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Anyone have a preseason HS ranking to share?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:44 pm
by O-townClown
I'm curious when I look at schedules how certain teams will be in relation to last year. It is easy to find the Let's Play Hockey final 2006-07 rankings online; how were these teams affected by graduation and other attrition? Which teams move up strong JV players or even Bantams?
Is this the beginnig of the Top 5?
1. Edina
2. Roseau
3. Burnsville
4.
5.
Re: Anyone have a preseason HS ranking to share?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:51 pm
by Govs93
O-townClown wrote:I'm curious when I look at schedules how certain teams will be in relation to last year. It is easy to find the Let's Play Hockey final 2006-07 rankings online; how were these teams affected by graduation and other attrition? Which teams move up strong JV players or even Bantams?
Is this the beginnig of the Top 5?
1. Edina
2. Roseau
3. Burnsville
4.
5.
Close. I think you mean:
1. St. Paul Johnson
2. Edina
3. Roseau
4. Burnsville
Re: Anyone have a preseason HS ranking to share?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:02 pm
by Rbkhockey21
Govs93 wrote:O-townClown wrote:I'm curious when I look at schedules how certain teams will be in relation to last year. It is easy to find the Let's Play Hockey final 2006-07 rankings online; how were these teams affected by graduation and other attrition? Which teams move up strong JV players or even Bantams?
Is this the beginnig of the Top 5?
1. Edina
2. Roseau
3. Burnsville
4.
5.
Close. I think you mean:
1. St. Paul Johnson
2. Edina
3. Roseau
4. Burnsville
why is everybody ranking Burnsville so high?? They have no defense this year after graduating their goalie and Franks..yes they have that top line but honestly i dont see burnsville in top 5. For sure top 20 but not top 5..
Re: Anyone have a preseason HS ranking to share?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:07 pm
by elliott70
Govs93 wrote:O-townClown wrote:I'm curious when I look at schedules how certain teams will be in relation to last year. It is easy to find the Let's Play Hockey final 2006-07 rankings online; how were these teams affected by graduation and other attrition? Which teams move up strong JV players or even Bantams?
Is this the beginnig of the Top 5?
1. Edina
2. Roseau
3. Burnsville
4.
5.
Close. I think you mean:
1. St. Paul Johnson
2. Edina
3. Roseau
4. Burnsville
There are some of us non-Johnson alum that would like to see Johnson there or somewhere in the top 10.
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:10 pm
by elliott70
Roseau
Edina
then in some order
HA, Moorhead, Duluth East, Hill, Anoka, WBL, Wayzata, EP and
Buffalo and then Burnsville.
A thread has been started on this.
Re: Anyone have a preseason HS ranking to share?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:10 pm
by Govs93
elliott70 wrote:Govs93 wrote:O-townClown wrote:I'm curious when I look at schedules how certain teams will be in relation to last year. It is easy to find the Let's Play Hockey final 2006-07 rankings online; how were these teams affected by graduation and other attrition? Which teams move up strong JV players or even Bantams?
Is this the beginnig of the Top 5?
1. Edina
2. Roseau
3. Burnsville
4.
5.
Close. I think you mean:
1. St. Paul Johnson
2. Edina
3. Roseau
4. Burnsville
There are some of us non-Johnson alum that would like to see Johnson there or somewhere in the top 10.
It would be marvelous, but uh....
Gracias
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:18 pm
by O-townClown
elliott70 wrote:
A thread has been started on this.
Thanks for your input. Didn't see another thread. I just joined the board and went back about a month. My bad.
CONSENSUS FROM THE OTHER THREAD
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:11 pm
by O-townClown
Elliott tipped me off to another thread from the summer. Here goes:
1-2: Edina/Roseau
3-5: Holy Angels/Hill-Murray/Centennial
6-7: Duluth East/Burnsville
8-9: Moorhead/Anoka
10-12: Eden Prairie/Grand Rapids/Cloquet
13-18:
Benilde-St. Margaret's
Minnetonka
Wayzata
Duluth Marshall
Duluth Denfeld
St. Thomas Academy
Does this look alright?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:16 pm
by Neutron 14
I'd swap Hill and Roseau
Drop Centennial down with DE/Burnsville
Get the Class A's out
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:58 pm
by BIAFP
Roseau
Edina
The rest are pretenders.
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:48 pm
by BERG RENOLZ
BIAFP wrote:Roseau
Edina
The rest are pretenders.
I agree. You can't really put anyone ahead of Roseau right now, maybe Edina with all the talent they have. Roseau didn't lose much, so putting H-M ahead of them is pretty ballsy. We'll see what happens.
1. Roseau
2. Edina
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:29 pm
by MNRinkRat
Class AA
1/Edina
2/Roseau
3/Hill-Murray
4/Holy Angels
5/Centennial
6/Anoka
7/Cloquet
8/Burnsville
9/Roseville
10/D. East
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:58 pm
by MNHockey08
Why is everybody ranking Wayzata so high, what do they have next year?
Re: Anyone have a preseason HS ranking to share?
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:14 am
by tjkhavgam
Rbkhockey21 wrote:Govs93 wrote:O-townClown wrote:I'm curious when I look at schedules how certain teams will be in relation to last year. It is easy to find the Let's Play Hockey final 2006-07 rankings online; how were these teams affected by graduation and other attrition? Which teams move up strong JV players or even Bantams?
Is this the beginnig of the Top 5?
1. Edina
2. Roseau
3. Burnsville
4.
5.
Close. I think you mean:
1. St. Paul Johnson
2. Edina
3. Roseau
4. Burnsville
why is everybody ranking Burnsville so high?? They have no defense this year after graduating their goalie and Franks..yes they have that top line but honestly i dont see burnsville in top 5. For sure top 20 but not top 5..
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:02 am
by TheHockeyDJ
Okay, why is Duluth East getting such a high ranking? Reputation? Two years in a row they didn't reach the section final? I know Grand Rapids lost White and Stejskal, so there is definetly reason to be skeptical of how they might do this year, but East? Who do they have? Didn't they lose Flagherty(juniors), and Leis to graduation? Right now I think you can clump Rapids/CEC/East/Elk River all at the same level. I don't think any of those teams has a legit reason on paper to be ranked ahead of the others.
Not trying to rant, just looking for a logical explanation?
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:17 am
by east hockey
rapidsrapids wrote:Okay, why is Duluth East getting such a high ranking? Reputation? Two years in a row they didn't reach the section final? I know Grand Rapids lost White and Stejskal, so there is definetly reason to be skeptical of how they might do this year, but East? Who do they have? Didn't they lose Flagherty(juniors), and Leis to graduation? Right now I think you can clump Rapids/CEC/East/Elk River all at the same level. I don't think any of those teams has a legit reason on paper to be ranked ahead of the others.
Not trying to rant, just looking for a logical explanation?
I was waiting for someone to bring up East!
My answer is, I don't have one. On the surface, I don't see them being that high. My guess is what you implied, reputation. Problem is people forget that they haven't done so well the past two seasons (and I don't want to hear about how East played their worst game when it counted most), and go based on the run they had from '94-'05.
On the other hand, if you take a quick look at East's stats last season, losing Flaherty isn't as big a loss as some might suggest. It's not even close to losing White for Rapids or Johnson for C-town. Losing Ben is a bigger deal, but my sources tell me that Neil Larson will be fine in that role. We'll see.
I wouldn't put them in the Top Ten. The only team I'd put there from 7AA would be the Tornadoes.
Lee
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:37 am
by Silent But Deadly
elliott70 wrote:Roseau
Edina
then in some order
HA, Moorhead, Duluth East, Hill, Anoka, WBL, Wayzata, EP and
Buffalo and then Burnsville.
Elliott....quit sucking up to Buffalo & HOFam'r!
You've invited him to the party.....let's see how he behaves!
Just a blend of others' opinions
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:40 am
by O-townClown
rapidsrapids wrote:Okay, why is Duluth East getting such a high ranking?
Not trying to rant, just looking for a logical explanation?
The logical explanation is that the ratings I posted are a consensus of the teams mentioned on the thread from this summer. Some people on that thread must have had East in their Top 10s. I don't know why. You seem more qualified to assess the team's forecast than anyone.
post 8390
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:05 am
by boblee
In my opinion a pre-season ranking should really look like this for section 7AA:
1. Anoka
t1.5. Cloquet
t1.5. Duluth East
t1.5. Elk River
t1.5. Grand Rapids
I only put anoka up there because they return so much talent.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:31 am
by Goldy23
Neutron 14 wrote:I'd swap Hill and Roseau
Drop Centennial down with DE/Burnsville
Get the Class A's out
Neut,
Why get the Class A's out? If they have the talent, they belong. Every year there are a couple of teams that deserve to be in the top ten! The size of the school really has no bearing, as what really matters is the quality of the 20 kids on the team!
Re: post 8390
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:40 am
by elliott70
boblee wrote:In my opinion a pre-season ranking should really look like this for section 7AA:
1. Anoka & Duluth East
3. Cloquet
4. Grand Rapids
5. Elk River
6. Forest Lake
Adjusted for what will be.
post 8391
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:57 am
by boblee
Elliott, and all other Duluth East believers... How do you put this team ahead of Grand Rapids and Elk River, but mainly, Cloquet?
Cloquet returns Justin Jokinen who is the top forward in this second and David Brown who is a top 5 defenseman in the STATE. Please explain, East believers.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:13 pm
by quickgym guy
What I don't understand is how everyone thinks that Anoka is the #1 team in 7AA...I know they are returning some good players, but if you look at last year they had one win against a top tier team (Duluth East). I just can't see them being that much better. The northern schools lose great players every year & always seem to bounce back with really good teams. I think it will be a battle between DE, GR & Cloquet. We will see about Anoka......
Re: post 8391
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:16 pm
by elliott70
boblee wrote:Elliott, and all other Duluth East believers... How do you put this team ahead of Grand Rapids and Elk River, but mainly, Cloquet?
Cloquet returns Justin Jokinen who is the top forward in this second and David Brown who is a top 5 defenseman in the STATE. Please explain, East believers.
Reverse jinx!
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:26 pm
by Can't Never Tried
quickgym guy wrote:What I don't understand is how everyone thinks that Anoka is the #1 team in 7AA...I know they are returning some good players, but if you look at last year they had one win against a top tier team (Duluth East). I just can't see them being that much better. The northern schools lose great players every year & always seem to bounce back with really good teams. I think it will be a battle between DE, GR & Cloquet. We will see about Anoka......
You shall see!