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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:19 pm
by Stang5280
Sparlimb wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:30 pm
WestMetro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:37 pm
Galatz , Hallum , Ratzlaff, Pierce
Probably more still to add
Talk on the Gopher board is that Ratzlaff might still go with football and is a Badger lean if he goes that route. Can't recall if Rosemount is opting out, but I assume that could change whether he plays this year or not...
Ratzlaff previously stated in a news article (see earlier in thread) that he was playing for the Gamblers. Strangely, however, I see that he is listed on the Rosemount football roster. Perhaps that signals a change of heart?
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:51 pm
by WestMetro
Saw a tweet tonite about Pierce being a Htown captain, so I guess we can figure he will be an :
Elite Velocity >Wilderness>Htown>Wilderness B and A?
Anything goes in 2020?
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:18 am
by BP
Stang5280 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:19 pm
Sparlimb wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:30 pm
WestMetro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:37 pm
Galatz , Hallum , Ratzlaff, Pierce
Probably more still to add
Talk on the Gopher board is that Ratzlaff might still go with football and is a Badger lean if he goes that route. Can't recall if Rosemount is opting out, but I assume that could change whether he plays this year or not...
Ratzlaff previously stated in a news article (see earlier in thread) that he was playing for the Gamblers. Strangely, however, I see that he is listed on the Rosemount football roster. Perhaps that signals a change of heart?
Stang - he is playing for Rosemount Football. After they are done - he is playing for GB. He won't be back for hockey at RHS.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:08 pm
by Stang5280
BP wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:18 am
Stang - he is playing for Rosemount Football. After they are done - he is playing for GB. He won't be back for hockey at RHS.
Thanks for the clarification, BP. That makes sense. Being a two sport recruit is already complicated enough to juggle, but the flip-flop with the football season makes things even more difficult. It looks like Rosemount will be losing a good chunk of their talent to the USHL.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:26 pm
by InThePipes
Stang5280 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:08 pm
BP wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:18 am
Stang - he is playing for Rosemount Football. After they are done - he is playing for GB. He won't be back for hockey at RHS.
Thanks for the clarification, BP. That makes sense. Being a two sport recruit is already complicated enough to juggle, but the flip-flop with the football season makes things even more difficult. It looks like Rosemount will be losing a good chunk of their talent to the USHL.
Yeah, Ratzlaff, Levendowski and Stramel, that's quite a hit to the roster.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:51 pm
by WestMetro
Should add Tucker Ness to the possible list, hasnt been at Elite League recently, in Waterloo I believe
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:16 am
by WestMetro
Article in the Rink Live this week . Joe Miller :
“I’m planning on staying in Chicago,” he said this week. “With high school, there’s so much uncertainty about the state tournament, and with an 18-game schedule, I think this is best for me. I’m ready to take the next step. I love it down here, I love the guys, and the coaches are great. So I think it’s best for me to stay in the USHL for the year.”
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:46 am
by InThePipes
WestMetro wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:16 am
Article in the Rink Live this week . Joe Miller :
“I’m planning on staying in Chicago,” he said this week. “With high school, there’s so much uncertainty about the state tournament, and with an 18-game schedule, I think this is best for me. I’m ready to take the next step. I love it down here, I love the guys, and the coaches are great. So I think it’s best for me to stay in the USHL for the year.”
Good for him, hard to argue with anything he stated.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:56 am
by goldy313
USA hockey Tier 3 is playing 40-50 game schedule. The Rochester Grizzlies play 8 games in October and have 8 scheduled in November so far. Good gracious why play 18 games in high school when you can 50 in Tier 3?
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:45 am
by InThePipes
goldy313 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:56 am
USA hockey Tier 3 is playing 40-50 game schedule. The Rochester Grizzlies play 8 games in October and have 8 scheduled in November so far. Good gracious why play 18 games in high school when you can 50 in Tier 3?
The fall leagues close the gap quite a bit, but I hear you to an extent.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:45 am
by ironranger2
goldy313 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:56 am
USA hockey Tier 3 is playing 40-50 game schedule. The Rochester Grizzlies play 8 games in October and have 8 scheduled in November so far. Good gracious why play 18 games in high school when you can 50 in Tier 3?
My initial response was going to be that the Tier 3 has legal adults (18+) playing, but that isn't necessarily true. They have 16 and 17 year old kids playing as well.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:56 am
by Cookster
There might be a couple of kids that Play Juniors until Dec 1st, come back tor what ever season we have, and then go back after sections/state. They could get in 15ish games Oct, play 18-24 games in HS, and then 10-15 games after, Not ideal, but still get in 40-50 games.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:11 pm
by edgeless2
Cookster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:56 am
There might be a couple of kids that Play Juniors until Dec 1st, come back tor what ever season we have, and then go back after sections/state. They could get in 15ish games Oct, play 18-24 games in HS, and then 10-15 games after, Not ideal, but still get in 40-50 games.
Outside of top high end talent, Junior teams generally do not encourage this. I imagine with the uptick in talent with several programs not playing, it would make this more difficult in Covid times. I can see it playing out if our HS kids make these Junior teams they may stay vs a normal year. Especially with the uncertainty around State.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:50 am
by goldy313
This is garbage. Look at the schedules posted. The MSHSL is not offering anything. JR Gold will be a better league.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:06 am
by blueblood
With no disrespect to Jr Gold and the Metro League, it will not be better than the HS games that all teams are rebuilding for this season.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:04 pm
by Wise Old Man
ironranger2 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:45 am
goldy313 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:56 am
USA hockey Tier 3 is playing 40-50 game schedule. The Rochester Grizzlies play 8 games in October and have 8 scheduled in November so far. Good gracious why play 18 games in high school when you can 50 in Tier 3?
My initial response was going to be that the Tier 3 has legal adults (18+) playing, but that isn't necessarily true. They have 16 and 17 year old kids playing as well.
Goldy, don't forget that most of the Tier III kids pay at least $3,000 to play, and as much as $6,000. That tends to limit the number of kids/parents who will play.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:02 pm
by WestMetro
On the Podcast today, YHH listed the following kids as Very Very Likely Early Departs, regardless of what MSHSL may ultimately decide on Dec 3:
Joe Miller
Jackson Blake
Luke Levankowski
Griffin Luedtke
Layton Liffrig
Max Burkholder
Lleyton Roed
Jackson Borst
Loudon Hogg
Christian Galatz
Jake Ratzlaff
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:06 pm
by WestMetro
The podcast mentioned a next group of kids whose decisions, high school vs elsewhere, were probably still waiting for further info/developments from MSHSL, MDH, School Boards, Etc
Luke Middlestadt
Mason Langenbrunner
Jackson Hallum
Jack Peart
Joe Palodichuk
Henry Nelson
Dylan Godbout
Jimmy Clark
Nick Williams
Tucker Ness
Joey Pierce
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:16 pm
by Cookster
For those that were in USHL camps, they have released their rosters for the season. Several kids who were in camps are not on the rosters, indicating they are probably headed back to HS
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:55 pm
by Stang5280
Here are the USHL early departures I could find on a preliminary scan through the rosters. Chicago’s roster does not appear to be final yet, and they could have a few given the number of Minnesotans on the roster. Still, this is a fairly low number of early departures compared to how many kids were in camps.
Dubuque
Max Burkholder
Fargo
Jack Peart
Green Bay
No Jake Ratzlaff?!
Sioux City
Nick Pierre
Mason Langenbrunner
Griffin Ludtke
Waterloo
Tucker Ness
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:03 pm
by WestMetro
Congrats to all!
Especially noteworthy Tucker Ness , very few had this on their radar screen six months ago
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:15 pm
by Stang5280
I am wondering if Ratzlaff is looking at spring enrollment for football if he isn’t playing for Green Bay.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:17 pm
by InThePipes
Stang5280 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:55 pm
Here are the USHL early departures I could find on a preliminary scan through the rosters. Chicago’s roster does not appear to be final yet, and they could have a few given the number of Minnesotans on the roster. Still, this is a fairly low number of early departures compared to how many kids were in camps.
Dubuque
Max Burkholder
Fargo
Jack Peart
Green Bay
No Jake Ratzlaff?!
Sioux City
Nick Pierre
Mason Langenbrunner
Griffin Ludtke
Waterloo
Tucker Ness
Pandemic “push down” impact is very notable this year.
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:10 pm
by WestMetro
Chicago Steel
Blake
Levandowski
Miller
Re: Early Departures 2020-2021
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:37 pm
by Stang5280
NAHL early departures
Bismarck
Jon Bell
Chase Beacom
Magicians
Lleyton Roed
Wilderness
Christian Galatz
Joey Pierce (before & after?)
New Jersey
Louden Hogg
St. Cloud
Noah Griswold
Again, lower than I expected. As InThePipes said, there is a definite “push down” effect this season. I noticed a lot of 2000 birthdates on the rosters, including a number of D1 commits. Things are tough out there in the junior landscape.