Re: The Hermantown Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:06 pm
It is so entertaining when someone tries to defend Hermantown. Jeffy95 and/or ranier2 just eviscerate them.
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And ME toogreenwayraider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:06 pm It is so entertaining when someone tries to defend Hermantown. Jeffy95 and/or ranier2 just eviscerate them.
I love it.greenwayraider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:06 pm It is so entertaining when someone tries to defend Hermantown. Jeffy95 and/or ranier2 just eviscerate them.
Not in Class A. This is the problem. Teams in metro areas getting transfers and open enrollees, but still having a small enough "enrollment" to stay in A. Community hockey programs don't have this luxury. Where will TRF or I-Falls get their transfers from? Does Moose Lake or Marshall have 200,000+ people that live within a short drive to help re-stock their talent every year, like the teams in Duluth, St. Cloud, or the Twin Cities do?Yoopskater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:43 pm People got tired of the Patriots winning all the time, Alabama football, almost any team that consistently wins will have haters. If Hermantown goes up, the same whiners will move on to Cathedral or whoever else takes over the top spot. After all, this is Minnesota HS hockey and transfers abound. Somehow it is ok for other teams to gain transfers but not Hermantown....it is either all bad or none of it is bad. Go Hawks!
Hermantown BantamAA. How many transfers on that squad or is it all local Hermantown boys?
Not a lot by Hermantown Standards actually. Only 4 skaters and the Goalie, that I’m aware of. I’m sure they’ll add a couple more. #2 in State with only one loss to the #1. Probably their best group yet. Gonna be real fun watching them in the Class A tourney in a few years. They will have to play a full regular season AA schedule with that group.
Looks like Denfeld's window for making it to state may be next year only, and then that Hermantown class will be juniors/sophomores.Jeffy95 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:58 pmNot a lot by Hermantown Standards actually. Only 4 skaters and the Goalie, that I’m aware of. I’m sure they’ll add a couple more. #2 in State with only one loss to the #1. Probably their best group yet. Gonna be real fun watching them in the Class A tourney in a few years. They will have to play a full regular season AA schedule with that group.
PeeWee AA has 5 skaters, including the top 3 on the team.
zooomx wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:13 am Why did Hermantown cross the road?
It didn't... it was too chicken.
A Hermantown dad, a Moose Lake dad, and a Proctor dad each walk into a rough bar. Who walks out?
Three Hermantown dads
Ah... just having fun. I have commented all I care to on this topic. Have fun guys.
Wow. The three Hermantown dad one made me chuckle. That is so funny. Good stuff.....TwinCitiesImport wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:26 amzooomx wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:13 am Why did Hermantown cross the road?
It didn't... it was too chicken.
A Hermantown dad, a Moose Lake dad, and a Proctor dad each walk into a rough bar. Who walks out?
Three Hermantown dads
Ah... just having fun. I have commented all I care to on this topic. Have fun guys.This one made me laugh out loud at work, Thank you for that!
BIG FAN of this post right here. Well done young man!rainier2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:17 pmWhy hate? Here's a few reasons:
A program that plays AA from squirts through HS regular season, beats/plays tight with the AA champ every year, and has arena rafters that sag under the weight of single A banners, yet it's still not enough to move up. Greed
A program whose coach and fans complained loudly about metro privates drawing top talent from AA-sized areas yet having enrollments small enough to qualify for A, yet now they are doing the exact same thing themselves. Hypocrisy
A program whose exploitation of the rules has distorted reality for expectations of Class A teams, hence we see clueless statements like "just beat them". TRF, Luverne, I-Falls, LF, Eveleth, etc., don't have the 200,000 people just a relative short drive away so they can re-stock with all-stars every year. What type of A team can "just beat them"? Greenway needed to add three late transfers to their best team in twenty years to do it, SCC needed to draw all the top talent from a metro area of 150,000, EGF needed to be a suburb of an area of 100,000 to do it, and Alexandria needed to be on the cusp of AA enrollment and face hands-down the worst Hermantown team in years to do it. Fueling the erosion of community loyalty and hockey in small towns
Lou Nanne, Mike McGraw, Mark Parrish, Scott Pionk, and even Hermantown's current head coach didn't believe the answer was "just beat them". They said "Hermantown should be in AA." Decision makers at Hermantown remain unmoved. Tone deaf
Farting in a full elevator, making fun of the handicapped behind their backs, and handing out apples for Halloween aren't against the rules either. But does that mean you should you do them?![]()
rainier2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:17 pmWhy hate? Here's a few reasons:
A program that plays AA from squirts through HS regular season, beats/plays tight with the AA champ every year, and has arena rafters that sag under the weight of single A banners, yet it's still not enough to move up. Greed
A program whose coach and fans complained loudly about metro privates drawing top talent from AA-sized areas yet having enrollments small enough to qualify for A, yet now they are doing the exact same thing themselves. Hypocrisy
A program whose exploitation of the rules has distorted reality for expectations of Class A teams, hence we see clueless statements like "just beat them". TRF, Luverne, I-Falls, LF, Eveleth, etc., don't have the 200,000 people just a relative short drive away so they can re-stock with all-stars every year. What type of A team can "just beat them"? Greenway needed to add three late transfers to their best team in twenty years to do it, SCC needed to draw all the top talent from a metro area of 150,000, EGF needed to be a suburb of an area of 100,000 to do it, and Alexandria needed to be on the cusp of AA enrollment and face hands-down the worst Hermantown team in years to do it. Fueling the erosion of community loyalty and hockey in small towns
Lou Nanne, Mike McGraw, Mark Parrish, Scott Pionk, and even Hermantown's current head coach didn't believe the answer was "just beat them". They said "Hermantown should be in AA." Decision makers at Hermantown remain unmoved. Tone deaf
Farting in a full elevator, making fun of the handicapped behind their backs, and handing out apples for Halloween aren't against the rules either. But does that mean you should you do them?![]()
Huh, that' s the youth hockey rule.greenwayraider wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:13 pm A good start would would be to adopt the following rule: If you play AA in Youth Hockey you must play AA at the high school level.
Yep, and Pionk stood up at the school board meeting and said the "scholastic bullying" of Hermantown being in A had to stop. He knows what it is doing to small town hockey in MN, especially up north.stopthepuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:19 pmWhats your point? Scott Pionk has dedicated his life to promoting hockey in the region and helping countless numbers of young hockey players improve and advance no matter where they played
I understood your point and not arguing its validity but if that happens you have a circular equation- a catch 22.greenwayraider wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 pm Maybe I didn’t make my point clear. The MSHSL is the party that needs to enforce this. If Hermantown or Mahtomedi want to play AA at the youth level then they must play AA at the high school level
But who is going to make the youth choose first?greenwayraider wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:18 am You would have to make the youth association choose first. If Hermantown chooses AA then they will be assigned AA at the high school level. You have to change the paradigm.