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Top Programs All Time in Minnesota
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:17 pm
by carpenterguy
Since we have one certain poster on the board that doesn't understand the difference between a team and a program I thought a seperate thread may help him.
1. Roseau 7 State Titles in 5 different decades.
2. International Falls 7 State Titles in 4 different decades.
3. Edina 6 State Titles in 4 different decades.
Looking at the state tourney book these 3 programs stood out winning more than anyone else and doing it in more than 2 decades.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:43 pm
by formerallstar
Here are my top
1-Roseau-7 state titles in 5 different decades/31 state tourney appearances/most games won at state/most goals at state/most championship appearances/
2-International Falls-7 state titles in 4 different decades/19 state tourney appearances/36 games won at state
3-Eveleth (Eveleth-Gilbert)-7 state titles{5 as Eveleth and 2 as EG in the 90s}/15 tourney appearances/4 straight titles/13 straight tourney appearances/33 games won at state/oh probably the greatest rink in MN
4-Edina-6 state titles/21 state tourney appearances/40 games won at state/
5- gotta go with Bloomington Jefferson with a slight edge over Duluth East
Note-these are teams since the tourney was established in 1945, cuz i know there will be arguments about how bad Eveleth really was
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:33 pm
by Ankles Pierre, Jr.
Hill-Murray Pioneers!
Most (34) State Tournament Appearances EVER!
Most (34) State Tournament Appearances since 1961!
Most (21) MSHSL State Tournament Appearances since 1975 league merger!
Most ( 7) Goals Scored Single Period in a State Tournament Game!
Most (15) State Championship Games since 1961!
Most ( 1) Undefeated Seasons in the post-1975 One-Class All-School MSHSL!
Four ( 4) State Championship Teams in four different decades!
More D-1, TeamUSA, Olympic, and NHL Players than Most Favorite Programs!
Most Stanley Cups for Defensemen!
Most Miracle on Ice Goalies!
Most Hated by Bigots of the Bored!
Best-Looking and Smartest Students, Faculty, and Alumni!
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:54 pm
by carpenterguy
Does large print make it a fact? No!
Most of those large print items are nowhere to find in the State High School book.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:05 pm
by Ankles Pierre, Jr.
Carpinguy cannot challenge even one of AP's FACTS....
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:10 pm
by scoreboard33
For Edina,
you have to give us Edina East also.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:14 pm
by carpenterguy
Two words for AP: Caffeine Free
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:19 pm
by HShockeywatcher
Edina East and Edina West should be included in Edina.
I'm pretty sure nothing AP said is untrue. Hill Murray has and has always had a very good program.
One thing that works against the private schools is the state Championships/appearances in a private school league. St Thomas has 4 State Championships. One in the 20's and two in the 50's, not sure the association, but they are not listed on minnhock. I know Duluth Cathedral (now Duluth Marshall) went to state for 9 or 10 years straight in the 70's but not sure what association that was with either.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:15 pm
by Ankles Pierre, Jr.
Edina tries to merge the accomplishments of four schools, three of which were playing simultaneously! A simple name change is just not the case, but Ankles Pierre wonders what Hill-Murray's records would be if...
We'll call AHA: "Hill-Murray West!"
Then call CDH: "Hill-Murray East!"
BSM can be: "Hill-Murray Morningside!"
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:19 pm
by Zamman
Ankles Pierre, Jr. wrote:Hill-Murray Pioneers!
Most (34) State Tournament Appearances EVER!
Most (34) State Tournament Appearances since 1961!
Most (21) MSHSL State Tournament Appearances since 1975 league merger!
Most ( 7) Goals Scored Single Period in a State Tournament Game!
Most (15) State Championship Games since 1961!
Most ( 1) Undefeated Seasons in the post-1975 One-Class All-School MSHSL!
Four ( 4) State Championship Teams in four different decades!
More D-1, TeamUSA, Olympic, and NHL Players than Most Favorite Programs!
Most Stanley Cups for Defensemen!
Most Miracle on Ice Goalies!
Most Hated by Bigots of the Bored!
Best-Looking and Smartest Students, Faculty, and Alumni!
I will challenge the last statement..... I bet some of the other schools may have just as or better looking and smarter students, faculty and alumni....
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:29 pm
by HShockeywatcher
And I'll challenge the 2nd to last statement; pretty sure Holy Angels, St Thomas and maybe even Cretin have you guys beat there.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:57 pm
by Neutron 14
HShockeywatcher wrote:And I'll challenge the 2nd to last statement; pretty sure Holy Angels, St Thomas and maybe even Cretin have you guys beat there.
We should run a poll on schools with the highest persecution complex.
I'm betting HS and the narcissist would argue till the season reopens....
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:18 am
by woody22
Ankles Pierre, Jr. wrote:Edina tries to merge the accomplishments of four schools, three of which were playing simultaneously! A simple name change is just not the case, but Ankles Pierre wonders what Hill-Murray's records would be if...
We'll call AHA: "Hill-Murray West!"
Then call CDH: "Hill-Murray East!"
BSM can be: "Hill-Murray Morningside!"
What were the four schools? Edina East, Edina West....
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:23 am
by HShockeywatcher
Edina-Morningside. Probably a little before your time if you don't remember it. But I think the whole "Hill Murray Morningside" kind of gave it away.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:28 am
by woody22
I was unaware. Were they ever half descent?
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:34 am
by HShockeywatcher
No, it was a really small school, like Morningside was its own township you could say for a while and it had a one man police force for 40 years or so. If I understand AP correctly he put BSM in as them as they haven't done anything yet to contribute.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:38 am
by woody22
Understood, I did hear about it being the Junior and Senior High before and during WWII.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:42 am
by HShockeywatcher
Well, I'm definitely not an expert on the school/little city, just the little bit of knowledge I have.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:51 am
by mnhockey9009
ssp should be high on the list, well not now, but back in the phil housley days.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:47 am
by carpenterguy
Just look at the records from the State High School Hockey Tournament and it's obvious that Roseau, International Falls, and Edina stand above the rest.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:46 am
by Hockeyguy_27
carpenterguy wrote:Just look at the records from the State High School Hockey Tournament and it's obvious that Roseau, International Falls, and Edina stand above the rest.
It depends on how you define the "top programs" is it their accumulated wins/state tournament appearances? Is it how many great players they have produced or it is their consistency with respect to their winning since the 1950's?
If I were to base it upon a combination of all the above I would have to say
1) Edina
2) Roseau
3) Hill Murray
4) Grand Rapids
5) Duluth East
In no particular order
If it was how many great players they have graduated or had play for them in the past ten years it is Holy Angels.
ssp
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:17 pm
by eyeinthesky
south st. paul is definately in the top 5
they are #2 all time in state tourny appearances
just because they dont have a title or they haven't been to state for 4 years dont hold it agains them
they are a land locked suburb, all the kids that have graduated there over the years can't stay there, they move out to other suburbs.
the past few years alone, housley has mentioned on T.V. that he played with this kids dad who now plays for eagan, woodbury, cretin, simley, etc.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:49 pm
by WendyClark
If I do the math right, Hill-Murray has another record, the MOST(11) championship game loses.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:51 pm
by Goldy Gopher
WendyClark wrote:If I do the math right, Hill-Murray has another record, the MOST(11) championship game loses.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:23 pm
by BIAFP
Ankles Pierre, Jr. wrote:Hill-Murray Pioneers!
TRUTH!
Most (13) State Championship Games LOST...More than Moorhead since 1961!
Two ( 2) State Championship Teams in past four decades!
Most Hated by the Board!
Worst-Looking and Cockiest Students, Faculty, and Alumni!
Well if that isn't just special