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Well, that was certainly an eventful week, wasn't it? Trying to put these together turned into quite the headache after Upset Night in the NWSC. Suddenly the field of teams fighting for a state title appears to have grown, and though the team on top is inching away from the pack a bit, it's very difficult to sort everyone out.

1. Bloomington Jefferson
-Had their closest call of the season to date against Moorhead on Saturday, but came out on top. Though it shows how beatable they are, winning a game in OT against another good team is usually good for a team's confidence. They'll need it on Tuesday night.
This week: Tues at #2 Eden Prairie, Sat vs. Eastview

2. Eden Prairie
-Also had a close call on Saturday, blowing a 3-goal 3rd-period lead before winning in OT. Like Jefferson, they aren't winning with authority lately, but they're winning, and the competition in this poll isn't, for the most part. The showdown for #1 on Tuesday should be a great one.
This week: Tues vs. #1 Bloomington Jefferson, Thurs vs. Apple Valley

3. Duluth East
-The beneficiaries of the slaughter in the standings immediately above them. Sure, they're not playing very hard teams right now, but they are moving through their schedule with efficiency and leaving little room for doubt. The ugly losses are fading further into the rear-view mirror, and unlike many of the other top teams right now, there's no sense that they're getting beaten up physically or tired. Huge rivalry game Tuesday.
This week: Tues at Cloquet, Sat vs. Stillwater

4. Edina
-Suffered another loss that did not look good, but rebounded with a thorough dismantling of Wayzata. I'm giving them some benefit of the doubt, assuming that they've figured things out and are reverting to form. If that proves not to be the case, they'll fall a lot further next week.
This week: Thurs vs. Hopkins, Sat at Buffalo

5. Benilde-St. Maragaret's
-While the rest of the Metro gets caught up in the carnage, this team has very quietly and effectively gone about its business. Like East, they're doing it against weak teams, but they have won 7 in a row against MSHSL competiton and beaten the team immediately behind them in the rankings. Busy week ahead, with a big one on Saturday.
This week: Tues vs. St. Francis, Thurs vs. Totino-Grace, Sat at #10 Holy Angels

6. Minnetonka
-Followed up a huge win with a disappointing in-section loss that dulled the momentum a little bit. How they finish the season will be crucial for how they look going into the brutality of 6AA. The Wayzata game has major section-seeding implications.
This week: Thurs vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong, Sat at #14 Wayzata

7. Maple Grove(!)
-Welcome to the state scene, Maple Grove. A large, convincing win over Centennial was the stunner of the week and threw the NWSC and 5AA into an utter mess. They have a little time to rest on their laurels before the Blaine rematch next week. They're for real, and there's no doubting that now.
This week: Thurs at Andover, Sat at Osseo

8. Centennial
-Just when it seemed like the Cougars were about to peak, they've hit a wall and suddenly have very serious question marks about them. I might have dropped Blaine and Centennial a bit far, but the middle of these rankings are very tight, and in this case I felt I had to give precedence to recent events. A very busy week ahead with two absolutely huge NWSC games on the docket.
This week: Tues vs. North Metro, Thurs at #11 Elk River, Sat at #9 Blaine

9. Blaine
-A very poor weak for a team that also looked very good last time I was ranking them. Again, the importance of the Centennial game cannot be understated, even if the rankings have changed a bit.
This week: Thurs at North Metro, Sat vs. #8 Centennial

10. Holy Angels
-They keep on sliding backwards in these rankings through no fault of their own. I feel a bit bad about it, especially when applying the same logic used for East and Benilde, but their overall achievements don't match those two teams, I had to make room for Maple Grove, and I couldn't bring myself to drop any of the higher-ranked losers any further. They have a real chance to prove themselves this week, finally.
This week: Tues at Hutchinson, Sat vs. #5 Benilde-St. Margaret's

11. Elk River
-The Elks crashed the NWSC party with a huge win over Blaine, finally beating one of the tough teams they've gone up against this year. Duluth East should be paying attention to what this team is doing now that they've made a statement. If they can knock off Centennial too, look out.
This week: Tues at Osseo, Thurs vs. #8 Centennial, Sat at Coon Rapids

12. Moorhead
-Looking at the body of work, this is a bit of a stretch. But the Spuds have proven over the past 8 days that they can play with absolutely anyone, and that maybe 8AA won't be such a pushover after all. This week, they can focus on shoring up their standing in the section.
This week: Tues vs. Brainerd, Sat at St. Cloud Tech

13. Woodbury
-They're continuing to win, but not in a manner that suggests they should be taken seriously at a statewide level. A pair of crucial SEC games this week will give us a better idea of where they stand.
This week: Thurs vs. Cretin-Derham Hall, Sat vs. Roseville

14. Wayzata
-Have done worse against Edina every time they've played them, which is really not a good sign regarding the direction they're headed in the state's deepest section. The Minnetonka game Saturday will be huge for them.
This week: Tues at Buffalo (seriously, of all the games this week, FSN chose this one??!!), Sat vs. #6 Minnetonka

15. Hill-Murray
-It's practically a toss-up between the Pioneers and Hopkins for this spot. I'm giving it to Hill for their first really strong win since The Incident, as they beat STA. A major section game looms on Thursday.
This week: Thurs vs. Tartan, Sat at Richfield
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With 2 weeks to go in the regular season, I'll do the section-by-section thing again.

1AA
No ranked teams.
Mayo has taken the lead in the race for the 1 seed, but it's still a mess involving the Lakevilles, and Century and Owatonna are capable of causing problems too. Same old story, essentially.

2AA
1 Bloom. Jefferson
4 Edina
10 Holy Angels
The real thing to note here is Burnsville, which nearly beat EP on Saturday. They've really come together and are capable of upsetting Jefferson in the section semis if enough things go right. If I had to rank them, I'd give them #17. Just what this section needed, another good team to cause problems.

3AA
13 Woodbury
I'm really not impressed by what I'm seeing out of Woodbury lately. Cretin has quietly won 6 in a row and is crawling back into the picture, along with a capable Eagan team and maybe Apple Valley too. Big game this week between Woodbury and CDH.

4AA
15 Hill-Murray
Who would have guessed...the #1 seed in the section will probably be decided in this week's Hill-Tartan game. Stillwater is playing terribly but for some reason WBL can't beat them. WBL is injury-riddled but talented and probably falls in around #18. And Roseville is still hovering in the picture too. A mess, and the matchups that result from the seeding may be very significant in deciding who ends up at State.

5AA
7 Maple Grove
8 Centennial
9 Blaine
The numbers say it all here. 3 very good teams with shots at the section title. Should be an excellent race down the stretch, and getting the #1 seed is very significant.

6AA
2 Eden Prairie
5 Benilde
6 Minnetonka
14 Wayzata
(16) Hopkins
Loaded and confusing. I thought the top 3 were separating themselves a bit, but then Hopkins had to go and upset Tonka. I wouldn't even try making a call on this one yet.

7AA
3 Duluth East
11 Elk River
This section's teams moved up the standings a bit this past week. It's still very much East's to lose, and as they seem wont to do, the top teams in the section are coming on strong at the end of the year.

8AA
12 Moorhead
Roseau, after seemingly putting to bed any chance of a southern team winning with a resounding 6-0 win over Tech last week, came back and tied them this week, leaving me very unsure about them. Moorhead appears to have a pretty good lead, but Roseau is still very capable of beating them.

Whew, there you go...looks to be another excellent week.

Nice job as usual karl!

I think the Blaine and Centennials call are good ones. Woodbury was a little tough to understand but makes sense after thinking more about it.

Moving DE to #3 seems a little to far north but arguable for now I guess

maybe a little to easy on BSM and Edina and a little tough on Tonka (The Hopkins loss was hardly convincing) but not bad in what was a tough week to rank.

Don't think it was as tough to keep Hopkins out of the top 15 as you say. Two overtimes against Tonka and Edina is more about FONS than anything else.

I think your call on Holy Angels is right on. I think they are due for a blowout ... maybe against BSM on Saturday.

As always - Very Nice Job! #1 and #2 are right on! #3 through #10 in my opinion could really be in any order. Except they way you have it is probably more right on in that the way those teams played the last week or two. Overall though I think Centennial and Blaine are stronger overall than their current ranking. Of cousre I am a bit biased and have paid the most attention to these two teams. When these two teams are on, they are much better than their current ranking. But I'm sure when the other teams are on, they are very tough too. It sure is going to be an interesting last two weeks! Thanks Again!

Yes, 3-10 was very difficult. It involved me staring at a few names on a sheet of paper for a while and being completely uncertain with what to do with them. But I am happy with the ultimate result.

Before I get accused too much of being a blatant homer, I'll say this about East: they're in a position where, even if they win out, I could see as many as 3 teams moving ahead of them. The winner of the NWSC, Edina-Tonka rematch (assuming no upsets), and maybe Benilde, with a big win over AHA, could all do it. I don't think this week's rankings are very good at all for deciding where teams will end up, but they show where we are today nicely.

I have two complaints with your rankings:

Eden Prairie at #2-They are not winning with any conviction and are only where they are because of the conference they play in. The Lake Conference is way down this year so place them in anyother conference and they're a 10-15 team.

Woodbury at #13-As you stated, they are winning, not blowing anyone out but grinding out wins which in my estimation will help come playoff time.

slapstkhound wrote:I have two complaints with your rankings:

Eden Prairie at #2-They are not winning with any conviction and are only where they are because of the conference they play in. The Lake Conference is way down this year so place them in anyother conference and they're a 10-15 team.

Woodbury at #13-As you stated, they are winning, not blowing anyone out but grinding out wins which in my estimation will help come playoff time.

Yes, EP is not winning with authority. But really, who is right now? Duluth East and Benilde, really, plus MG and ER, I suppose. Jefferson's not, Edina's not, Tonka's not, Centennail and Blaine aren't...so who else would be #2? There's no way I could bring myself to put East there. And if they really don't deserve it, then they'll lose Tuesday and be much lower next week.

On Woodbury, I generally agree that winning close games is good for a team come playoff time...when those wins are coming against teams that are also good. But 2-0 over Hastings, needing OT vs. Mounds View, and giving up 4 goals to an 18-loss Park team? I'm not buying that.

I agree for the most part but i think your taking it to hard on centennial and not hard enouhg on edina thats for losses i mean is it cause they are edina lets not forget cenntenial beat them of tv and lets be honest cenntenials losses were agains ranked teams also and only two i think edina should be about 7 cenntenial 6

karl(east) wrote:

slapstkhound wrote:I have two complaints with your rankings:

Eden Prairie at #2-They are not winning with any conviction and are only where they are because of the conference they play in. The Lake Conference is way down this year so place them in anyother conference and they're a 10-15 team.

Woodbury at #13-As you stated, they are winning, not blowing anyone out but grinding out wins which in my estimation will help come playoff time.

Yes, EP is not winning with authority. But really, who is right now? Duluth East and Benilde, really, plus MG and ER, I suppose. Jefferson's not, Edina's not, Tonka's not, Centennail and Blaine aren't...so who else would be #2? There's no way I could bring myself to put East there. And if they really don't deserve it, then they'll lose Tuesday and be much lower next week.

On Woodbury, I generally agree that winning close games is good for a team come playoff time...when those wins are coming against teams that are also good. But 2-0 over Hastings, needing OT vs. Mounds View, and giving up 4 goals to an 18-loss Park team? I'm not buying that.

hehe, jefferson's what, 19-0 now? half the games are blowouts, there's some authority in there

It seems like you are saying "Maple Grove and Elk River are push over teams and two of the state's best just lost to them." Why can't we instead say that "two of the state's best just lost two close ones to another two of the state's best?"

Maple Grove has two losses; to Centennial and Blaine. Elk River has 7 losses but play a difficult schedule and all 7 were to 7 of the states top ten. All season they have both dominated the teams they were supposed to, played close the teams they were expected to and lost by close margins to the state's top teams. Everyone called me crazy for putting both in my top 10, but they had done nothing to prove otherwise. Now they have done just that and they are still on the outside looking in? And crucify Blaine/Centennial for losing close ones?

I don't agree with Jefferson being at #1 (especially with the Moorhead OT win now), but if they are, the same logic puts EP at #2.

My top 15:
1. Centennial
2. Minnetonka
3. Edina
4. Blaine
5. Duluth East
6. Maple Grove
7. Jefferson
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River
10. Holy Angels
11. Benilde
12. Wayzata
13. Hopkins
14. Moorhead
15. Hill Murray

I can agree to disagree and your most recent post explains a lot. But one game doesn't make a season and this is how I see it right now. I could see any of those on my list taking state this year, and depending on who upsets out of certain sections, there are only a few who couldn't get the #1 or #2 seed at state.

redfirehockey1 wrote:

karl(east) wrote:

slapstkhound wrote:I have two complaints with your rankings:

Eden Prairie at #2-They are not winning with any conviction and are only where they are because of the conference they play in. The Lake Conference is way down this year so place them in anyother conference and they're a 10-15 team.

Woodbury at #13-As you stated, they are winning, not blowing anyone out but grinding out wins which in my estimation will help come playoff time.

Yes, EP is not winning with authority. But really, who is right now? Duluth East and Benilde, really, plus MG and ER, I suppose. Jefferson's not, Edina's not, Tonka's not, Centennail and Blaine aren't...so who else would be #2? There's no way I could bring myself to put East there. And if they really don't deserve it, then they'll lose Tuesday and be much lower next week.

On Woodbury, I generally agree that winning close games is good for a team come playoff time...when those wins are coming against teams that are also good. But 2-0 over Hastings, needing OT vs. Mounds View, and giving up 4 goals to an 18-loss Park team? I'm not buying that.

hehe, jefferson's what, 19-0 now? half the games are blowouts, there's some authority in there

Yes well they were blowouts against terrible teams. They also have a 1 goal win over Lakeville North (5-16), needed overtime to beat Lakeville South (7-14), and barely snuck by Moorhead (9-9-2) in OT. To me that's not exactly winning with authority.

HShockeywatcher wrote:It seems like you are saying "Maple Grove and Elk River are push over teams and two of the state's best just lost to them." Why can't we instead say that "two of the state's best just lost two close ones to another two of the state's best?"

Maple Grove has two losses; to Centennial and Blaine. Elk River has 7 losses but play a difficult schedule and all 7 were to 7 of the states top ten. All season they have both dominated the teams they were supposed to, played close the teams they were expected to and lost by close margins to the state's top teams. Everyone called me crazy for putting both in my top 10, but they had done nothing to prove otherwise. Now they have done just that and they are still on the outside looking in? And crucify Blaine/Centennial for losing close ones?

I don't agree with Jefferson being at #1 (especially with the Moorhead OT win now), but if they are, the same logic puts EP at #2.

My top 15:
1. Centennial
2. Minnetonka
3. Edina
4. Blaine
5. Duluth East
6. Maple Grove
7. Jefferson
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River
10. Holy Angels
11. Benilde
12. Wayzata
13. Hopkins
14. Moorhead
15. Hill Murray

I can agree to disagree and your most recent post explains a lot. But one game doesn't make a season and this is how I see it right now. I could see any of those on my list taking state this year, and depending on who upsets out of certain sections, there are only a few who couldn't get the #1 or #2 seed at state.

and i think i as well as many other people agree that jefferson at 7 and EP at 8 is an absolute joke

HShockeywatcher wrote:It seems like you are saying "Maple Grove and Elk River are push over teams and two of the state's best just lost to them." Why can't we instead say that "two of the state's best just lost two close ones to another two of the state's best?"

Maple Grove has two losses; to Centennial and Blaine. Elk River has 7 losses but play a difficult schedule and all 7 were to 7 of the states top ten. All season they have both dominated the teams they were supposed to, played close the teams they were expected to and lost by close margins to the state's top teams. Everyone called me crazy for putting both in my top 10, but they had done nothing to prove otherwise. Now they have done just that and they are still on the outside looking in? And crucify Blaine/Centennial for losing close ones?

I don't agree with Jefferson being at #1 (especially with the Moorhead OT win now), but if they are, the same logic puts EP at #2.

My top 15:
1. Centennial
2. Minnetonka
3. Edina
4. Blaine
5. Duluth East
6. Maple Grove
7. Jefferson
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River
10. Holy Angels
11. Benilde
12. Wayzata
13. Hopkins
14. Moorhead
15. Hill Murray

I can agree to disagree and your most recent post explains a lot. But one game doesn't make a season and this is how I see it right now. I could see any of those on my list taking state this year, and depending on who upsets out of certain sections, there are only a few who couldn't get the #1 or #2 seed at state.

Well put i agree 99% only thing i would flip is edina and duluth east well put though

If Benilde can beat the co-stars this weekend i would have to say that they would move up in the rankings thats all i got to say

HShockeywatcher wrote:It seems like you are saying "Maple Grove and Elk River are push over teams and two of the state's best just lost to them." Why can't we instead say that "two of the state's best just lost two close ones to another two of the state's best?"

Maple Grove has two losses; to Centennial and Blaine. Elk River has 7 losses but play a difficult schedule and all 7 were to 7 of the states top ten. All season they have both dominated the teams they were supposed to, played close the teams they were expected to and lost by close margins to the state's top teams. Everyone called me crazy for putting both in my top 10, but they had done nothing to prove otherwise. Now they have done just that and they are still on the outside looking in? And crucify Blaine/Centennial for losing close ones?

I don't agree with Jefferson being at #1 (especially with the Moorhead OT win now), but if they are, the same logic puts EP at #2.

My top 15:
1. Centennial
2. Minnetonka
3. Edina
4. Blaine
5. Duluth East
6. Maple Grove
7. Jefferson
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River
10. Holy Angels
11. Benilde
12. Wayzata
13. Hopkins
14. Moorhead
15. Hill Murray

I can agree to disagree and your most recent post explains a lot. But one game doesn't make a season and this is how I see it right now. I could see any of those on my list taking state this year, and depending on who upsets out of certain sections, there are only a few who couldn't get the #1 or #2 seed at state.

On the NWSC issue...first off, remember what I said last week about the fluidity of the rankings. Centennial and Blaine have just suffered losses and have had no chance to rebound yet, so I figure I need to penalize them. Edina looks a bit better than them in my eyes right now because they did have a chance to bounce back, and did so convincingly.

The other thing I take out of last night's upsets (And they are upsets. Yes, MG and ER are good, the rankings reflect that. Blaine beat ER 3-1 earlier this year, and ER hasn't really shown signs of improvement since then until perhaps the MG tie last week. MG also lost to Centennial earlier this year; it was only 2-1, but Centennial was without Pitlick at that point.) is the strength of the wins last night. Neither one was all that close. I couldn't keep teams in the top 5 when they lost to teams they've already beaten badly. Again, you might try to say the same about Edina, but Edina still has a more impressive overall body of work, and Centennial's win over them is discounted a bit by Blaine's bad loss. Based on how oddly parallel their seasons have been, I'm keeping Blaine and Centennial as close together as possible in the rankings.

The good news with the NWSC is that it will sort itself out in the next two weeks, unless they do something obnoxious like tying each other a lot. The cream should rise to the top, and I've set the standings in a way that no final result will cause serious upheaval.

One huge problem here, Centennial and Edina both lost this week to teams that i would say are about equal in strength yet you drop Centennial way down and Edina stays basically where they are?? Every week you are starting to seem less and less credible to me. Sorry but thats just the way i see it.

P.S. DE at 3??? Your kidding right

King of the Pond wrote:One huge problem here, Centennial and Edina both lost this week to teams that i would say are about equal in strength yet you drop Centennial way down and Edina stays basically where they are?? Every week you are starting to seem less and less credible to me. Sorry but thats just the way i see it.

P.S. DE at 3??? Your kidding right

It's easy to take shots at the rankings, but try to come up with your own first. After this week's games, it's a jumbled mess! Other than Jefferson at No. 1 (yes, that should be a no-brainer), that is.

karl(east) wrote:

HShockeywatcher wrote:It seems like you are saying "Maple Grove and Elk River are push over teams and two of the state's best just lost to them." Why can't we instead say that "two of the state's best just lost two close ones to another two of the state's best?"

Maple Grove has two losses; to Centennial and Blaine. Elk River has 7 losses but play a difficult schedule and all 7 were to 7 of the states top ten. All season they have both dominated the teams they were supposed to, played close the teams they were expected to and lost by close margins to the state's top teams. Everyone called me crazy for putting both in my top 10, but they had done nothing to prove otherwise. Now they have done just that and they are still on the outside looking in? And crucify Blaine/Centennial for losing close ones?

I don't agree with Jefferson being at #1 (especially with the Moorhead OT win now), but if they are, the same logic puts EP at #2.

My top 15:
1. Centennial
2. Minnetonka
3. Edina
4. Blaine
5. Duluth East
6. Maple Grove
7. Jefferson
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River
10. Holy Angels
11. Benilde
12. Wayzata
13. Hopkins
14. Moorhead
15. Hill Murray

I can agree to disagree and your most recent post explains a lot. But one game doesn't make a season and this is how I see it right now. I could see any of those on my list taking state this year, and depending on who upsets out of certain sections, there are only a few who couldn't get the #1 or #2 seed at state.

On the NWSC issue...first off, remember what I said last week about the fluidity of the rankings. Centennial and Blaine have just suffered losses and have had no chance to rebound yet, so I figure I need to penalize them. Edina looks a bit better than them in my eyes right now because they did have a chance to bounce back, and did so convincingly.

The other thing I take out of last night's upsets (And they are upsets. Yes, MG and ER are good, the rankings reflect that. Blaine beat ER 3-1 earlier this year, and ER hasn't really shown signs of improvement since then until perhaps the MG tie last week. MG also lost to Centennial earlier this year; it was only 2-1, but Centennial was without Pitlick at that point.) is the strength of the wins last night. Neither one was all that close. I couldn't keep teams in the top 5 when they lost to teams they've already beaten badly. Again, you might try to say the same about Edina, but Edina still has a more impressive overall body of work, and Centennial's win over them is discounted a bit by Blaine's bad loss. Based on how oddly parallel their seasons have been, I'm keeping Blaine and Centennial as close together as possible in the rankings.

The good news with the NWSC is that it will sort itself out in the next two weeks, unless they do something obnoxious like tying each other a lot. The cream should rise to the top, and I've set the standings in a way that no final result will cause serious upheaval.

How can you say elk river didnt show improvement yea they lost 3-1 first game to blaine out shot them almost 2-1 then they lose to your perfect edina team(a bit overated) 3-1 with an empty netter elk river was up 1-0 for two and a half periods in that one lose to #2 eden prairie 4-2 empty netter lose to holly angels 4-2 empty netter elk river was buzzing in that game and aha got a break with the empty netter they have not got run over by anyone despite playing one of the top five hardest schedules this year

talkofthetown17 wrote:How can you say elk river didnt show improvement yea they lost 3-1 first game to blaine out shot them almost 2-1 then they lose to your perfect edina team(a bit overated) 3-1 with an empty netter elk river was up 1-0 for two and a half periods in that one lose to #2 eden prairie 4-2 empty netter lose to holly angels 4-2 empty netter elk river was buzzing in that game and aha got a break with the empty netter they have not got run over by anyone despite playing one of the top five hardest schedules this year

You pretty much answered your own question with the line "have not got run over by anyone." The margins of defeat were relatively steady from the beginning of the season until late January. That's not improvement, it's consistency. Consistently slightly worse than the oppositon. They now appear to have turned the corner, which makes them a dangerous team.

And "[my] perfect edina team?" Seriously? Trust me, if they lose another game this year, they're going crashing into Karl (East) Ranking Purgatory. They've also got 12 wins against other top 15 teams. Minnetonka's got 5, Duluth East has 4, and no one else has more than 3.

HShockeywatcher wrote:It seems like you are saying "Maple Grove and Elk River are push over teams and two of the state's best just lost to them." Why can't we instead say that "two of the state's best just lost two close ones to another two of the state's best?"

Maple Grove has two losses; to Centennial and Blaine. Elk River has 7 losses but play a difficult schedule and all 7 were to 7 of the states top ten. All season they have both dominated the teams they were supposed to, played close the teams they were expected to and lost by close margins to the state's top teams. Everyone called me crazy for putting both in my top 10, but they had done nothing to prove otherwise. Now they have done just that and they are still on the outside looking in? And crucify Blaine/Centennial for losing close ones?

I don't agree with Jefferson being at #1 (especially with the Moorhead OT win now), but if they are, the same logic puts EP at #2.

My top 15:
1. Centennial
2. Minnetonka
3. Edina
4. Blaine
5. Duluth East
6. Maple Grove
7. Jefferson
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River
10. Holy Angels
11. Benilde
12. Wayzata
13. Hopkins
14. Moorhead
15. Hill Murray

I can agree to disagree and your most recent post explains a lot. But one game doesn't make a season and this is how I see it right now. I could see any of those on my list taking state this year, and depending on who upsets out of certain sections, there are only a few who couldn't get the #1 or #2 seed at state.

Please tell me your logic why Ep is 8, and how a average Tonka team is 2?

Mr.swampdonky,
-I "gave in" to putting EP behind Jefferson, so I put them right behind where I think Jefferson should be.
-Teams 1-10 on my list could probably all compete with each other. As of late, Tonka has been playing the best with wins over Edina, Wayzata, Holy Angels and Moorhead. All around they seem to be doing the best imo.

redfirehockey1,
why? because they manage to beat up on mediocre teams in the Lake with nothing else to prove. I would put EP higher with their close games against Edina but Edina has faltered.

dueling21,
You would say that in the same light would would hail Little Falls as the top #1 team.

talkofthetown17,
Edina beat Blaine who beat East. That's how I got that. But thanks

some of hshockeywatcher's logic doesnt make much sense to me like pointing out jefferson needing ot to beat moorhead while ranking a team who tied moorhead last week 1. But i do agree with him ranking maple grove where he did. I think the top 8 maybe 10 are all so close that it doesnt really matter.

jagopher21,
Moorhead is a talented team, no doubt, they have proven they can play with the best, but they have also they have shown they can lose/play close with mediocre opponents as well.
OT in 4 of their last 5 games.
Losses to Bemidji and TRF
Shut out by East, Edina and Hill Murray three games in a row
9-9-2 record currently.

They definitely have the talent to win multiple games at the X in March, but they've also shown they could make it and lose 2.

HShockeywatcher, I laugh every week when you try and make your own rankings. You sound like you have no idea what youre talking about. Are you watching different teams then everyone else? Let Karl post these and then you should not post comments that are absolutely absurd.

Karl's are always right on so leave them to the experts thanks!

HardF1 wrote:HShockeywatcher, I laugh every week when you try and make your own rankings. You sound like you have no idea what youre talking about. Are you watching different teams then everyone else? Let Karl post these and then you should not post comments that are absolutely absurd.

Karl's are always right on so leave them to the experts thanks!

HS prognostications prove that the THC in the dope he smokes is 400 times more potent than the dope he smoked 25 years ago

HShockeywatcher wrote: talkofthetown17,
Edina beat Blaine who beat East. That's how I got that. But thanks

Well in that case... Rochester Century is better then Minnetonka because they beat east who beat Minnetonka?