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Who will be #1 in Class A?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:14 am
by HShockeywatcher
-Pending the fact they make it, aside from being an alumnus, I would put St Thomas at #1, because of their SOS and beating Hill Murray late. But they are a private school, so they may not get the love.
-The only Class A loss Marshall has is to Cathedral. If they make it they will have beat them the second meeting and the one that matters. Also a private school.
-If Hermantown makes it they will be the only undefeated team. They have a weak SOS but did tie a team (Cloquet) that Marshall lost to.
-Hibbing only has Class AA losses and one to Hermantown, but if they make it they will have beaten them.
-Warroad has more history on their shoulders than anyone.
-Orono and New Prague have a slew of bad losses throughout the season.
-Little Falls should get seeded, but #1 is probably not an option.
-If Red Wing makes it, they will have knocked off one of the top teams.

Re: Who will be #1 in Class A?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:26 am
by quickgym guy
HShockeywatcher wrote:-Pending the fact they make it, aside from being an alumnus, I would put St Thomas at #1, because of their SOS and beating Hill Murray late. But they are a private school, so they may not get the love.
-The only Class A loss Marshall has is to Cathedral. If they make it they will have beat them the second meeting and the one that matters. Also a private school.
-If Hermantown makes it they will be the only undefeated team. They have a weak SOS but did beat a team (Cloquet) that Marshall lost to.
-Hibbing only has Class AA losses and one to Hermantown, but if they make it they will have beaten them.
-Warroad has more history on their shoulders than anyone.
-Orono and New Prague have a slew of bad losses throughout the season.
-Little Falls should get seeded, but #1 is probably not an option.
-If Red Wing makes it, they will have knocked off one of the top teams.
Hermantown tied Cloquet...

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:37 am
by EREmpireStrikesBack
Anyone but STA.

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New Prague

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:39 am
by goaler
New Prague

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:45 am
by HShockeywatcher
My bad on the tying thing. In Class AA anyone who wins, unless they are paired up against 1AA first, will have to win three good games. In Class A, that is not the case. I'm not going to say the top seed has it easier, but they have it better. There are realistically going to be three contenders (yes, upsets are possible) and that mean the 1 seed has it better off, with probably a realatively easy first game, next probably against Little Falls and then the finals. But if you are the 2 or 3 seed you have to play a tough semifinal and then the final. Just curious if people think Marshall or St Thomas will get it, or if the fact they are private will hold people back from voting for them.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:56 am
by hockeydad
It was said Orono and New Prague have a slew of bad losses throughout the year...

Hmmm...I can't speak for Orono, but let's look at New Prague's six losses:

Two losses to Holy Angels (one in overtime) a AA section finalist
One loss to Orono, a section finalist
One loss to Little Falls, another section finalist
One loss to Red Wing, yet another section finalist.
And one loss to Prior Lake....OK, I'll give you that one, it's a bad loss, even if it's a AA team.

I was unaware that the definition of a "slew of bad losses" was one loss.

No, New Prague wont' be the No. 1 seed, and probably won't be a top four seed, but dont' say we have a "slew of bad losses."

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:15 am
by Ankles Pierre, Jr.
It's a trick question... no "class-A" team can finish higher than #74.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:15 am
by MNHockey75
I see it going like this...

1. Saint Thomas Academy - easy choice, must beat Red Wing
2. Hermantown/Hibbing - The winner of this game gets #2
3. Duluth Marshall - easy choice as well, must beat SCC, I dont think they'll have a problem with that personally.
4. Warroad - IF they beat TRF. If they don't, it's a toss up between Totino and Orono.
the rest...
Totino-Grace - 5A Winner
Little Falls - 4A Winner
Albert Lea - 1A Winner
Orono - 6A Winner

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:17 am
by PASTRAPIDSFAN
MNHockey75 wrote:I see it going like this...

1. Saint Thomas Academy - easy choice, must beat Red Wing
2. Hermantown/Hibbing - The winner of this game gets #2
3. Duluth Marshall - easy choice as well, must beat SCC, I dont think they'll have a problem with that personally.
4. Warroad - IF they beat TRF. If they don't, it's a toss up between Totino and Orono.
the rest...
Totino-Grace - 5A Winner
Little Falls - 4A Winner
Albert Lea - 1A Winner
Orono - 6A Winner
I agree

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:24 am
by HShockeywatcher
I agree also. My question, though, is from what people have always talked about with there being bias in seeding, will St Thomas get the respect they need to get a #1 seed?

Maybe my wording about the losses wasn't the greatest, but being a section finalist doesn't make you a great team. That wasn't the best of your arguments. They got thwomped by a team that lost to Morris/Benson. They could've easily had two losses this season, but screwed that up.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:26 pm
by Mantooth
MNHockey75 wrote:I see it going like this...

1. Saint Thomas Academy - easy choice, must beat Red Wing
2. Hermantown/Hibbing - The winner of this game gets #2
3. Duluth Marshall - easy choice as well, must beat SCC, I dont think they'll have a problem with that personally.
4. Warroad - IF they beat TRF. If they don't, it's a toss up between Totino and Orono.
the rest...
Totino-Grace - 5A Winner
Little Falls - 4A Winner
Albert Lea - 1A Winner
Orono - 6A Winner

I would also agree with this.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:34 pm
by boblee
If Hermantown makes it they have to be #1. They have yet to lose. I don't care about SOS here.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:45 pm
by hawkfan70
boblee wrote:If Hermantown makes it they have to be #1. They have yet to lose. I don't care about SOS here.
that is kind of what i was thinking also, but i am not one to toot my own horn

first thing first though, the HAWKS must get through hibbing and that is a very Imageous road


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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:49 pm
by MPLSlaker
I agree with boblee..its theirs if they get by Hibbing

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:00 pm
by Wild4hockey
Mantooth wrote:
MNHockey75 wrote:I see it going like this...

1. Saint Thomas Academy - easy choice, must beat Red Wing
2. Hermantown/Hibbing - The winner of this game gets #2
3. Duluth Marshall - easy choice as well, must beat SCC, I dont think they'll have a problem with that personally.
4. Warroad - IF they beat TRF. If they don't, it's a toss up between Totino and Orono.
the rest...
Totino-Grace - 5A Winner
Little Falls - 4A Winner
Albert Lea - 1A Winner
Orono - 6A Winner

I would also agree with this.
Carefull, you had better not let any LF fans see that. They seem to think their team deserves and has earned a top 4 seed.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:04 pm
by fan4life
Wild4hockey wrote:
Mantooth wrote:
MNHockey75 wrote:I see it going like this...

1. Saint Thomas Academy - easy choice, must beat Red Wing
2. Hermantown/Hibbing - The winner of this game gets #2
3. Duluth Marshall - easy choice as well, must beat SCC, I dont think they'll have a problem with that personally.
4. Warroad - IF they beat TRF. If they don't, it's a toss up between Totino and Orono.
the rest...
Totino-Grace - 5A Winner
Little Falls - 4A Winner
Albert Lea - 1A Winner
Orono - 6A Winner

I would also agree with this.
Carefull, you had better not let any LF fans see that. They seem to think their team deserves and has earned a top 4 seed.
Ummmmmmm....not all of us, ;)

I agree with most of that but i'd have to switch Hermantown to #1 and STA to #2. Like boblee says, they're yet to lose and if they beat a team like Hibbing, IMHO they've earned that top seed.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:05 pm
by boblee
And to be honest, if Hibbing wins, they may have a crack at the #1 seed. I also think it goes to Marshall before it goes to STA.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:32 pm
by DmnHawk5
If these teams win...
#1 Hermantown
Toss up between STA and DM for #2 and #3 but personally think it should go to DM
#4 Warroad

This could possible set up a Hermantown vs. Duluth Marshall final. That would be one hell of a game considering how the two played each other earlier in the year and the rivalry between the two. Could get very heated in the Duluth area :D.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:13 pm
by MNHocker444
If warroad loses to TRF and its a toss up between totino and orono, wouldnt orono get the seed anyway since they beat totino head to head????

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:31 pm
by Zamboni Guy
MNHocker444 wrote:If warroad loses to TRF and its a toss up between totino and orono, wouldnt orono get the seed anyway since they beat totino head to head????
Shouldn't really matter since Totino-Grace got beat tonight by Blake.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:31 pm
by HShockeywatcher
Wow, so all of a sudden New Prague can't make it and Little Falls is the #7 seed? Hmmm....

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:35 pm
by HShockeywatcher
Really, pending they all make it there's no difference between #2 and #3, just what time your games are played. The only thing that matters is who's number 1. My opinion:
1. St Thomas - Schedule, beat Hill Murray
2. Hermantown - Schedule, didn't lose
3. Duluth Marshall - Decent results, lost to Cloquet
4. Little Falls - They earned it

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:53 pm
by fkahckyprofessor20
DmnHawk5 wrote:If these teams win...
#1 Hermantown
Toss up between STA and DM for #2 and #3 but personally think it should go to DM
#4 Warroad

This could possible set up a Hermantown vs. Duluth Marshall final. That would be one hell of a game considering how the two played each other earlier in the year and the rivalry between the two. Could get very heated in the Duluth area :D.
I think these seedings are pretty accurate.. Although DM has not at all locked up 2A just yet. If SCC wins I think it will go like this..

1. Hermantown
2. STA
3. SCC
4. Warroad

As of right now I'm not planning on heading down to the X, but if it's a DM vs Hermantown final, I'll be there.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:10 am
by DM shenanigans
HShockeywatcher wrote:Really, pending they all make it there's no difference between #2 and #3, just what time your games are played. The only thing that matters is who's number 1. My opinion:
1. St Thomas - Schedule, beat Hill Murray
2. Hermantown - Schedule, didn't lose
3. Duluth Marshall - Decent results, lost to Cloquet
4. Little Falls - They earned it
That's like saying DM should be first because they beat Cretin. Bad logic.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:17 am
by HShockeywatcher
No. It was late in the season, which is what matters. If they'd played Cretin late in the season I'd switch them and Hermantown on my list.