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Leddy or Buddish

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:06 pm
by HockeyMN1
Who would you rather have (when healthy) and who do you think will go higher in the draft?

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:14 pm
by starmvp
Buddish because he is such a force on the ice and he can get his team going better than Leddy can. It would have been really interesting to see what Buddish would have done this year if he was healthy. I think Buddish will go sometime late first round in the NHL draft and Leddy will follow in second round.

Re: Leddy or Buddish

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:33 pm
by biscuit in the basket
HockeyMN1 wrote:Who would you rather have (when healthy) and who do you think will go higher in the draft?
Good thing the Gophers will have both. :D

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:37 pm
by scoreboard33
I'd also say Budish because it is really hard to find big forwards who can score like Budish, its probably easier to find good offensive defensemen like Leddy, but I think their talent levels are similiar.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:51 pm
by Doglover
Both amazing hockey players, but I have to go with Budish. He's smart, strong, talented and unselfish and makes the players around him better. Leddy is great as well I and I look forward to watching them both play as Gophers!! Budish first round, Leddy second.

Re: Leddy or Buddish

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:21 pm
by HockeyMN1
biscuit in the basket wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:Who would you rather have (when healthy) and who do you think will go higher in the draft?
Good thing the Gophers will have both. :D
Yea but Buddish is going to the Juniors for a year so they will only be on the same team if Leddy sticks around for a while. Personally I think both are potential NHL all stars.

Re: Leddy or Buddish

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:25 pm
by starmvp
HockeyMN1 wrote:
biscuit in the basket wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:Who would you rather have (when healthy) and who do you think will go higher in the draft?
Good thing the Gophers will have both. :D
Yea but Buddish is going to the Juniors for a year so they will only be on the same team if Leddy sticks around for a while. Personally I think both are potential NHL all stars.
Definitely. So Buddish is for sure going to Juniors for a year?

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:04 pm
by chuckapuckguru
Not even a good question. The better question is Budish now (recovering from an ACL) or Leddy now (Healthy). That is more valid. I still say Budish hands down

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:10 pm
by Papa Bergundy
I have a good question: Budish or Buddish?

I always thought it was Budish but I still see people consistently spelling it Buddish. Can someone who knows 100% end this once and for all.

Maybe produce a birth certificate!? Then we can kill two birds with one stone to make sure he's not 25 or something.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:12 pm
by scoreboard33
Papa Bergundy wrote:I have a good question: Budish or Buddish?

I always thought it was Budish but I still see people consistently spelling it Buddish. Can someone who knows 100% end this once and for all.

Maybe produce a birth certificate!? Then we can kill two birds with one stone to make sure he's not 25 or something.
It is Budish. So you are right Papa Bergundy.

Chuckapuckguru, you are a complete moron, please shut up.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:05 pm
by Hockey_High09
scoreboard33 wrote:
Papa Bergundy wrote:I have a good question: Budish or Buddish?

I always thought it was Budish but I still see people consistently spelling it Buddish. Can someone who knows 100% end this once and for all.

Maybe produce a birth certificate!? Then we can kill two birds with one stone to make sure he's not 25 or something.
It is Budish. So you are right Papa Bergundy.

Chuckapuckguru, you are a complete moron, please shut up.
I'm gonna have to go with Leddy on this one because, as a D, he is able to play 50% of the game and when he's out there he is dominant. Not only is he a shut down defensemen, he is also a threat offensively and a cornerstone on their PP.

I believe it is Buddish...

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:21 pm
by Nostalgic Nerd
Really dumb question...what is Leddy's full-name and who does he play for?

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:25 pm
by The Exiled One
scoreboard33 wrote:It is Budish. So you are right Papa Bergundy.
Right
Hockey_High09 wrote:I believe it is Buddish...
Wrong

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:38 pm
by bananastick
Leddy, without a doubt. Could be the best skater in the state. He has explosive speed, great hands, great playmaker. I can only imagine his hockey IQ is very high and he see's the ice better than most. The game starts from the goalie out, if the defense can't move the puck, guys like Budish have nothing.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:29 pm
by Frank Mazzocco
Budish. I saw Ben Marshall last night for the first time this year, amazing player. I was suprirsed how strong he was for a little guy....He will be better than Leddy.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:39 pm
by midwesthockeyscout
I really don't have an opinion on who is the better player, since both are splendid players, but in terms of draft status, I can tell you, and even if Hockey Scout is around, too, he might throw his words into the mix, that big, scoring forwards are a dime a dozen, and defensemen that can control the game are more rare and much hotter commodities.

The top level scouts will have to believe that Leddy can elevate his defense at the next level in order to be a substantially high draft pick, because under this premise that I have seen over the course of the last few years, the trend has been to take the top talent on defense.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:44 pm
by Goldy Gopher
Nostalgic Nerd wrote:Really dumb question...what is Leddy's full-name and who does he play for?
Nick Leddy. Senior defenseman for Eden Prairie

really?

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:10 pm
by O-townClown
midwesthockeyscout wrote:I can tell you, and even if Hockey Scout is around, too, he might throw his words into the mix, that big, scoring forwards are a dime a dozen,
That's funny, because I know an NHL scout and he was talking at Christmas about how rare it is to see big players put the puck in the net.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:35 pm
by southernmnscout
midwesthockeyscout wrote:I really don't have an opinion on who is the better player, since both are splendid players, but in terms of draft status, I can tell you, and even if Hockey Scout is around, too, he might throw his words into the mix, that big, scoring forwards are a dime a dozen, and defensemen that can control the game are more rare and much hotter commodities.

The top level scouts will have to believe that Leddy can elevate his defense at the next level in order to be a substantially high draft pick, because under this premise that I have seen over the course of the last few years, the trend has been to take the top talent on defense.
An excellent skating defenseman that can move the puck like he can is a bigger asset to an NHL team come draft time than a big power forward. Now I am not saying that Budish is not an excellent player because he is.

I also think in this case on who will go first it will depend on who is drafting and what they need. I think they will both be picked fairly close to eachother. With all of this being said, I think Leddy will be picked first and Budish will follow shortly after Leddy in the draft. IMO

Budish question

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:15 pm
by O-townClown
No way of knowing, but I wonder if Zach Budish winds up being taken early than he would have been had he played his senior year.

The NBA Draft has always shown people can be tantalized by the unknown. Pavel Podklozine was a very early pick out of Poland. I follow the sport closely and have no idea what happened to him. A Frenchman named Weis went about 15th one year.

Re: Budish question

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:18 pm
by Goldy Gopher
O-townClown wrote:No way of knowing, but I wonder if Zach Budish winds up being taken early than he would have been had he played his senior year.

The NBA Draft has always shown people can be tantalized by the unknown. Pavel Podklozine was a very early pick out of Poland. I follow the sport closely and have no idea what happened to him. A Frenchman named Weis went about 15th one year.
Fun fact that shows I have not much to do with my time: He's currently playing in the Russian Super League for Khimki BC.

Re: Budish question

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:52 pm
by biscuit in the basket
Goldy Gopher wrote:
O-townClown wrote:No way of knowing, but I wonder if Zach Budish winds up being taken early than he would have been had he played his senior year.

The NBA Draft has always shown people can be tantalized by the unknown. Pavel Podklozine was a very early pick out of Poland. I follow the sport closely and have no idea what happened to him. A Frenchman named Weis went about 15th one year.
Fun fact that shows I have not much to do with my time: He's currently playing in the Russian Super League for Khimki BC.
Sounds like a better option than playing for the T-Wolves. :lol:

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:08 pm
by edinahornetkid24
never seen leddy play but Budish is very good so I have to say Budish.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:17 pm
by starmvp
edinahornetkid24 wrote:never seen leddy play but Budish is very good so I have to say Budish.
How do you know if you have only seen Budish play?

Re: really?

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:39 pm
by midwesthockeyscout
O-townClown wrote:
midwesthockeyscout wrote:I can tell you, and even if Hockey Scout is around, too, he might throw his words into the mix, that big, scoring forwards are a dime a dozen,
That's funny, because I know an NHL scout and he was talking at Christmas about how rare it is to see big players put the puck in the net.
7 of the top 15 players on Central Scounting's list are defenseman, and then only about 12 of top 30, then it drops off dramatically. This shows the premium on talented defensemen, that, sometimes, teams HAVE to draft for need.

I don't recall the whole draft board from a couple years ago, but when Erik Johnson was selected from the Gophers as the #1 overall pick to St. Louis, there were many who speculated there were better skilled forwards to choose from, but the need for a talent like Johnson was a rare commodity.