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Updated 12/11 PM

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:40 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/11 PM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, December 10, 2011
Park Rapids Area vs. Eveleth-Gilbert
Willmar vs. St. Peter/L-H/M-L

Updated 12/12 5PM

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:43 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/12 5PM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/13 AM

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:44 am
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/13 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/14 AM

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 am
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/14 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Tue, December 13, 2011
LPGE/WDC vs. Morris/Benson Area
North Metro 0 vs. Maple Grove 6 - just not updated yet
Willmar vs. Alexandria
St. Cloud vs. River Lakes
Austin vs. Northfield
South St. Paul 4 vs. Henry Sibley 1 - just not updated yet
Forest Lake vs. East Ridge

Updated 12/14 5PM

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:44 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/14 5PM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Tue, December 13, 2011
LPGE/WDC 6 vs. Morris/Benson Area 2 - just not updated yet
Forest Lake 2 vs. East Ridge 2 - just not updated yet

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:36 pm
by cdhparent
Whoever runs the power rankings has the CDH record wrong. CDH is 7-3-1, not 6-4-1.

Wins = No. St. Paul, Shakopee, St. Paul United, Woodbury, Simley, East Ridge, Hastings.
Losses = WBL, Roseville, Mounds View.
Tie = Eagan.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:50 pm
by ghshockeyfan
cdhparent wrote:Whoever runs the power rankings has the CDH record wrong. CDH is 7-3-1, not 6-4-1.

Wins = No. St. Paul, Shakopee, St. Paul United, Woodbury, Simley, East Ridge, Hastings.
Losses = WBL, Roseville, Mounds View.
Tie = Eagan.
I'll look into it. Must be an issue with a score inversion. Thanks for the heads-up!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:57 pm
by ghshockeyfan
ghshockeyfan wrote:
cdhparent wrote:Whoever runs the power rankings has the CDH record wrong. CDH is 7-3-1, not 6-4-1.

Wins = No. St. Paul, Shakopee, St. Paul United, Woodbury, Simley, East Ridge, Hastings.
Losses = WBL, Roseville, Mounds View.
Tie = Eagan.
I'll look into it. Must be an issue with a score inversion. Thanks for the heads-up!
I'm guessing the first score in the list below is inverted based on the list you provided and what is on the HUB:
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/schedul ... ason=49295

I'm asking that MN Scores correct this:
CDH:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/teamsch ... 0&tid=2201

DATE TIME VS RESULT SCORE F=Final
Tue, Nov 15 7:30 PM vs. North St. Paul L 7-2 F
Thu, Nov 17 7:00 PM at Shakopee W 11-7 F
Sat, Nov 19 2:00 PM vs. St. Paul United W 3-2 F
Tue, Nov 22 7:30 PM vs. White Bear Lake L 2-1 F
Tue, Nov 29 7:30 PM at Woodbury W 3-0 F
Thu, Dec 1 7:30 PM vs. Eagan T 2-2 F/OT
Sat, Dec 3 7:30 PM at Roseville L 4-0 F
Tue, Dec 6 7:30 PM vs. Mounds View L 4-3 F
Thu, Dec 8 7:30 PM at Simley W 4-2 F
Sat, Dec 10 7:30 PM vs. East Ridge W 2-0 F
Tue, Dec 13 7:30 PM at Hastings W 4-2 F
This will impact KRACH & QRF as they draw from the same results but are different ranking algorithms.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:07 pm
by ghshockeyfan
The CDH scenario is a great sanity check. Data corruption will make the rankings useless (garbage in => garbage out) and in the CDH case will impact both QRF and KRACH since they draw from the same set of data.

All records should be accurate as another poster mentioned a couple days back. The only differences should be NOT counting non-MSHSL games - e.g. playing a team from WI/ND/SD/Canada or even the Shattuck game for BSM recently doesn't count in the KRACH rankings or records reflected here:

http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm

SOS explained...

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:12 pm
by ghshockeyfan
I recieved some questions about Strength-of-Schedule (a.k.a. SOS). Here's a bit of detail as to how KRACH is used to calculate this:
SOS, or strength-of-schedule, is determined by averaging the current rankings of the opponents for a given team to-date. That is, if you play four teams of rankings 1, 9, 50, and 100, then your average is (1+9+40+50)/4 = 100/4 = 25. This calculation is made for all teams and they are then ranked in ascending order (i.e. lower SOS “average” value is better – it implies that you are playing the higher ranked teams).

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:16 pm
by cdhparent
Thanks

Just to add to the fact checking point, two of the scores are wrong too. Shakopee was 8-6 W, and Woodbury was a 7-1 W. Not that it matters, just in case the site you were getting the info from was wrong for other teams too. I doubt the scores matter, just wanted to let you know.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:55 pm
by ghshockeyfan
cdhparent wrote:Thanks

Just to add to the fact checking point, two of the scores are wrong too. Shakopee was 8-6 W, and Woodbury was a 7-1 W. Not that it matters, just in case the site you were getting the info from was wrong for other teams too. I doubt the scores matter, just wanted to let you know.
Not a problem and glad someone is catching these sorts of things. Looks like MN Scores made the NSP score inversion update. I will request the other score fixes now. They won't impact the QRF or KRACH - but it is nice to have the scores be correct

Updated 12/15 AM

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:17 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/15 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/15 5PM

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:45 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/15 5PM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/16 AM

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:17 am
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/16 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Thu, December 15, 2011
St. Louis Park 2 vs. St. Francis/North Branch 1 - just not updated yet
Alexandria 16 vs. Morris/Benson Area 0 - just not updated yet
Owatonna 5 vs. Albert Lea 0 - just not updated yet
SB/TH/CC/Ely/NE Range 7 vs. Moose Lake Area 4 - just not updated yet

Updated 12/16 6PM

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:36 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/16 6PM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/17 AM

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:34 am
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/17 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Fri, December 16, 2011
Hutchinson vs. Rogers

Updated 12/18 AM

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:13 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/18 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, December 17, 2011
Eveleth-Gilbert 4 vs. Lake of the Woods 1 - not posted yet
Mound-Westonka vs. Pequot Lakes
Hutchinson 0 vs. Orono 8 - not posted yet
Willmar 6 vs. Marshall 0 - not posted yet
Hastings 2 vs. Woodbury 1 - not posted yet
Mankato East/Loyola 7 vs. Austin 1 - not posted yet

Updated 12/18 NOON

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:47 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/18 NOON:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, December 17, 2011
Mound-Westonka vs. Pequot Lakes

Updated 12/19 AM

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:58 am
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/19 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/20 AM

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:35 am
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/20 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE!!!

Updated 12/21 AM

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:12 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/21 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:

Tue, December 20, 2011
Worthington/Fulda/Spirit Lake 1 vs. Fairmont 5 - just not updated yet

Updated 12/21 PM

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:17 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/21 PM:

Re-run due to a score being wrong from Mankato East/Albert Lea game when calculated this AM. Now fixed.

No Score Reported for These Games:

Tue, December 20, 2011
Worthington/Fulda/Spirit Lake 1 vs. Fairmont 5 - just not updated yet
*Scores for tonight 12/21 are not yet in either...

Updated 12/22 - NO UPDATE

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:24 am
by ghshockeyfan
KRACH DID NOT HAVE AN UPDATE ON 12/22 BECAUSE THE FEW SCORES FROM THE 21ST WERE NOT UPDATED UNTIL LATE ON THE 22ND OR UNTIL THE 23RD (TODAY).

THERE WILL BE AN UPDATE THIS AM WITH THE SCORES THAT ARE IN AS OF ITS EXECUTION. THE SCORES THAT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS AM EXECUTION ARE:

http://www.minnesota-scores.net/scorebo ... &sport=110

Thu, December 22, 2011
Moose Lake Area vs. Princeton
Pequot Lakes vs. Hibbing/Chisholm
St. Paul United 3 vs. Simley 0 - just not updated yet
Wayzata vs. Cretin-Derham Hall

Scores can always be submitted directly to:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

***Or*** you can call or text 218-422-MINN (6466)
and leave all of the important information.

Important Info includes:
Game Date
Sport
Visitor Team*/Score
Home Team*/Score
*Please include the STATE if the team is not from Minnesota!

Updated 12/23 AM

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:33 pm
by ghshockeyfan
Updated 12/23 AM:

Note that there is possibly a wrong score for the Chaska/Orono game in this ranking. MN Scores has it as a 3-0 W for Orono and Hub has 6-5 W for Chaska. Once sorted out, rankings will be updated as needed.
Missing Scores:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/scorebo ... &sport=110

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27318

http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

***Or*** you can call or text 218-422-MINN (6466)
and leave all of the important information.

Important Info includes:
Game Date
Sport
Visitor Team*/Score
Home Team*/Score
*Please include the STATE if the team is not from Minnesota!
No Score Reported for These Games:

Thu, December 22, 2011
Moose Lake Area vs. Princeton
Pequot Lakes 1 vs. Hibbing/Chisholm 4 - just not updated yet
St. Paul United 3 vs. Simley 0 - just not updated yet
Wayzata 6 vs. Cretin-Derham Hall 2 - just not updated yet

Most Recent Ranking Links:
==========================================
OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC.htm
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS.htm
==========================================

Past rankings are at:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

Also see MN Hockey Hub for rankings and more info.:
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/sh ... h-rankings