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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:18 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
Govs93 wrote:Would you slackers kindly hurry up and buy tickets to watch this exciting squad so I can sit home and throw things at my tv? There's a lot of hooplah surrounding them at them moment, so they'll probably go quick. :roll:

Thank you.
I'll be doing my part for ya Govs. I bought 50 tickets to the game (only because we had to if we wanted Packers tickets...)

:idea:

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:04 pm
by goldy313
I can't name one starter in the NFL I'd take Jackson over today. That said the coaching and play calling is terrible, they don't put him in positions to succeed; both games so far he's come out and had 7 or less pass attempts in the first half, you can't get into any kind of rythem with play calls like that. Jackson comes out and warms up, gets loose then has to wait 2-3 hours before being able to throw down field again. You don't warm up a pitcher, sit him down for 2 hours then expect him to throw strikes and get people out. Chilly expects that from Jackson, it is tough enough for the guy as it is but now Chilly tries to have him succeed with a cold arm, that is nonsense.

I'm also going to take a shot at the 82 million dollar man here, after the game Greg Coleman interviewed Jared Allen on the radio, Allen said everytime he could get a good rush on Manning he (Allen) was 5 yards deep in the backfield but Manning was only 4 yards deep and he (Allen ) just missed him. Hey, Genius maybe instead of taking the easy route and ending up a yard away and missing a sack or forcing Manning to get his walker out and move take the route to where Manning will be. FWIW Allen is also the guy who lost his lane and let Grant rumble for the huge chunk of change last week.

The Colts started 2 backups on their offensive line and lost a 3rd regular by halftime plus Peyton Maning couldn't move on his knees, he never was flushed from the pocket yet Minnesota with the highest paid and supposed best defensive line in football only managed 2 sacks. I wasn't a fan of the Allen trade to begin with as the Vikings payed a kings ransom in picks and salary cap room for him while Peterson will need to be locked up contractually and they have no QB.

Going into the season the biggest question marks the Vikings had were coaching and QB play, both are still well below par. Both these games nobody but the biggest Homer thought the Vikings would win anyhow so the Vikes are right where they should be, this weeks game is almost a must win though as Carolina will be a team the Vikings will need to contend with to make the playoffs and you just can't lose 2 home games and expect to make the playoffs with Vikings road schedule.

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:25 am
by Indians forever
Govs93 wrote:Would you slackers kindly hurry up and buy tickets to watch this exciting squad so I can sit home and throw things at my tv? There's a lot of hooplah surrounding them at them moment, so they'll probably go quick. :roll:

Thank you.
Sorry Govs, but I don't think they can even give them away...

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:28 am
by packerboy
Watching the Vikings............

Ill tell yah, It's Like A Nighmare.

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:29 pm
by Cornbread
Govs93 wrote:Brad Childress' approval rating?

5%.

Why so high?

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:21 pm
by sinbin006
A time for change :?: [-o<

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:03 am
by Indians forever
sinbin006 wrote:A time for change :?: [-o<
Childress should just stop talking and do it. otherwise it will be his A _ _ on the line.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:52 am
by sachishi4
this has got to be in zygis plan to have this team suck so bad so he can move them to LA

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:05 pm
by Govs93
sachishi4 wrote:this has got to be in zygis plan to have this team suck so bad so he can move them to LA
It would be a cunning ploy on his part...

Invest tons of dough on talented players, but then dilute them by keeping the sh!tty coach on the sidelines....

That sly dog. :lol:

It's an interesting point though... From everything I've read, the Vikes are really going to be pushing hard for the new stadium this legislative session, so you have to wonder how long of a leash Zygi will give Childress. He spent money and draft picks to get talented players in here, and nobody wants to support a loser.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:22 pm
by packerboy
They have "spent the money" ,although with the cap, doesnt everybody?

But anyway, too many good players have been signed for this team to play like it does.

Either they are signing the wrong guys or the coach isnt getting it out of them.

Unfortuntely, there is only one way to find out.

I would give Chilly the season but if they dont make the playoffs , yah gotta wonder whats up.

If I was the owner , Id have him in for a visit and I would ask him one question: "You were 2-13 in third down effeciency. Why the Boof isnt AP in the game for every 3rd down play. "

If his answer was anything other than: " We are going to change that", he'd be gone.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:24 pm
by Can't Never Tried
packerboy wrote:They have "spent the money" ,although with the cap, doesnt everybody?

But anyway, too many good players have been signed for this team to play like it does.

Either they are signing the wrong guys or the coach isnt getting it out of them.

Unfortuntely, there is only one way to find out.

I would give Chilly the season but if they dont make the playoffs , yah gotta wonder whats up.

If I was the owner , Id have him in for a visit and I would ask him one question: "You were 2-13 in third down effeciency. Why the Boof isnt AP in the game for every 3rd down play. "

If his answer was anything other than: " We are going to change that", he'd be gone.
Only because you need a dog to whip! :lol:

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:57 pm
by sachishi4

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:04 pm
by Govs93
packerboy wrote:They have "spent the money" ,although with the cap, doesnt everybody?
No.

NFL Team Payrolls
Rk Player Salary (US$)
1 49ers $118,553,806
2 Redskins $117,493,324
3 Saints $116,442,526
4 Patriots $115,912,728
5 Ravens $114,061,842
6 Lions $111,806,952
7 Cowboys $110,719,707
8 Rams $110,667,187
9 Browns $109,889,954
10 Jets $108,854,404
11 Raiders $106,783,622
12 Seahawks $106,235,789
13 Texans $105,742,754
14 Colts $105,435,316
15 Chargers $104,854,585
16 Titans $104,192,905
17 Bills $102,599,500
18 Steelers $101,679,653
19 Broncos $101,335,730
20 Bears $97,716,451
21 Eagles $96,759,089
22 Cardinals $96,125,590
23 Buccaneers $95,334,883
24 Chiefs $94,816,680
25 Vikings $94,466,630
26 Jaguars $93,426,384
27 Panthers $86,336,361
28 Giants $86,149,608
29 Packers $83,968,666
30 Falcons $80,170,168
31 Bengals $75,005,025
32 Dolphins $70,951,820

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/minne ... ngs/salary

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:11 pm
by Govs93
Hope he doesn't headbutt a wall and knock himself out again.

I would say that this is Chilly's Last Stand.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:21 pm
by OGEE OGELTHORPE
Change :D I bet the tickets will sell now.

Right Govs :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:24 pm
by Indians forever
Govs93 wrote:
sachishi4 wrote:this has got to be in zygis plan to have this team suck so bad so he can move them to LA
It would be a cunning ploy on his part...

Invest tons of dough on talented players, but then dilute them by keeping the sh!tty coach on the sidelines....

That sly dog. :lol:

It's an interesting point though... From everything I've read, the Vikes are really going to be pushing hard for the new stadium this legislative session, so you have to wonder how long of a leash Zygi will give Childress. He spent money and draft picks to get talented players in here, and nobody wants to support a loser.

IF that was his plan he would of just hired Denny Green...... :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:59 pm
by Indians forever
It's official TJ is out and Gus is in. HOT DAM..... SUPER BOWL BABY!!!!!!!!!!! \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:01 pm
by Can't Never Tried
Yep it's heaven alright went from 70% to 74% rated QB
ye flippin ha ! break out the expensive ripple honey! :roll:

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:03 pm
by Indians forever
Childress approval rating has to be 6% now after that move.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:32 pm
by sinbin006
Well, at least there's something to be proud of :roll:

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:41 pm
by east hockey
sinbin006 wrote:Well, at least there's something to be proud of :roll:
Bet Packer fans (#14) really liked that report. Image

Lee

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:00 am
by Govs93
Govs93 wrote:From everything I've read, the Vikes are really going to be pushing hard for the new stadium this legislative session, so you have to wonder how long of a leash Zygi will give Childress.

I'm taking credit for the first line under "Don't Print That" in Charley Walters' column today.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:22 pm
by Indians forever
I love this.....
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
An Open Letter to Brad Childress
by Gonzo on Sep 14, 2008 8:02 PM CDT in Vikings



Dear Brad Childress,

At one point of today's Vikings' game, a game that my Beloved Purple lost by a final score of 18-15, I honestly thought that the mighty Peyton Manning and company were going to come into our building and leave with a loss. I believe it was right after Ryan Longwell hit his fifth field goal of the afternoon, one that came from 28 yards out to make the score 15-0 in favor of the Vikings.

Yes, at that point, I thought that the Vikings were going to come out victorious and avoid the dreaded 0-2 start.

And then, the folks at CBS made the mistake of showing a shot of you on the sidelines.

It was at THAT point that I knew we were screwed.

See, prior to that point, the Vikings' defense had held Manning and Harrison and Wayne and Addai to zero points in 40+ minutes of football. It was the first time that the Colts had been shut out through the first half in almost two calendar years. He was harrassed, he was throwing interceptions, he was getting sacked, the crowd was electrified. At that point, Harrison and Wayne had a combined ONE catch for FOUR yards. Joseph Addai had NEGATIVE rushing yards.

But I knew that somehow. . .some way. . .that you, Brad Childress, creator of the prevent offense and master of losing close games in situations where you clearly should not, would find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this afternoon. And, clearly, you did not let me down.

Were you really so naive or arrogant (or both) enough to think that the Minnesota defense, as good as it is, was going to be able to stop Peyton Manning for an entire game? Did you really think that you could keep sending Ryan Longwell out there on possession after possession and have that be good enough to beat a team the caliber of the Indianapolis Colts? Did you think for one second that when you got the ball back on your own 2-yard line with less than two minutes left and Indianapolis having all three of their time outs that you could NOT EVEN MAKE AN EFFORT TO GET A FIRST DOWN and be able to just coast into overtime?

See, Mr. Childress, anyone that's watched the Vikings for any amount of time over the last 2+ years knows that these are the kind of games that you excel at losing. In this, your third season as the Vikings' head coach, you've been on the sidelines for 34 games. . .14 victories and 20 losses. Of those 20 losses, 13 of them have been by seven points or fewer, and in the majority of those games, the Vikings have had an opportunity to either tie or take the lead in the closing minutes. And they have not. . .and that's, largely, because of you.

I have never, ever, in my life seen a more unimaginative and more uncreative offense than the offense that I've seen from the Minnesota Vikings over your tenure as head coach. I think that a half a dozen of my readers, armed with nothing more than a copy of Madden '09, a case of Mountain Dew, and a few large pizzas, could put together a far more creative and far more coherent offensive game plan than what we've seen for the last 2+ years. Hell, Dan Dierdorf was calling the plays in the CBS booth before the ball was being snapped. . .and he was nailing it EVERY. . .SINGLE. . .TIME. If he knows what's coming, don't you think that everyone on the other sideline knows what's coming, too?

As of today, Adrian Peterson is on pace for 2,152 rushing yards. . .and 8 touchdowns. The fact that that guy can do anything in THIS offense is a testament to his unbelievable ability and talent, and it frightens me to think about what the guy would be capable of in an offense that could put up points in the Big Ten Conference, never mind the National Football League. I guess that there are some things that not even you are capable of screwing up. Lord knows that you've probably tried, but you haven't managed to do so yet.

Now, I'm sure that you're of the understanding that many people will attempt to place the blame for the offensive ineptitude at the feet of your quarterback, third-year player Tarvaris Jackson. And I'll admit that Jackson has had his struggles as a starting quarterback. He's immensely talented, but for some reason just doesn't seem to "have everything together." At least, that's how I'm sure it would look to an outsider. But how, exactly, do you expect the guy to "get it" with the way you run an offense?

In the season opener in Green Bay, the Vikings threw 7. . .SEVEN. . .passes in the first half. How in the heck is a quarterback supposed to develop any sort of rhythm when he only throws the ball seven times in one half of play? In today's game, young Jackson threw just nine passes in the first half, completing five, including two beauties at the end of the half to get the Vikings into position for. . .you guessed it. . .another field goal.

In addition to that, there is no "mid-range" passing game in this offense. At least, that's the impression I'm under. Every pass that you allow Jackson to throw is either a 3-yarder or an attempt at a 50-yarder. There's nothing in between. How on earth do you expect anyone to develop any sort of rhythm or rapport with their receivers if you're constantly expecting them to throw low percentage passes?

Oh, and do you think we could maybe mix in a play-action pass occasionally? I don't mean the type of play-action passes that you're used to, where our QBs and our RBs get within 4 yards of each other and try to make people think that anyone's going to buy that sort of crap. I mean a real, honest-to-goodness play-action pass. You'd think that with a running game that you haven't managed to screw up yet that this would be the foundation of our passing game, but it doesn't appear as though that's the case. It should be.

Finally, it's not just Tarvaris Jackson. Since you took over in Minnesota, Mr. Childress, there have been four different quarterbacks in charge of your alleged "kick-ass offense". . .Brad Johnson, Brooks Bollinger, Kelly Holcomb, and Tarvaris Jackson. And you know what I've noticed? They've ALL looked AWFUL. Even WITH the immense talents of Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor behind them. . .even WITH an outstanding offensive line in front of them. They've all looked terrible within the confines of your offense.

Most coaches tailor their offense to fit their personnel. You seem to be hell-bent on doing exactly the opposite.

And that's why I, alone in my thought process though I may be, refuse to throw Tarvaris Jackson under the proverbial bus at this point in time. It's clear that Jackson has talent. . .he's mobile, he's got a strong arm, and he appears to be a relatively bright guy. All of that stuff leads me to ask myself how much better he could be if he wasn't hamstrung by one of the most inept offenses I've ever had the displeasure to witness. Let the guy loose and let him make plays. We heard all off-season about his improvement and his progress. . .let him prove it on the field.

Don't get me wrong, Mr. Childress. . .I love my team. I always have. It's been a 25-year love affair with myself and the Minnesota Vikings, and even your ineptitude isn't going to be enough to change that. Therein lies the only small joy that I can derive from this. Either things will change and the team will get things turned around. . .or you'll continue to waste the immense talent that you've been surrounded with over your time in Minnesota, and you'll be standing in the unemployment line shortly after Week 17. In any event, it's a win-win situation for the Minnesota Vikings and their fans.

Mike Tice was fired by Zygi Wilf, and he accomplished far, far more with far, far less than you've been given in your time as the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. At this point, I would be more than happy to welcome ol' Meathead and his pencil back to the Minnesota sidelines in your stead.

Please. . .for the sake of everybody's sanity. . .get this together and pointed in the right direction.

Sincerely,
Christopher Gates
Head Blogger, DailyNorseman.com and lifelong Minnesota Viking fan

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:31 pm
by Can't Never Tried
Indians forever wrote:I love this.....
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
An Open Letter to Brad Childress
by Gonzo on Sep 14, 2008 8:02 PM CDT in Vikings



Dear Brad Childress,

At one point of today's Vikings' game, a game that my Beloved Purple lost by a final score of 18-15, I honestly thought that the mighty Peyton Manning and company were going to come into our building and leave with a loss. I believe it was right after Ryan Longwell hit his fifth field goal of the afternoon, one that came from 28 yards out to make the score 15-0 in favor of the Vikings.

Yes, at that point, I thought that the Vikings were going to come out victorious and avoid the dreaded 0-2 start.

And then, the folks at CBS made the mistake of showing a shot of you on the sidelines.

It was at THAT point that I knew we were screwed.

See, prior to that point, the Vikings' defense had held Manning and Harrison and Wayne and Addai to zero points in 40+ minutes of football. It was the first time that the Colts had been shut out through the first half in almost two calendar years. He was harrassed, he was throwing interceptions, he was getting sacked, the crowd was electrified. At that point, Harrison and Wayne had a combined ONE catch for FOUR yards. Joseph Addai had NEGATIVE rushing yards.

But I knew that somehow. . .some way. . .that you, Brad Childress, creator of the prevent offense and master of losing close games in situations where you clearly should not, would find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this afternoon. And, clearly, you did not let me down.

Were you really so naive or arrogant (or both) enough to think that the Minnesota defense, as good as it is, was going to be able to stop Peyton Manning for an entire game? Did you really think that you could keep sending Ryan Longwell out there on possession after possession and have that be good enough to beat a team the caliber of the Indianapolis Colts? Did you think for one second that when you got the ball back on your own 2-yard line with less than two minutes left and Indianapolis having all three of their time outs that you could NOT EVEN MAKE AN EFFORT TO GET A FIRST DOWN and be able to just coast into overtime?

See, Mr. Childress, anyone that's watched the Vikings for any amount of time over the last 2+ years knows that these are the kind of games that you excel at losing. In this, your third season as the Vikings' head coach, you've been on the sidelines for 34 games. . .14 victories and 20 losses. Of those 20 losses, 13 of them have been by seven points or fewer, and in the majority of those games, the Vikings have had an opportunity to either tie or take the lead in the closing minutes. And they have not. . .and that's, largely, because of you.

I have never, ever, in my life seen a more unimaginative and more uncreative offense than the offense that I've seen from the Minnesota Vikings over your tenure as head coach. I think that a half a dozen of my readers, armed with nothing more than a copy of Madden '09, a case of Mountain Dew, and a few large pizzas, could put together a far more creative and far more coherent offensive game plan than what we've seen for the last 2+ years. Hell, Dan Dierdorf was calling the plays in the CBS booth before the ball was being snapped. . .and he was nailing it EVERY. . .SINGLE. . .TIME. If he knows what's coming, don't you think that everyone on the other sideline knows what's coming, too?

As of today, Adrian Peterson is on pace for 2,152 rushing yards. . .and 8 touchdowns. The fact that that guy can do anything in THIS offense is a testament to his unbelievable ability and talent, and it frightens me to think about what the guy would be capable of in an offense that could put up points in the Big Ten Conference, never mind the National Football League. I guess that there are some things that not even you are capable of screwing up. Lord knows that you've probably tried, but you haven't managed to do so yet.

Now, I'm sure that you're of the understanding that many people will attempt to place the blame for the offensive ineptitude at the feet of your quarterback, third-year player Tarvaris Jackson. And I'll admit that Jackson has had his struggles as a starting quarterback. He's immensely talented, but for some reason just doesn't seem to "have everything together." At least, that's how I'm sure it would look to an outsider. But how, exactly, do you expect the guy to "get it" with the way you run an offense?

In the season opener in Green Bay, the Vikings threw 7. . .SEVEN. . .passes in the first half. How in the heck is a quarterback supposed to develop any sort of rhythm when he only throws the ball seven times in one half of play? In today's game, young Jackson threw just nine passes in the first half, completing five, including two beauties at the end of the half to get the Vikings into position for. . .you guessed it. . .another field goal.

In addition to that, there is no "mid-range" passing game in this offense. At least, that's the impression I'm under. Every pass that you allow Jackson to throw is either a 3-yarder or an attempt at a 50-yarder. There's nothing in between. How on earth do you expect anyone to develop any sort of rhythm or rapport with their receivers if you're constantly expecting them to throw low percentage passes?

Oh, and do you think we could maybe mix in a play-action pass occasionally? I don't mean the type of play-action passes that you're used to, where our QBs and our RBs get within 4 yards of each other and try to make people think that anyone's going to buy that sort of crap. I mean a real, honest-to-goodness play-action pass. You'd think that with a running game that you haven't managed to screw up yet that this would be the foundation of our passing game, but it doesn't appear as though that's the case. It should be.

Finally, it's not just Tarvaris Jackson. Since you took over in Minnesota, Mr. Childress, there have been four different quarterbacks in charge of your alleged "kick-ass offense". . .Brad Johnson, Brooks Bollinger, Kelly Holcomb, and Tarvaris Jackson. And you know what I've noticed? They've ALL looked AWFUL. Even WITH the immense talents of Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor behind them. . .even WITH an outstanding offensive line in front of them. They've all looked terrible within the confines of your offense.

Most coaches tailor their offense to fit their personnel. You seem to be hell-bent on doing exactly the opposite.

And that's why I, alone in my thought process though I may be, refuse to throw Tarvaris Jackson under the proverbial bus at this point in time. It's clear that Jackson has talent. . .he's mobile, he's got a strong arm, and he appears to be a relatively bright guy. All of that stuff leads me to ask myself how much better he could be if he wasn't hamstrung by one of the most inept offenses I've ever had the displeasure to witness. Let the guy loose and let him make plays. We heard all off-season about his improvement and his progress. . .let him prove it on the field.

Don't get me wrong, Mr. Childress. . .I love my team. I always have. It's been a 25-year love affair with myself and the Minnesota Vikings, and even your ineptitude isn't going to be enough to change that. Therein lies the only small joy that I can derive from this. Either things will change and the team will get things turned around. . .or you'll continue to waste the immense talent that you've been surrounded with over your time in Minnesota, and you'll be standing in the unemployment line shortly after Week 17. In any event, it's a win-win situation for the Minnesota Vikings and their fans.

Mike Tice was fired by Zygi Wilf, and he accomplished far, far more with far, far less than you've been given in your time as the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. At this point, I would be more than happy to welcome ol' Meathead and his pencil back to the Minnesota sidelines in your stead.

Please. . .for the sake of everybody's sanity. . .get this together and pointed in the right direction.

Sincerely,
Christopher Gates
Head Blogger, DailyNorseman.com and lifelong Minnesota Viking fan
Honorary cafe member for that! I say!
If I could think of that much at one time I would have said something very similar :lol:

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:05 pm
by sachishi4
that was great

as a packer fan, this thread is just great every day!