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08-09 hornets
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:16 pm
by hockeywatcher4
What do you think? What will they do? Will losing gleason hurt them big time? Lets here it!
Re: 08-09 hornets
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:43 pm
by Hockeyguy_27
hockeywatcher4 wrote:What do you think? What will they do? Will losing gleason hurt them big time? Lets here it!
This will completely and utterly devastate the Hornets next year! Part of me wonders if they will now be forced to coop with St. Louis Park just to be competitive.
I'm just messing with you....Gleason isn't the kind of kid you can replace, however, I believe the Hornets should be stronger next year than they were this year relative to the rest of the State.
Re: 08-09 hornets
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:48 pm
by GopherHockeyRube
Hockeyguy_27 wrote:hockeywatcher4 wrote:What do you think? What will they do? Will losing gleason hurt them big time? Lets here it!
Gleason isn't the kind of kid you can replace, however, I believe the Hornets should be stronger next year than they were this year relative to the rest of the State.
The Loss of Joe Gleason will definitely be felt..from watching the Hornets play at the State Tournament he is truly a difference maker when on the ice and has big skates to fill. If Everson, Lee and Buddish all return they might just be back at the Xcel next year with a chance at winning it all.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:19 pm
by parrish4president
09 state champs, lets be serious
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:35 pm
by Reggie
Hate to say it, but cake at state.
Edina
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:33 pm
by northwoods oldtimer
With Giles behind the bench ain't going to happen. Wally Chapman...well than we are talking a very nice run for the Hornets,well into the future. It takes 3 lines, and Edina has the numbers. You need to use what is in the tool box. 2008 Roseau and Edina teams are proof of that as a short bench all season kills you in the big games when it counts.
Re: Edina
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:00 am
by O-townClown
northwoods oldtimer wrote:With Giles behind the bench ain't going to happen. Wally Chapman...well than we are talking a very nice run for the Hornets,well into the future. It takes 3 lines, and Edina has the numbers. You need to use what is in the tool box. 2008 Roseau and Edina teams are proof of that as a short bench all season kills you in the big games when it counts.
Timer, like many coaches, the thinking is that Giles has been burned by 4th line seniors and doesn't want to deal with any frustrated players so he cuts them. The myth is that Edina didn't have depth in the system. The reality is that the Hornets didn't have depth on the team because kids had been cut and others hadn't been put in places during the season to develop whatever confidence they needed.
Here's the good news...
Giles took the #1 seeded team to state last year and lost to Grand Rapids. He took the #2 seeded team this year and was a paper-favorite in the final game before succumbing to Hill-Murray. He certainly has learned from the defeats about an Achilles Heel. (One would hope.)
I think more interesting than the question of "Will Edina be good?" is "How will Giles handle the team?" Like a horse trainer, he may need to rest the guns (Everson, Lee, Budish up front) with an eye on helping others (Taft, Chapman, Gaarder, etc...) grow. It's a long season and an even further way off. We shall see....
Re: Edina
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:04 am
by lakec
northwoods oldtimer wrote:With Giles behind the bench ain't going to happen. Wally Chapman...well than we are talking a very nice run for the Hornets,well into the future. It takes 3 lines, and Edina has the numbers. You need to use what is in the tool box. 2008 Roseau and Edina teams are proof of that as a short bench all season kills you in the big games when it counts.
I agree with you totally oldtimer. I couldn't believe how much Giles shortened his bench in the tourney. With three games in three days and the depth he had, there was no reason to ride his horses like he did. They may be the most talented team next year but I doubt they win it. We could see a repeat of this years Roseau team, undefeated regular season then falter when it really counts.
Re: Edina
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:53 am
by The Huge Hook
northwoods oldtimer wrote:With Giles behind the bench ain't going to happen. Wally Chapman...well than we are talking a very nice run for the Hornets,well into the future. It takes 3 lines, and Edina has the numbers. You need to use what is in the tool box. 2008 Roseau and Edina teams are proof of that as a short bench all season kills you in the big games when it counts.
Couldn't agree more!!! Haven't we seen how the Giles "system" works on the big stage. This NHL grinding style (see: constant cycling) and a short bench from the very begining of the season does nothing to help the players actually improve during the regular season.
Wally has shown he knows how to win titles (albeit A). With what is coming through the Edina system, shouldn't we be seeking titles, not appearances????
The elite players that Giles coaches don't improve, they just get tired!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:41 pm
by scoreboard33
The biggest loss is not Gleason, it Cashetta. Yeah, he didn't play great in the state finals, but he was the best goalie in Edina by far and Edina needs to find a good goalie to replace him.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:50 am
by hockeywatcher4
scoreboard33 wrote:The biggest loss is not Gleason, it Cashetta. Yeah, he didn't play great in the state finals, but he was the best goalie in Edina by far and Edina needs to find a good goalie to replace him.
Johnny akeneny will be a solid replacement and in my opinion is a better goalie!
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:20 am
by ehshockey
hockeywatcher4 wrote:scoreboard33 wrote:The biggest loss is not Gleason, it Cashetta. Yeah, he didn't play great in the state finals, but he was the best goalie in Edina by far and Edina needs to find a good goalie to replace him.
Johnny akeneny will be a solid replacement and in my opinion is a better goalie!
Ankeny, Young, and Girard are all good goalies and all have a good chance of being on the team next season. Cashetta won't be as hard to replace as some think.
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:58 am
by hockeywatcher4
ehshockey wrote:hockeywatcher4 wrote:scoreboard33 wrote:The biggest loss is not Gleason, it Cashetta. Yeah, he didn't play great in the state finals, but he was the best goalie in Edina by far and Edina needs to find a good goalie to replace him.
Johnny akeneny will be a solid replacement and in my opinion is a better goalie!
Ankeny, Young, and Girard are all good goalies and all have a good chance of being on the team next season. Cashetta won't be as hard to replace as some think.
ANKENY WILL BE THE GO TO GUY!
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:29 am
by EHSFan08
Edina ABSOLUTELY has what it takes to win it all next year..but were saying that in march.
-the loss of Gleason is a KILLER, but with our juniors, we will make up for his speed and tenacity in other places.. like size, overall speed, and playing smart. I think Brendan Baker (Captain 09') will be a stand out this year starting along side Regan. He plays smart, doesnt turn the puck over and has a slapper that is to fast for most defensemen to even see. He will be the kid that replaces JG as our star defenseman.
... O, ya... did I mention we still have Zach Budish, Anders Lee, Marshall Everson, and a crop of sophomores that will step up.
Edina does have what it takes, but Roseau, H-M, Tonka, AHA, B-Ville are all strong teams and it will be a great 09 season... too bad ill be at college.
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:08 pm
by hockeywatcher4
[quote="EHSFan08"]Edina ABSOLUTELY has what it takes to win it all next year..but were saying that in march.
-the loss of Gleason is a KILLER, but with our juniors, we will make up for his speed and tenacity in other places.. like size, overall speed, and playing smart. I think Brendan Baker (Captain 09') will be a stand out this year starting along side Regan. He plays smart, doesnt turn the puck over and has a slapper that is to fast for most defensemen to even see. He will be the kid that replaces JG as our star defenseman.
... O, ya... did I mention we still have Zach Budish, Anders Lee, Marshall Everson, and a crop of sophomores that will step up.
Edina does have what it takes, but Roseau, H-M, Tonka, AHA, B-Ville are all strong teams and it will be a great 09 season... too bad ill be at college.[/quCaptains will be budish everson and baker
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:06 pm
by Hockeyguy_27
hockeywatcher4 wrote:EHSFan08 wrote:Edina ABSOLUTELY has what it takes to win it all next year..but were saying that in march.
-the loss of Gleason is a KILLER, but with our juniors, we will make up for his speed and tenacity in other places.. like size, overall speed, and playing smart. I think Brendan Baker (Captain 09') will be a stand out this year starting along side Regan. He plays smart, doesnt turn the puck over and has a slapper that is to fast for most defensemen to even see. He will be the kid that replaces JG as our star defenseman.
... O, ya... did I mention we still have Zach Budish, Anders Lee, Marshall Everson, and a crop of sophomores that will step up.
Edina does have what it takes, but Roseau, H-M, Tonka, AHA, B-Ville are all strong teams and it will be a great 09 season... too bad ill be at college.[/quCaptains will be budish everson and baker
Don't forget Jefferson and Holy Angels, both of these teams are in Edina's section and both exceptionally well coached and returning many players.
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:46 am
by hockeywatcher4
keep dreaming!
how many
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:55 pm
by jancze5
Honestly, I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
All in favor?
Re: how many
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:05 pm
by wbmd
jancze5 wrote:Honestly, I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
All in favor?
Re: how many
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:05 am
by TCQQL
jancze5 wrote:Honestly, I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
All in favor?
I 2nd that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:25 am
by GR3343
EHSFan08 wrote:
... O, ya... did I mention we still have Zach Budish, Anders Lee, Marshall Everson, and a crop of sophomores that will step up
Any truth to the rumors that all 3 may opt to the USHL next season?
Re: how many
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:41 pm
by O-townClown
jancze5 wrote:Honestly, I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
All in favor?
Jancze, too bad the HS and Youth forums are for discussion of HS and Youth hockey. Edina was Runner-up in HS, won Jr. Gold, qualified for the Bantam state tournament, won Pee Wees and placed both teams in the B final, had the best Squirt team, and had six of the best B teams in the 29-team D6 league. Yeah, nothing to talk about.
Who can give us another thread on the hockey program in Redwood Falls, Crookston, or Two Harbors.
You aren't seeing threads on Edina because they're Edina. This isn't Notre Dame football.
Re: how many
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:10 pm
by The Huge Hook
O-townClown wrote:jancze5 wrote:Honestly, I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
All in favor?
This isn't Notre Dame football.
Watch yourself!!!!!
like I said
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:10 pm
by jancze5
exactly my point otown....hence why I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
another vote...All in favor?
Ay
Re: how many
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:21 pm
by The Huge Hook
jancze5 wrote:Honestly, I'm Edina'd out between hearing about their mini mites to the squirts to the pee wees to the bantams to the high school...
Can we please lock all Edina posts so the rest of us can have a Hornet-free spring summer?
All in favor?
The title of the thread is '08-'09 hornets.......what did you think you were clicking?????? Are you a glutton for punishment????
Or did you expect this to be an NBA thread.
You should click on the Aaron Ness thread, I heard it is about time travel
