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Sorry, I didn't mean to create a new thread, but to respond to STCLOUDTECH's thread.

This Tech coach situation is a mess.

Players' ice time shouldn't be an issue. No coach owes any player ice time whether they are a senior or sophmore. The best players should play, period. Does everyone alwasy agree on who the best are? No. But that is a coach's decision. He's the one making peanuts and putting in tons of hours. And you can't have decision by committee.

I've heard the AD, Superindendent who is new and doesn't know squat, and the HR person have said they have received other complaints but won't say who. This coach deserves to know who is making complaints against him.

The only issues most parents had was they asked for more effective communication between coaches and players and that was it. Several met with the coaches at the group's request, and it was a good meeting. It appeared everything was moving ahead.

Yes, every coach is human, and every coach has strengths and shortcomings, but this fiasco shouldn't be about playing time. Rumor has it that the AD forced this coach to take all kids because two kids with Bantam eligibility were moved up (one is good enought to be playing varsity). So they have to take everyone and then people bitch if their kid (who otherwise may have been cut) doesn't get to play as much. Go figure.

I wish the best for these kids because this is a shame to do this to a team with four weeks to go in the season. Taking kids in the past and in the present who should have been cut poses problems for everyone and becomes a cancer on any team. This is a thankless job. At least teachers get paid pretty well -- coaches don't but they have all the crap to put up with.

Its sounds as if this has been handled very poorly by Tech's admin.  A temp solution should have been worked out behind closed door's and the season played out. It's not fair to the Coach or the other players to have to deal with this the rest of the season.  Come to an agreement, stick to it and let the COACH - COACH and the players play!![/u]

You hit the nail on the head. It was handled very poorly. What's more, the AD told the coaches that her investigation was over more than a week ago and no action would be taken. The parent or parents then went higher and now the Super is involved.

Yes, everyone should be evaluated in their job but let the job get completed, first. This really looks bad and it is going to split some of the kids and parents.

This can't be good for the team. Not during the season. I would guess some kids are gonna take alot of carp from others because of parents actions. Who knows what has been going on behind the scenes. I don't think its anybodys job to judge. Not from on here anyways.

Was there an article/story about this in the St. Cloud paper??

Being a High school athlete is about more than athletics, its a time to grow up and get ready for the real world where you will face non ideal situations and you need to learn to get through thoughs on your own. Its very unfortunete that the parents felt the need to get involved.

Why do the super and school board get involved. The A.D.s should have the final say. Why these situations play out like this all the time I will never know. Parents need to just be parents and enjoy their kids sports for what they are. We are sliding down a very slippery slope with parents being able to fire coaches behind false claims that are really about playing time. Admins everywhere need to stand up to parents and tell them that the word of the athletic director is what they are going with end of discussion. If a coach has physically harmed a kid in some way then they should be gone no question. Otherwise coaches should be allowed to coach and let these kids deal with playing time issues etc on their own and let them grow up.
I love this board for the hockey people who get it but to many times parents and others in some communities use it to bash coaches and kids. Some of the things said on here are slanderous and libelous to kids and coaches. I think the administers of this site should lock any post that bashes kids or coaches in the future.

You would be surprised as to how much this happens around the state. not just here in Cloud. It is a shame for the players and yes sometimes the coaches as well. It will be interesting to see how this plays out as the season winds down.

[quote="bluelineenvy"]Was there an article/story about this in the St. Cloud paper??[/quote]

No, there was not.

Good news. After meeting with and talking with a number of parents, they have reversed themselves at least for this year and have allowed the coach to rejoin the team. He was behind the bench in a 7-1 win tonight against River Lakes. I don't know what will happen next year. Rumor has it the coach just wants to finish out the year and then move on.

I've not been a big fan of the Tech coach, but this should not happen to him or any other coach during the season. However, knowing the group of parents that have come through the hockey programs in St. Cloud, I'm not totally surprised by something like this.

Chad, good luck and finish strong.

Blue and Gold:

You also hit the nail on the head. There are some parents who think their kids are destined to play hockey at a much higher level. Sadly, they and others have made up issues where none exist.

I believe the administration messed this up big time and have now tried to go back and do the right thing -- what they should have done in the first place. Let the team play and wait until the end of the season to do a review, but the review even then has to be fair and not look at issues like playing time, line makeup, varsity vs. JV playing etc. Those are not where administrators or parents belong.

Tech has a real opportunity to win Section 8AA this year with Roseau and Moorhead being just average AA schools. I hope they pull it off, it would be nice to have someone new represent that section. That would put a little egg on some people's face too.

greenway1969 wrote:Tech has a real opportunity to win Section 8AA this year with Roseau and Moorhead being just average AA schools. I hope they pull it off, it would be nice to have someone new represent that section. That would put a little egg on some people's face too.

Yep, I agree it would be funny, but just not sure if they will be able to pull it off. I sure do hope so, They are a good team to watch!!!

greenway1969 wrote:Tech has a real opportunity to win Section 8AA this year with Roseau and Moorhead being just average AA schools. I hope they pull it off, it would be nice to have someone new represent that section. That would put a little egg on some people's face too.

Tech is 10-4 on the season (if you count the Cathedral game as a win) but has not played the greatest of competition the past couple weeks. This week will be a great midway evaluation for them as they play a MUCH improved Brainerd team at home, then visit a cross town rival in Sartell, and finish the week off against Roseau, in Roseau.

They have the talent to make a charge through Section 8AA, but it will take an edge. A little confidence and a good attitude can go a long way at the end of February and into March...

It's also going to take the Coach playing the right players at the right time. Lets hope that the the Tech Coach is allowed to coach the team to make a run at a section title without the interference of the Tech school administration.

greenway1969 wrote:Tech has a real opportunity to win Section 8AA this year

Are Miller and Maetche really leading this team in scoring from the blueline? That is, are they actually playing defense, or do they basically pinch on every rush? I haven't seen them play, so I'd appreciate some objective analysis.

The Exiled One wrote:Are Miller and Maetche really leading this team in scoring from the blueline? That is, are they actually playing defense, or do they basically pinch on every rush? I haven't seen them play, so I'd appreciate some objective analysis.

maetche is playing foward and miller is an offensive defensemen.

Miller is looking great this year at the point. As gunnerstahl said they have the talent but Tech doesn't have a good history in beating the teams they should. I guess thats why they play the games. I would expect them to beat Brainerd tonight but it could be close. The Roseau game will give us some insight weather or not they have what it takes.

gunnerstahl wrote:

The Exiled One wrote:Are Miller and Maetche really leading this team in scoring from the blueline? That is, are they actually playing defense, or do they basically pinch on every rush? I haven't seen them play, so I'd appreciate some objective analysis.

maetche is playing foward and miller is an offensive defensemen.

Thanks... that easily explains Maetche. Does Miller get caught in the offensive zone often? In the defensive zone, how does he do at blocking shots?

The Exiled One wrote:

gunnerstahl wrote:

The Exiled One wrote:Are Miller and Maetche really leading this team in scoring from the blueline? That is, are they actually playing defense, or do they basically pinch on every rush? I haven't seen them play, so I'd appreciate some objective analysis.

maetche is playing foward and miller is an offensive defensemen.

Thanks... that easily explains Maetche. Does Miller get caught in the offensive zone often? In the defensive zone, how does he do at blocking shots?

miller doesn't get caught too often. his biggest accet is on the powerplay he does a good job getting pucks through and picks up lots of assists on rebounded goals.

gunnerstahl wrote:

The Exiled One wrote:

gunnerstahl wrote: maetche is playing foward and miller is an offensive defensemen.

Thanks... that easily explains Maetche. Does Miller get caught in the offensive zone often? In the defensive zone, how does he do at blocking shots?

miller doesn't get caught too often. his biggest accet is on the powerplay he does a good job getting pucks through and picks up lots of assists on rebounded goals.

Its asset. Anyways, no Miller doesn't get caught too often. When he does its noticeable because hes rarely out of position. Tech is overall a really good defensive team. Number 24 (Hansen maybe?) is quick but he could use a little meat on his bones, and should take a hard shot here and there. Too many times he gets it at the point and doesn't wind up.

puckluck19 wrote:

gunnerstahl wrote:

The Exiled One wrote: Thanks... that easily explains Maetche. Does Miller get caught in the offensive zone often? In the defensive zone, how does he do at blocking shots?

miller doesn't get caught too often. his biggest accet is on the powerplay he does a good job getting pucks through and picks up lots of assists on rebounded goals.

Its asset. Anyways, no Miller doesn't get caught too often. When he does its noticeable because hes rarely out of position. Tech is overall a really good defensive team. Number 24 (Hansen maybe?) is quick but he could use a little meat on his bones, and should take a hard shot here and there. Too many times he gets it at the point and doesn't wind up.

hansen is more of a see-the-ice defensemen, who gets the puck and finds someones tape. and his shot could definitely get a little better, but that will come with a little more size.

back to tech as a team. like puckluck said, very good defensively and have a great goaltender. come march, you never know...

i cant believe this it almost shows how serious they take the sport in the town if you fire a coach cause he is not playing fair lines that is a reason you will never make it to the state tournament this is not little kids youth stuff anymore i think its such a joke my home town probably has the coach that would be fired after one day at tech cause he will get in your face and make sure you know what you did wrong and he is not affraid to set someone down right on the bench beside him