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Private

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:13 pm
by pondyplayer93
Can anyone think of any rivalries between two private schools?

One that could come up would be AHA/BSM

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:15 pm
by minnesotajrstars
Breck vs Blake

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:19 pm
by Neutron 14
All of them.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:23 pm
by Goldy Gopher
Do St. Thomas and Hill have any sort of major rivalry?

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:23 pm
by Govs93
St. Paul Saints & Providence Academy.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:27 pm
by minnesotajrstars
St. Thomas vs Cretin-DH

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:24 pm
by Basil Chaps
Hill vs. Sta is a big conference game, but Hill's rival is WBL.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:07 pm
by Video Guy
Basil Chaps wrote:Hill vs. Sta is a big conference game, but Hill's rival is WBL.

1.AHA VS Shattuck

2.AHA VS Benilde

2.AHA VS Hill Murray

3. Benilde vs Hill Murray

4.CDH vs STA

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:15 pm
by karl(east)
Duluth Marshall-STA seems to be growing into a state tourney rivalry.

HM - STA

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:17 pm
by stpaul
Hill-Murray has played more hockey games (72) vs. St. Thomas Academy than any other school. Historically it's pretty lopsided at 59-13. They have had 6 great games the past 3 yrs. HM is 4-2 in those games. They have played WBL 67 times (plus 4 more against Mariner).

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:54 pm
by Zamman
Someone please define what a rivalry is? played against eachother once, twice ten times?

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:02 pm
by Basil Chaps
As a Hill student I don't see Hill vs. Benilde as being a rivalry at all. The schools are far apart, Hill has only played Benilde 10 times. I was at the game early this year, not that many people showed up from either school. As for Holy Angels, people who know about hockey know that it's big, but there's no big excitement from the school, it doesn't help that Hill has never beaten AHA. The feelings towards St. Thomas, a generally strong loathing, is mostly from them destroying our football team every year and not much to do about hockey. Until the last few years the games between Hill and STA generally weren't close and people weren't that interested.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:08 pm
by HShockeywatcher
If we are only talking about private school rivalry, STA/CDH is the top. I'm guessing Blake/Breck is next.

Zamman, others may have different opinions, but when I think of a rivalry, I think of two programs who are competitive with each other, play each other on a regular basis, and draw a fan base.
For example, St Thomas and Cretin have been rivals since the late 1800s. I would say an rivalry in hockey they may have used to have was gone until about 5 years ago as St Thomas hasn't been good for a long time. Losing to Cretin wasn't a big deal since we knew we weren't good. In addition, the wins this year were wins over Cretin, but they weren't as sweet as a win last year would've been, as Cretin isn't that good this year.
WBL and HM, on the other hand, are both good year in and year out.

Just my two cents.

Basil Chaps highlighted what I was saying; the teams have to be pretty good. Look at Roseau/Warroad. Roseau is way ahead in the head to head standings, but they don't dominate every game, for the most part games are competitive. Sold out crowds. They could probably schedule the game in the cities and have the same people come to see it played.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:17 pm
by Basil Chaps
Zamman wrote:Someone please define what a rivalry is? played against eachother once, twice ten times?
I don't think it has to do with the number of games played. For example Hill has played Forest Lake 32 times, but no one would claim that there is any rivalry there. A rivalry has more to do with regularly playing good games against each other. Hill has beaten WBL 8 times in a row, but many of the games have been back and forth and close. The fans show up in big numbers, often selling out Aldrich or helping draw over 8000 fans to the coliseum, and everyone cares about the game, even those who don't like hockey.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:18 pm
by puckman22
STA DM isn't a big one but it's becoming one

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:20 pm
by Walter Sojack
Blake Breck... Same conference, same section. Play each other 3 times a year. Have a lot of history. Rivals in every sport

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:46 pm
by minnesotahockeyfan
Blake-Breck

I guess

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:41 pm
by pipes3030
Pretty much every team in the tri-metro, or should i say "private conference," has a nice rivalry with every other team. Blake and Breck are definatly at the top of the list though.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:53 pm
by hawkfan70
the private schools will all be big rivalries soon as the MSHSL is looking into creating one conference and one section for all the privates 8)

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:55 pm
by Govs93
pipes3030 wrote:Pretty much every team in the tri-metro, or should i say "private conference,"
For now.

Johnson & Como are going to turn that "dog and pony show" on it's ear next season... Get ready! :wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:46 pm
by pistol
hawkfan70 wrote:the private schools will all be big rivalries soon as the MSHSL is looking into creating one conference and one section for all the privates 8)
Does MSHSL stand for Mississippi SHSL now? Hope this state is not as bigoted as the bored.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:23 pm
by Zamman
hawkfan70 wrote:the private schools will all be big rivalries soon as the MSHSL is looking into creating one conference and one section for all the privates 8)
A conference is a good idea, but they need to make once conference for the Catholics and one for the rest of the privates. A private section is a bad idea. I know a lot of people like to see the public schools beat the privates and I know I would rather play in a section closed to home as opposed to playing Rochester Lourdes or Marshall.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:25 pm
by pondyplayer93
hawkfan70 wrote:the private schools will all be big rivalries soon as the MSHSL is looking into creating one conference and one section for all the privates 8)
they should not do that its fine how it is now

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:52 pm
by HShockeywatcher
I think it's funny whenever I talk to someone from the Marshall community or who went to Hermantown and they find out where I went to high school they act like they hate my school so much. I ask if it's because of hockey and they say yes. Hermantown, we've played once in probably the history of the schools and was an OT game. Marshall we've played only a handful of times as well and in the last few years.

Yes, the STA/DM will be attracting crowds for a while, but it's not a rivalry and won't be for a while.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:32 am
by winger91
hawkfan70 wrote:the private schools will all be big rivalries soon as the MSHSL is looking into creating one conference and one section for all the privates 8)
Give it up already.