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S.E.C. What's Up??

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:01 pm
by ROOK EYE
No one wants the hardware this year. Lot's of inconsistent play. Lack of talent or Pairity??

SEC

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:08 pm
by wblsuperfan A
Lot of teams still trying to figure out who they are. There aren't any real Mr Hockey candidates in the SEC, but there is still plenty of talent. By the end of the year, this will end up being between WB and Roseville and maybe Woodbury hanging in there. This is a tough conference where any team can win a single game. I think WB will eventually win the conference and will win their game tonight vs Roseville 3-2.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:20 pm
by Royaltreatment
I've seen most of the teams and yes i would agree. No Ryan Mcdonugh's or Chris Hickey's this year. I don't see much depth on most of these team's either. I can't believe i'm saying this, but at the midway point the mighty Raiders from Hastings have as good a chance as anyone..

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:23 pm
by Bash Brother
Royaltreatment wrote:I've seen most of the teams and yes i would agree. No Ryan Mcdonugh's or Chris Hickey's this year. I don't see much depth on most of these team's either. I can't believe i'm saying this, but at the midway point the mighty Raiders from Hastings have as good a chance as anyone..
Hastings :?: lets not get carried away.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:31 pm
by Royaltreatment
Sorry!! I got into the old man's liquor cabinet last night. I Wasn't thinking.
Maybe we should ask the Raider's of Roseville what they think..

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:34 pm
by Bash Brother
They might have something to say. Im not interested in hearing it but they may want to say something.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:53 pm
by gophs12
i think the bears will come out on top in this one. they have already beaten stillwater, roseville, hastings, and forest lake. there only disappointing loss this season was to park. wb has 4 losses on the season and two has been hill and the others were cloque and park.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:59 pm
by wbmd
Current S.E.C. standings

(from Minnesota-Scores.net)


Cretin-Derham Hall 5-1-0
Woodbury 5-1-0
Roseville 5-1-0
White Bear Lake 3-2-0
Forest Lake 3-4-0
Hastings 3-4-0
Stillwater Area 3-5-0
Park of Cottage Grove 1-5-0
Mounds View 0-5-0

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:16 am
by wbmd
gophs12 wrote:i think the bears will come out on top in this one. they have already beaten stillwater, roseville, hastings, and forest lake. there only disappointing loss this season was to park. wb has 4 losses on the season and two has been hill and the others were cloque and park.
Add Roseville's 5-0 shutout over the Bears to that list.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:21 am
by Pucknutz69
Hastings 6-1 in the last 7. After not winning for a year will it now turn into "not losing for a year?"

RUSS WELCH AND THE RAIDERS UNBEATIN IN 08!!!!!!



Hey hockeynutz where's your negetivity now? Oh I see your kid must be getting some icetime now, and they are winning now so your little world is at piece. I bet you are on the "Who needs 'em now band wagon!"

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:09 am
by ROOK EYE
I would agree at this point the Bears maybe odds on favorite. I keep waiting for Stillwater to step up, and that doesn't look like that's going to happen. Another example of , just because you played the game doesn't make you a good coach. Housley's had enough time to start turning this thing around.. The more i see of Woodbury the less impressed i am.. I'm still not sold on Hastings. Beating Roseville-Woodbury this year although quite an accomplishment given the circumstances, does not have the same effect as it may have in year's past. Sounds like they were outshot pretty bad in a both of these wins? A hot goalie does not make you a good team. The Rochester holiday tourney they play in is very weak. Just my opinion, but the SEC has less talent this year than in quite a while.. Alot of average teams.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:46 am
by Orty
ROOK EYE wrote:I would agree at this point the Bears maybe odds on favorite. I keep waiting for Stillwater to step up, and that doesn't look like that's going to happen. Another example of , just because you played the game doesn't make you a good coach. Housley's had enough time to start turning this thing around.. The more i see of Woodbury the less impressed i am.. I'm still not sold on Hastings. Beating Roseville-Woodbury this year although quite an accomplishment given the circumstances, does not have the same effect as it may have in year's past. Sounds like they were outshot pretty bad in a both of these wins? A hot goalie does not make you a good team. The Rochester holiday tourney they play in is very weak. Just my opinion, but the SEC has less talent this year than in quite a while.. Alot of average teams.
After seeing WB play Roseville last night and Woodbury beating CDH, I think this is Woodbury's to lose. WB was flat, never got any loose pucks and their goalie let in some softies.

Orty

Re: SEC

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:52 am
by sicknasty7722
wblsuperfan A wrote:There aren't any real Mr Hockey candidates in the SEC, but there is still plenty of talent.
Ever heard of Adam Mueller? Your probably sick of hearing his name after last night, as he scored 4 of the 5 goals on WBL.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:53 am
by SEC Scotty
Orty wrote:
ROOK EYE wrote:I would agree at this point the Bears maybe odds on favorite. I keep waiting for Stillwater to step up, and that doesn't look like that's going to happen. Another example of , just because you played the game doesn't make you a good coach. Housley's had enough time to start turning this thing around.. The more i see of Woodbury the less impressed i am.. I'm still not sold on Hastings. Beating Roseville-Woodbury this year although quite an accomplishment given the circumstances, does not have the same effect as it may have in year's past. Sounds like they were outshot pretty bad in a both of these wins? A hot goalie does not make you a good team. The Rochester holiday tourney they play in is very weak. Just my opinion, but the SEC has less talent this year than in quite a while.. Alot of average teams.
After seeing WB play Roseville last night and Woodbury beating CDH, I think this is Woodbury's to lose. WB was flat, never got any loose pucks and their goalie let in some softies.

Orty
The Bears got out worked, out hustled, and outplayed. Mueller had a great game.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:31 pm
by who_b_dat
We will know a lot more come this time next week. Roseville plays Woodbury and WB draws CDH on Thursday. Roseville then squares off with CDH on Saturday in a Raider v Raider affair while CDH and Woodbury go at it.

If they can sustain some consistency between the pipes, I predict that the Roseville Raiders come out the the week undefeated. Led by the red hott Mueller, Roseville will force BashBrother to reconsider his earlier silly comment.

Im also not buying any of the "this section has less talent than previous years" comments. Mueller, Eddy, and Bohrer would certainly disagree. Their teams can play with anyone and win thier fair share.

If the SEC is not your bag, maybe you should follow the Independent, Mississippi 8, or Tri-Metro leagues. Year in and year out there is quality hockey in the SEC. This year is no exception.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:34 pm
by Bash Brother
Just to let you know i was kidding. I am actually quite a fan of Mueller and Eddy.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:57 pm
by SEC Scotty
who_b_dat wrote:We will know a lot more come this time next week. Roseville plays Woodbury and WB draws CDH on Thursday. Roseville then squares off with CDH on Saturday in a Raider v Raider affair while CDH and Woodbury go at it.

If they can sustain some consistency between the pipes, I predict that the Roseville Raiders come out the the week undefeated. Led by the red hott Mueller, Roseville will force BashBrother to reconsider his earlier silly comment.

Im also not buying any of the "this section has less talent than previous years" comments. Mueller, Eddy, and Bohrer would certainly disagree. Their teams can play with anyone and win thier fair share.

If the SEC is not your bag, maybe you should follow the Independent, Mississippi 8, or Tri-Metro leagues. Year in and year out there is quality hockey in the SEC. This year is no exception.
McDonagh, Hansen, Hickey, Kieffer, Dorr and Taylor Johnson are all moving on to the USHL and eventual D-1 scholarships. Obviously there isn't as much high end talent as last year, but the level of hockey in the SEC has not dropped off.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:18 pm
by wbmd
who_b_dat wrote:We will know a lot more come this time next week. Roseville plays Woodbury and WB draws CDH on Thursday. Roseville then squares off with CDH on Saturday in a Raider v Raider affair while CDH and Woodbury go at it.

If they can sustain some consistency between the pipes, I predict that the Roseville Raiders come out the the week undefeated. Led by the red hott Mueller, Roseville will force BashBrother to reconsider his earlier silly comment.

Im also not buying any of the "this section has less talent than previous years" comments. Mueller, Eddy, and Bohrer would certainly disagree. Their teams can play with anyone and win thier fair share.

If the SEC is not your bag, maybe you should follow the Independent, Mississippi 8, or Tri-Metro leagues. Year in and year out there is quality hockey in the SEC. This year is no exception.
Woodbury and Cretin just played last night. They don't meet again until Feb. 7th at Bielenberg.

I think you meant to say that White Bear and Woodbury go at it on Jan. 12th at Bielenberg.

conference is way down

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:31 pm
by tshockey2
There is one good team in the SEC and it's WBL. Roseville has no goaltending, Woodbury just got beat by Hastings. This is as bad as I have seen this conference in many years. There are 3 good players in the conference. Mueller, Boher, Eddy. Thats it.

Re: conference is way down

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:39 pm
by wbmd
tshockey2 wrote:There is one good team in the SEC and it's WBL. Roseville has no goaltending, Woodbury just got beat by Hastings. This is as bad as I have seen this conference in many years. There are 3 good players in the conference. Mueller, Boher, Eddy. Thats it.
Seems to me that White Bear recently lost to Park for the Wolfpack's first win of the season.

Roseville has no goaltending? At least they had enough to shutout White Bear last night.

Re: conference is way down

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:56 pm
by Pucknutz69
tshockey2 wrote:There is one good team in the SEC and it's WBL. Roseville has no goaltending, Woodbury just got beat by Hastings. This is as bad as I have seen this conference in many years. There are 3 good players in the conference. Mueller, Boher, Eddy. Thats it.

Wouldn't your reasoning result in the conclusion that Mueller, Boher and Eddy are the Elite players in the SEC. And that there is a lot of good players in the SEC? You mention 3 players yet non are on the team that you declare is the best in the conference?



What do you think about a Conference Showdown? kind of like what the Big Ten and ACC do, each team plays a team from the other conference 1 game, each conference hosting half of the games. There could be a traveling trophy or something it, change conferences every year or other year, do it state wide the same week. What do you think??

Re: conference is way down

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:16 pm
by komada77
tshockey2 wrote:There is one good team in the SEC and it's WBL. Roseville has no goaltending, Woodbury just got beat by Hastings. This is as bad as I have seen this conference in many years. There are 3 good players in the conference. Mueller, Boher, Eddy. Thats it.
Really? I'm pretty sure Roseville just destroyed (and shutout) WBL last night, but maybe I imagined that?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:52 am
by ROOK EYE
Scottie how can you say the talent has not dropped off?? Park-Mounds View-Hastings-Stillwater- Forest Lake they all stink. They don't play anyone so how can you gauge anything. These teams couln't play with most of the Classic Suburban this year. Cretin the leader of this conference got pounded twice by STA and i believe Hill as well. I for one think the proof is in the pudding..

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:18 am
by packerboy
ROOK EYE wrote:Scottie how can you say the talent has not dropped off?? Park-Mounds View-Hastings-Stillwater- Forest Lake they all stink. They don't play anyone so how can you gauge anything. These teams couln't play with most of the Classic Suburban this year. Cretin the leader of this conference got pounded twice by STA and i believe Hill as well. I for one think the proof is in the pudding..
The conference is down this year at the top. The last few years it had a number of good teams and a state champ. No potential state champs nor Mr Hockeys this year but still a good conference.

Because no team is really that good, what you will get on a given night is going to be a mystery. Woodbury will lose to Hastings and then beat CDH.

This is a year where a lot of "traditional powers" are down and nobody has taken their place. Kind of of an "Up for Grabs" scenerio.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:13 pm
by SEC Scotty
packerboy wrote:
ROOK EYE wrote:Scottie how can you say the talent has not dropped off?? Park-Mounds View-Hastings-Stillwater- Forest Lake they all stink. They don't play anyone so how can you gauge anything. These teams couln't play with most of the Classic Suburban this year. Cretin the leader of this conference got pounded twice by STA and i believe Hill as well. I for one think the proof is in the pudding..
The conference is down this year at the top. The last few years it had a number of good teams and a state champ. No potential state champs nor Mr Hockeys this year but still a good conference.

Because no team is really that good, what you will get on a given night is going to be a mystery. Woodbury will lose to Hastings and then beat CDH.

This is a year where a lot of "traditional powers" are down and nobody has taken their place. Kind of of an "Up for Grabs" scenerio.
Good take Packerboy. I would say Mueller for Roseville may have a shot at Mr. Hockey if he plays like he did Saturday night. The SEC may not stack up against the Lake Conference but these things go in cycles. Roseville,White Bear, and Woodbury all have excellent youth programs. Cretin will continue to put a good team on the ice. Woodbury will be taking a run at the traditional powers and if you look at the success of their Bantam and Pee Wee teams this year are here to stay. With the new East Ridge high school being build in Woodbury it will be interesting to see what effect it will have on the Woodbury program.