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Section 7A

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:47 am
by Section7Hockey
Who do you all think is the favorite to win the section midway through?

top seniors, juniors, and sophomores?

and who has been most surprising?

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:56 am
by newsguy35
Is Ely in this section? I wouldn't take them too lightly if I were on their schedule...

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:48 am
by greatone
Your not serious are you???

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:15 pm
by elliott70
Ely only lost to Eveleth 2 to 1.



And Eveleth played the Falls tough, twice, only givning up 10 goals, in each game. :D

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:36 pm
by Section7Hockey
Ely beat eveleth.... but eveleth outplayed ely

it's all over but the crying

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:39 pm
by Junior Samples
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:21 pm
by sid_the_kid
elliott70 wrote:Ely only lost to Eveleth 2 to 1.



And Eveleth played the Falls tough, twice, only givning up 10 goals, in each game. :D
actually ely squeezed out a win against eveleth and the 2nd time falls and eveleth played it was 3-3 with about 3 mins left in the 2nd. then falls woke up and popped in 7 more :oops:

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:38 am
by PuckRanger
Its the Bronco`s for the taking at this point. They don't play Marshall, so we probably won't ever see that matchup unless it happens in the section finals. Duluth Marshall is a close second.

Virginia and Hibbing will also be there in the end. I haven't seen much of Greenway, but from the scores they've posted so far, it doesn't look like they are going to be much of a factor, other than maybe raining on someone's parade in the regular season.

I would seed it this way at this point - the Virginia/Hibbing matchup next Saturday could change things and the bottom four could easily be jostled around.

1-International Falls
2-Duluth Marshall
3-Virginia/MI-B
4-Hibbing/Chisholm
5-Greenway/N-K
6-Two Harbors
7-Ely
8-Eveleth
9-Duluth Central
10-Silver Bay

Some of the notable players producing so far:

Seniors: Jake Youso, Ladd Corrin - IFalls, Anthony DeCenzo, Mack Estey - Hibbing, Matt Sonday - Two Harbors, Chris Stoks - Virginia, David Hafferty - Duluth Marshall, Tait Sande - Silver Bay, Jon Henning - Ely.

Juniors: Casey Eckman - Two Harbors, Chris Westin & Troy Grivette - Virginia, Aaron Jamnick & Ryan Hanegmon - Hibbing, Zach Mausolf & Pat Mahoney - Duluth Marshall, Jace Baldwin & Josh Leinum - IFalls, Tanner Viola - Silver Bay.

Sophomores: Jordan Krebsbach & Andrew Judick - Virginia, Garret Ohrn - Greenway, Matt Youso, Mike Hart, & Will Corrin - I Falls, Scott Comrie - Two Harbors

Freshman: Garrett Hendrickson - Virginia is the only one with more than two goals or four points in the section.

Stats on all these players available at www.prephockeynorth.com.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:19 pm
by greenway1969
Great analysis PuckRanger. Section 7A is basically two groups. Your top four seeds (Falls, Marshall, Virginia, Hibbing) and the 6 - 10 seeds that have no chance of winning a section game other than the play-in game. Any of the top four seeds could win the Section with the Falls and Marshall the favorites. Greenway is the odd team out. Greenway is not good enough to beat any of the top 4 in the tournament but they are definetly better than seeds 6 - 10. The one improvement I have noted about Greenway is that they seem to be improving on the defense end. If this improvement continues, they might have a shot at an upset in the sectionals.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:57 pm
by hshckfan08
Add Dano Jaques and Landon Olson to that list of notable players.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:06 pm
by CS5300
Team W - L - T
International Falls 4-0-0
Duluth Marshall School 3-0-0
Two Harbors 3-1-0
Ely/Babbitt-Embarrass/Tower-Soudan 2-1-1
Virginia / Mountain Iron - Buhl / Orr 1-1-0
Hibbing / Chisholm 1-2-0
Duluth Central 1-2-0
Eveleth - Gilbert / Mesabi East 1-4-0
Silver Bay / Cook County 0-4-1
Greenway / Nashwauk - Keewatin 0-1-0

Thats section games only record so far, I falls looks good but I would'nt count Ely out they might pull an upset on somone.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:40 pm
by PuckRanger
CS5300 wrote:Thats section games only record so far, I falls looks good but I would'nt count Ely out they might pull an upset on somone.
Ely is much improved over the past couple of seasons, no doubt. But their 2-1-1 record is agains the bottom tier of teams. 2-1 win over Eveleth, in a game Eveleth dominated play-wise. 6-4 win over Silver Bay, followed by a 3-3 tie with the Mariners. Then there is a 7-4 loss to Two Harbors. If you look at the top teams against the likes of Eveleth the results show a clear distinction of separation. I Falls and Virginia both put running time on Eveleth in the past couple weeks. Eveleth is the only one in the bunch that has played some of the teams regarded as the better ones so far.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:52 pm
by CS5300
You have a point but I spose only time will tell, but i do think there doing better then most people expected.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:52 am
by sid_the_kid
PuckRanger wrote:Its the Bronco`s for the taking at this point. They don't play Marshall, so we probably won't ever see that matchup unless it happens in the section finals. Duluth Marshall is a close second.

Virginia and Hibbing will also be there in the end. I haven't seen much of Greenway, but from the scores they've posted so far, it doesn't look like they are going to be much of a factor, other than maybe raining on someone's parade in the regular season.

I would seed it this way at this point - the Virginia/Hibbing matchup next Saturday could change things and the bottom four could easily be jostled around.

1-International Falls
2-Duluth Marshall
3-Virginia/MI-B
4-Hibbing/Chisholm
5-Greenway/N-K
6-Two Harbors
7-Ely
8-Eveleth
9-Duluth Central
10-Silver Bay

Some of the notable players producing so far:

Seniors: Jake Youso, Ladd Corrin - IFalls, Anthony DeCenzo, Mack Estey - Hibbing, Matt Sonday - Two Harbors, Chris Stoks - Virginia, David Hafferty - Duluth Marshall, Tait Sande - Silver Bay, Jon Henning - Ely.

Juniors: Casey Eckman - Two Harbors, Chris Westin & Troy Grivette - Virginia, Aaron Jamnick & Ryan Hanegmon - Hibbing, Zach Mausolf & Pat Mahoney - Duluth Marshall, Jace Baldwin & Josh Leinum - IFalls, Tanner Viola - Silver Bay.

Sophomores: Jordan Krebsbach & Andrew Judick - Virginia, Garret Ohrn - Greenway, Matt Youso, Mike Hart, & Will Corrin - I Falls, Scott Comrie - Two Harbors

Freshman: Garrett Hendrickson - Virginia is the only one with more than two goals or four points in the section.

Stats on all these players available at www.prephockeynorth.com.
agreed. but what grade is alex guyer in?? some say he is a senior and some say a junior..

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:21 am
by PuckRanger
sid_the_kid wrote:agreed. but what grade is alex guyer in?? some say he is a senior and some say a junior..
Guyer is a senior.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:49 pm
by sid_the_kid
PuckRanger wrote:
sid_the_kid wrote:agreed. but what grade is alex guyer in?? some say he is a senior and some say a junior..
Guyer is a senior.
thanks ranger

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:31 pm
by STC18
I'm likin the Broncos at this point in the season. This is a good sextion to watch as Hibbing or Virginia could pull off some wins against I Falls or Marshall. But I Falls is the slight favorite over Marshall so far.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:50 pm
by east hockey
PuckRanger wrote:Its the Bronco`s for the taking at this point. They don't play Marshall, so we probably won't ever see that matchup unless it happens in the section finals. Duluth Marshall is a close second.

Virginia and Hibbing will also be there in the end. I haven't seen much of Greenway, but from the scores they've posted so far, it doesn't look like they are going to be much of a factor, other than maybe raining on someone's parade in the regular season.

I would seed it this way at this point - the Virginia/Hibbing matchup next Saturday could change things and the bottom four could easily be jostled around.

1-International Falls
2-Duluth Marshall
3-Virginia/MI-B
4-Hibbing/Chisholm
5-Greenway/N-K
6-Two Harbors
7-Ely
8-Eveleth
9-Duluth Central
10-Silver Bay
You know, it never would have occurred to me to place the Falls ahead of Marshall. Until I compared their record against common opponents, that is, and saw both teams were 3-0, with a slight edge in goal differential to Falls. Very interesting.

Lee

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:16 pm
by 7A22A
east hockey wrote:
PuckRanger wrote:Its the Bronco`s for the taking at this point. They don't play Marshall, so we probably won't ever see that matchup unless it happens in the section finals. Duluth Marshall is a close second.

Virginia and Hibbing will also be there in the end. I haven't seen much of Greenway, but from the scores they've posted so far, it doesn't look like they are going to be much of a factor, other than maybe raining on someone's parade in the regular season.

I would seed it this way at this point - the Virginia/Hibbing matchup next Saturday could change things and the bottom four could easily be jostled around.

1-International Falls
2-Duluth Marshall
3-Virginia/MI-B
4-Hibbing/Chisholm
5-Greenway/N-K
6-Two Harbors
7-Ely
8-Eveleth
9-Duluth Central
10-Silver Bay
You know, it never would have occurred to me to place the Falls ahead of Marshall. Until I compared their record against common opponents, that is, and saw both teams were 3-0, with a slight edge in goal differential to Falls. Very interesting.

Lee
Assuming I Falls and Marshall go undefeated in 7A and common opponents and goal difference is a major factor in the #1 seed; then most of the common opposition/goal dif. will have to be divided by 2 for a average, as I Falls found room to play these teams twice in their schedule. Very interesting indeed.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:03 am
by PuckRanger
7A22A wrote:
east hockey wrote: You know, it never would have occurred to me to place the Falls ahead of Marshall. Until I compared their record against common opponents, that is, and saw both teams were 3-0, with a slight edge in goal differential to Falls. Very interesting.

Lee
Assuming I Falls and Marshall go undefeated in 7A and common opponents and goal difference is a major factor in the #1 seed; then most of the common opposition/goal dif. will have to be divided by 2 for a average, as I Falls found room to play these teams twice in their schedule. Very interesting indeed.
Marshall only has one section game left and that is against Virginia in Virginia on Feb. 5th. These two teams haven't played for years and there is some animosity between the two coaches. If there is a chance for an upset, it would probably be here. Virginia also plays up in the Falls, where historically they've struggled, so an upset would seem unlikely. Hibbing hosts I Falls on Jan. 31, thats probably the only other realistic shot at one of the top two losing, although I Falls still has 7 games against section opponents left on their schedule.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:46 am
by 7A22A
PuckRanger wrote:
7A22A wrote:
east hockey wrote: You know, it never would have occurred to me to place the Falls ahead of Marshall. Until I compared their record against common opponents, that is, and saw both teams were 3-0, with a slight edge in goal differential to Falls. Very interesting.

Lee
Assuming I Falls and Marshall go undefeated in 7A and common opponents and goal difference is a major factor in the #1 seed; then most of the common opposition/goal dif. will have to be divided by 2 for a average, as I Falls found room to play these teams twice in their schedule. Very interesting indeed.
Marshall only has one section game left and that is against Virginia in Virginia on Feb. 5th. These two teams haven't played for years and there is some animosity between the two coaches. If there is a chance for an upset, it would probably be here. Virginia also plays up in the Falls, where historically they've struggled, so an upset would seem unlikely. Hibbing hosts I Falls on Jan. 31, thats probably the only other realistic shot at one of the top two losing, although I Falls still has 7 games against section opponents left on their schedule.
So, is East right about common teams and goal diff.? or does overall record, strength of schedule, etc... come into play. I assume all of it does. Also, when you talk about the two teams and animosity. Do you mean DM and Virginia or DM and I Falls? If its a popularity contest; DM seems to have the deck stacked against them as Eveleth has had some hard feelings for DM in the past. All this leads me to believe they should have left the sections alone. The geographical excuse is bs.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:29 pm
by rinkratman
lets do a little comparing. first I falls has a weaker schedual then DM. that is why their record is what it is for the falls. if DM had that schedual they would be undefeated. they wouldnt lose to fort francis. another thing to look at is who is on each team. first the falls has jake yuso. thats it. now for DM, they have 2 of the top 3 D in the state landon olson and dano jaques. they have dave hafferty,pat mahony, zach mausolf, and a few others that are right up there with them. also goal tending. willie paul was an alternate for the national team and shows that he is the better goalie for DM. this team has what it takes to go to the show again for the 4th year in a row. i falls is out and DM is in.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:16 pm
by theref
rinkratman wrote:lets do a little comparing. first I falls has a weaker schedual then DM. that is why their record is what it is for the falls. if DM had that schedual they would be undefeated. they wouldnt lose to fort francis. another thing to look at is who is on each team. first the falls has jake yuso. thats it. now for DM, they have 2 of the top 3 D in the state landon olson and dano jaques. they have dave hafferty,pat mahony, zach mausolf, and a few others that are right up there with them. also goal tending. willie paul was an alternate for the national team and shows that he is the better goalie for DM. this team has what it takes to go to the show again for the 4th year in a row. i falls is out and DM is in.
If you play for DM or are in any way part of the team, I think you'd better do some more scouting on the Falls and less on your own team. The Falls is deeper than you think.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:24 pm
by snapdog
I believe it will come down to 3 teams sorry Virginia. Marshall, I Falls, and Hibbing. You have to look at depth and these 3 teams all have it by what I saw in person. There is not a lot of difference in these 3 teams. With all the offensive firepower these three teams have it will still come down to who has the best d and goaltending. I give Marshall a very slight edge as I believe they have the best defense once again but what I saw. These 3 teams feature some great forwards in Youso, Decenzo, Hafferty, Mausoff, Jamnick and more. I,m loving watching hockey in section 7 again this season!

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:46 pm
by PuckRanger
snapdog wrote:I believe it will come down to 3 teams sorry Virginia. Marshall, I Falls, and Hibbing. You have to look at depth and these 3 teams all have it by what I saw in person.
I don't see the depth on Hibbing at all, I would say Virginia is much deeper. Hibbing only gets scoring from one line and one defenseman. Virginia gets it throughout their lineup. Neither are on par with International Falls or Marshall in my opinion.