fact they have their rosters mostly intact and won last year.
Edina will be just fine. You don't have to disparage Roseau.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:02 pm
by hockeyfan43
ehshockey wrote:BIAFP wrote:ehshockey wrote:
Edina easlily has more talent then Roseau. Edina has Budish who is arguably better then Ness, Anders Lee, Marshall Everson, Connor Gaarder, Joe Gleason, Brenden Baker, and Derrick Caschetta in goal. Edina did prove more in that game because Roseau has not even played a top ten team in the state so how can the be considered the best in the state. Edina, Minnetinka, BSM, and Hill would probably all look better then Roseau with the teams Roseau plays. Rankings are not about who is undeafeted and who won the state championship LAST SEASON they are about who is the best team and Roseau is not the best team.
I think Edina is the better team. with that being said I have not seen the rams play this year so I can not judge them on there talent. Roseau is the number 1 until somebody proves otherwise
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:12 pm
by who_b_dat
Did 42 call his buddy 43? Here comes McHockeyLuvin44 to follow up
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:16 pm
by who_b_dat
By the way 42 - I'm just givin ya a hard time because when I did critique Roseau's #1 spot earlier this year, I got slammed and not too many people were in agreement. Your statement that you had been saying this all year caused me check to look and see if you in fact were out there a month or more ago.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:17 pm
by hockeyfan43
who_b_dat wrote:Did 42 call his buddy 43? Here comes McHockeyLuvin44 to follow up
no who i was on the other line
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:21 pm
by rbkhockey
Bash Brother wrote:1. Roseau
2. Benilde
3. Minnetonka
4. Edina
5. Hill
6. Rosemount
7. Hopkins
8. Duluth East
9. Eden prairie
10. Burnsville
K your possibly the dumbest person on the planet. Tonka over Edina! you nuts? They just beat Tonka 4-2 in a huge game. Tonka has what...3 losses one to Hopkins who is overrated and Eastview who Edina beat. Edina only has one loss. And are you joking with Duluth East and EP? Both of them should be in top 20 but ot top 10
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:33 pm
by hockeydude42
rbkhockey wrote:Bash Brother wrote:1. Roseau
2. Benilde
3. Minnetonka
4. Edina
5. Hill
6. Rosemount
7. Hopkins
8. Duluth East
9. Eden prairie
10. Burnsville
K your possibly the dumbest person on the planet. Tonka over Edina! you nuts? They just beat Tonka 4-2 in a huge game. And are you joking with Duluth East and EP? Both of them should be in top 20 but ot top 10
The Tonka-Edina game could have easily gone either way. It was back and forth the whole way until Edina got a 2 goal lead with a minute or so remaining. Both these teams are very solid and I look forward to them playing each other again in a few weeks.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:22 pm
by Duluth 4
haha east not in the top 10.. good joke.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:28 pm
by hockeyfan43
hockeydude42 wrote:rbkhockey wrote:Bash Brother wrote:1. Roseau
2. Benilde
3. Minnetonka
4. Edina
5. Hill
6. Rosemount
7. Hopkins
8. Duluth East
9. Eden prairie
10. Burnsville
K your possibly the dumbest person on the planet. Tonka over Edina! you nuts? They just beat Tonka 4-2 in a huge game. And are you joking with Duluth East and EP? Both of them should be in top 20 but ot top 10
The Tonka-Edina game could have easily gone either way. It was back and forth the whole way until Edina got a 2 goal lead with a minute or so remaining. Both these teams are very solid and I look forward to them playing each other again in a few weeks.
haha edina controlled the game and the
better team won
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:15 am
by Circles
hockeydude42 wrote:who_b_dat wrote:hockeydude42 wrote:
I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I've been trying to make this point all season.
Really? Must have been another bored. It looks like you just came to this opinion yesterday. Heck, here's what you said only a couple weeks ago...
hockeydude42 wrote:I don't think any of the teams have a real good shot at beating Roseau, but anything can happen. I'd like to see a state tourney matchup between them and a team like Tonka or Edina. After all, Tonka did beat them in a pre-season scrimmage.
Are you running for office FlipFlopper42?
If you look at the thread I posted that in "the teams" I was referring to were the ones in a poll that were on Roseau's remaining schedule, that being Bemidji, Moorhead, Crookston, St. Cloud Tech, Warroad, Brainerd, Thief River Falls, Blaine, International Falls, and Grand Rapids. All these teams are average at best and don't stand a chance against Roseau I think. I'm not saying Roseau is bad, I'm just saying I don't think they're a #1 team when they haven't really proved anything against a good team this year. I think they should be around the 3-5 spot for that reason.
HA! Talk about taking a quote out of context. Sounds like YOU are the one who could be running for office who-b-dat.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:59 am
by who_b_dat
But no one would know who I was...
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:37 am
by packerboy
Edina is having one of the greatest seasons any team has ever had.
They are 20-1 losing only to a Catholic team by one goal and playing a great schedule, one of the toughest in the state.
There are a dozen or more metro teams that could go undefeated playing Roseau's schedule. I think everbody would agree with that.
Its hard to say who the better team is but its easy to say who is having the better season.
The flannel shirt crowd clings to Roseau as their team and that's understandable, I mean, what else do they have?
But the more sophistcated metro area hockey people know better.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:39 am
by HockeyFan1
packerboy wrote:Edina is having one of the greatest seasons any team has ever had.
They are 20-1 losing only to a Catholic team by one goal and playing a great schedule, one of the toughest in the state.
There are a dozen or more metro teams that could go undefeated playing Roseau's schedule. I think everbody would agree with that.
Its hard to say who the better team is but its easy to say who is having the better season.
The flannel shirt crowd clings to Roseau as their team and that's understandable, I mean, what else do they have?
But the more sophistcated metro area hockey people know better.
Sophistcated - you mean more arrogant right? or did you mean sophisticated?