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out of the top 5 scorers in the state right now... who do you see slipping off, staying on, or rising up?

Who are the top 5 scorers, how many points and what teams do the play for?

HappyHockeyFan wrote:Who are the top 5 scorers, how many points and what teams do the play for?

RK PLAYER DIV TEAM POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG SHOTS SPCT
1 Benik, Joey North. SFR F 5 14 9 23 +4 2 2 1 0 0 2 4 3.500
2 Belisle, TJ North. SFR F 5 5 12 17 +3 4 2 1 0 0 0 1 5.000
3 Sachs, Jarrett Indep. NBR F 4 9 5 14 +5 4 2 0 3 1 0 1 9.000
4 Hanowski, Ben C. La. LTF F 3 10 3 13 0 6 0 1 0 0 1 0 .000
Anderson, Mike Tri-M. SPS F 3 3 10 13 0 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 .000


point totals are bolded

chiefofmedicine wrote:

HappyHockeyFan wrote:Who are the top 5 scorers, how many points and what teams do the play for?

RK PLAYER DIV TEAM POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG SHOTS SPCT
1 Benik, Joey North. SFR F 5 14 9 23 +4 2 2 1 0 0 2 4 3.500
2 Belisle, TJ North. SFR F 5 5 12 17 +3 4 2 1 0 0 0 1 5.000
3 Sachs, Jarrett Indep. NBR F 4 9 5 14 +5 4 2 0 3 1 0 1 9.000
4 Hanowski, Ben C. La. LTF F 3 10 3 13 0 6 0 1 0 0 1 0 .000
Anderson, Mike Tri-M. SPS F 3 3 10 13 0 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 .000


point totals are bolded

Benik, Delisle and Sachs will continue to score big because they are quality players and they dont play any real competition. Hanowski will continue to score because he is a STUD and they play a mostly if not all class A schedule. M. Anderson will be surpassed by the many better players that are on the list below him once they get more games in.

looks to me like M Anderson has the least amount of games played on that list....
however i'd agree with you, he will drop off but not by much. probably top 15. if you look at their schedule its pretty weak.
but yes they're are a lot of better players who will surpass him

The players with weaker competition have the advantage, but i'd have to go with ben hanowski to lead the state in points since he's been a natural playmaker all his life.

Looks like all the top scores as of now are from class A, with not much competition. I would like to see those top scorers play in the Lake, Suburban, Classic Lake or other tough AA Classes. There should be a leading scorer from each class.

yeah but pretty sure no one has started conference play yet at all, so what conference they come from as of now holds no real ground. I'd like to see those kids playing with a team in one of those conferences too, who is to say that wont only benefit the kid, having more talent around him.

chiefofmedicine wrote:yeah but pretty sure no one has started conference play yet at all, so what conference they come from as of now holds no real ground. I'd like to see those kids playing with a team in one of those conferences too, who is to say that wont only benefit the kid, having more talent around him.

Lake has been playing conference games since the opening night of the season

I think come seasons end that Danny Matson of Holy Angels will lead the state in scoring. He is a phenomanol player and plays on what is arguably the best line in the state. 72 points last year on 31 goals and 41 assists. He could reach 50 goals this year.

HappyHockeyFan wrote:I think come seasons end that Danny Matson of Holy Angels will lead the state in scoring. He is a phenomanol player and plays on what is arguably the best line in the state. 72 points last year on 31 goals and 41 assists. He could reach 50 goals this year.

Mattson is a great player. He should be in the top ten, maybe even top 5 in scoring.

hockeydude39 wrote:

chiefofmedicine wrote:yeah but pretty sure no one has started conference play yet at all, so what conference they come from as of now holds no real ground. I'd like to see those kids playing with a team in one of those conferences too, who is to say that wont only benefit the kid, having more talent around him.

Lake has been playing conference games since the opening night of the season

tahts a big conference, with a lot of good teams.
but why is it so far fetched to think that put a kid who is rackin up points, essentially by himself, against a weaker schedule, with a team in the lake conference... why couldnt he produce there? is that what you're implying hockeydude?

Great player should be up there at the end.-Matson

gopher1 wrote:Looks like all the top scores as of now are from class A, with not much competition. I would like to see those top scorers play in the Lake, Suburban, Classic Lake or other tough AA Classes. There should be a leading scorer from each class.

st. francis is AA

i heard that M Anderson really isn't very quality. Any opinions?

bloomington jeffersons faust will lead that state for defensmen in assists and goals by the end of the year
and herbert will lead forwards

thedoctor wrote:i heard that M Anderson really isn't very quality. Any opinions?

He's one of the top players in the Tri-Metro this year, if not the top player. Pretty good size and very skilled.

imbetterthenU wrote:bloomington jeffersons faust will lead that state for defensmen in assists and goals by the end of the year
and herbert will lead forwards

i disagree with herbert...sorry he's good but no way will he lead all forwards. he has 5 points and benik has more than 20 in about the same number of games. bloomington's schedule will not get many games blowout games in the lake conference, so there won't be games where he can have 6 points like benik is getting. benik's schedule will never be too tough except conference games against bsm and tg.

Sachs should fall with a short schedule.

who is staying on this list?


1 Hanowski, Ben C. La. LTF F 9 24 14 38 0 14 5 4 2 3 3 0 .000
Anderson, Mike Tri-M. SPS F 11 17 21 38 0 16 4 3 3 2 2 6 2.833
3 Benik, Joey North. SFR F 9 20 15 35 +11 2 3 2 1 0 3 7 2.857
Westin, Chris Iron . VIR F 12 16 19 35 +3 4 5 14 0 0 2 6 2.667
5 Paquette, Phil South. LUV F 8 17 15 32 0 0 1 2 1 0 1 0 .000
6 Wilczyk, Sam Tri-M. SPS F 10 15 15 30 0 20 2 3 2 2 2 2 7.500
7 Belisle, TJ North. SFR F 9 12 17 29 +9 4 2 2 0 1 1 5 2.400
8 Lee, Anders Class. EDI F 12 10 18 28 +20 16 2 3 0 0 1 21 .476
9 Bruggeman, Andrew Big 9. MKW F 9 18 8 26 +2 6 5 1 2 0 2 2 9.000
Everson, Marshall Class. EDI F 12 15 11 26 +21 14 2 3 1 0 3

chiefofmedicine wrote:who is staying on this list?


1 Hanowski, Ben C. La. LTF F 9 24 14 38 0 14 5 4 2 3 3 0 .000
Anderson, Mike Tri-M. SPS F 11 17 21 38 0 16 4 3 3 2 2 6 2.833
3 Benik, Joey North. SFR F 9 20 15 35 +11 2 3 2 1 0 3 7 2.857
Westin, Chris Iron . VIR F 12 16 19 35 +3 4 5 14 0 0 2 6 2.667
5 Paquette, Phil South. LUV F 8 17 15 32 0 0 1 2 1 0 1 0 .000
6 Wilczyk, Sam Tri-M. SPS F 10 15 15 30 0 20 2 3 2 2 2 2 7.500
7 Belisle, TJ North. SFR F 9 12 17 29 +9 4 2 2 0 1 1 5 2.400
8 Lee, Anders Class. EDI F 12 10 18 28 +20 16 2 3 0 0 1 21 .476
9 Bruggeman, Andrew Big 9. MKW F 9 18 8 26 +2 6 5 1 2 0 2 2 9.000
Everson, Marshall Class. EDI F 12 15 11 26 +21 14 2 3 1 0 3

Some of Benik's games are missing... he's actually at 55 points.

None of these guys would have 10 goals in the Lake or Classic Lake with a schedule against Tonka, Jefferson, Eden Prairie, Edina. There are ten players in each of those conferences that are better than any of these guys but won't get noticed on the "most points" scoreboard. What's more, with the exception of Mattson, none of the top scorers would have over 5 full strength goals. Measuring players by points without any judgment about who they play against no matter how good the "SEEM" is exactly why their parents are angry when they don't get drafted. I'm wondering if we all aren't the problem. We just accept someone as a great player because he can score against Meadow Creek (WHO?) or Providence Academy, or Holy Family. There should be a measurement about how many goals and points you get against top 20 teams, AA teams, and, finally, 5 on 5 points should be weighed higher. If you don't think the D1 coaches arent' looking at this you all need help. A guy who scores 70% of his points 5 on 5 in a atop conference is worth a lot more than a top scorer or a power play scorer in a weaker conference hands down.

cctndr30 wrote:None of these guys would have 10 goals in the Lake or Classic Lake with a schedule against Tonka, Jefferson, Eden Prairie, Edina. There are ten players in each of those conferences that are better than any of these guys but won't get noticed on the "most points" scoreboard. What's more, with the exception of Mattson, none of the top scorers would have over 5 full strength goals. Measuring players by points without any judgment about who they play against no matter how good the "SEEM" is exactly why their parents are angry when they don't get drafted. I'm wondering if we all aren't the problem. We just accept someone as a great player because he can score against Meadow Creek (WHO?) or Providence Academy, or Holy Family. There should be a measurement about how many goals and points you get against top 20 teams, AA teams, and, finally, 5 on 5 points should be weighed higher. If you don't think the D1 coaches arent' looking at this you all need help. A guy who scores 70% of his points 5 on 5 in a atop conference is worth a lot more than a top scorer or a power play scorer in a weaker conference hands down.

Since you are new to this forum, I don't get how you can say we overrate kids like based on stats because we clearly look at more than that on the board. That being said, Hanowski is one of the top players in the state, and A-Rated Player by the NHL Central Scouting and an SCSU rucruit and will get drafted. The others mgiht nto be D1 players or get drafted but they are still good players and a high point total is an accomplishment. I don't think any of us have gone only by point total in our evaluations of players and really have no clue what you are talking about.

cctndr30 wrote:None of these guys would have 10 goals in the Lake or Classic Lake with a schedule against Tonka, Jefferson, Eden Prairie, Edina. There are ten players in each of those conferences that are better than any of these guys but won't get noticed on the "most points" scoreboard. What's more, with the exception of Mattson, none of the top scorers would have over 5 full strength goals. Measuring players by points without any judgment about who they play against no matter how good the "SEEM" is exactly why their parents are angry when they don't get drafted. I'm wondering if we all aren't the problem. We just accept someone as a great player because he can score against Meadow Creek (WHO?) or Providence Academy, or Holy Family. There should be a measurement about how many goals and points you get against top 20 teams, AA teams, and, finally, 5 on 5 points should be weighed higher. If you don't think the D1 coaches arent' looking at this you all need help. A guy who scores 70% of his points 5 on 5 in a atop conference is worth a lot more than a top scorer or a power play scorer in a weaker conference hands down.

the kids cant help who they play against. and its not like the lake conference always has great teams across the board. plus who is say that if these kids were to play with kids that are suppossed to be better would that not make these kids better? playing with more skilled kids would only help them i think. espeically if they are playmakers.

and have you yourself see any of these kids play? and hanowski would be good anywhere. you just sound extremely biased and ignorant.