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Best all time state hockey tournament player?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:12 pm
by houndz4life
who has been the greatest player in the tournament? i know theres alot, but who has stuck out in our memories? from gino guyer to john mayasich? im gonna have to go with Dave spehar

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:15 pm
by starmvp
Greatest player ever in the state tournament? John Mayasich, he holds 10 individual state tournament records.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:12 am
by icechips
Spehar does stick out the most and i have watched the last 15 years of State hockey tournaments. He may be top 3 ever but nowdays its hard to judge because of all the changes since the old Henry Boucher ( sp. ? ) days. I just love how it gets better and better each year. I also like pat white from GR and Gino Guyer Greenway but there's been better proformances from others.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:15 am
by winter15
Jay Barriball!! Hands down...the greatest!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:43 am
by The Exiled One
Mayasich had 46 career State Tournament points and four Championships. Ben Hanowski has 24 State Tournament points, no Championships... yet.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:47 am
by BodyShots
The Exiled One wrote:Mayasich had 46 career State Tournament points and four Championships. Ben Hanowski has 24 State Tournament points, no Championships... yet.
Another dumb post from our friends from the north. :P "The Exiled One" pretty much sums it up. Now time to move on to the next topic.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:52 am
by adamp1914
Mayasich
Spehar
Ryan Kraft

in that order.

(Hanowski may make the list, but I pick them to lose to Breck)

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:11 am
by The Exiled One
BodyShots wrote:
The Exiled One wrote:Mayasich had 46 career State Tournament points and four Championships. Ben Hanowski has 24 State Tournament points, no Championships... yet.
Another dumb post from our friends from the north. :P "The Exiled One" pretty much sums it up. Now time to move on to the next topic.
I do think it's ridiculous for any player to be described as being in Mayasich's league, but I still give props to Hanowski's accomplishments. Anders Lee, for example, has appeared in the previous four state tournaments and has accumulated seven total points. adamp1915, I think you'll be adding Hanowski to the list, but the top guy on your list will never change.

greatest?

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:59 am
by ZEPETTAisGOAT
Def Spehar. . . . come on now.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:30 am
by SCC2009
spehar......mayasich played agaist people that didnt know the rules and wore catalogs for shin pads...no lie.....he wasnt that great, the talent is SO MUCH better now....mayasich would have been average/above average compared to todays players....his records don't hold much weight in my opinion, i know people think he is a god, but i just feel he was average for today, unreal for back int he days of catologs on shins...he played against staples for god sakes..they havent had a hockey team in 45 years at least.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:38 am
by starmvp
Mayasich!

Mayasich

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:47 am
by HOCKEYFREAK
You have to remember he had those points with 12 min run time periods. Like Maroosh (Mariucci) said, "Words are inadequate, He was a bigger, faster, stronger, backchecking Wayne Gretzky!"

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:34 am
by houndz4life
yep definently with all the discussion... dave spehar wins this one. mayashich too old, bad hockey, not enough competition. done

Good luck against small falls .. you already lost once in OT

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:40 am
by Stitch Lips
SCC2009 wrote:spehar......mayasich played agaist people that didnt know the rules and wore catalogs for shin pads...no lie.....he wasnt that great, the talent is SO MUCH better now....mayasich would have been average/above average compared to todays players....his records don't hold much weight in my opinion, i know people think he is a god, but i just feel he was average for today, unreal for back int he days of catologs on shins...he played against staples for god sakes..they havent had a hockey team in 45 years at least.
I'm not going to get into any name calling but I do recommend that you get a cat scan soon cathedral boy. Too many masses can have that effect on a guys cranial activity.

:P

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:28 am
by The Exiled One
SCC2009 wrote:spehar......mayasich played agaist people that didnt know the rules and wore catalogs for shin pads...no lie.....he wasnt that great, the talent is SO MUCH better now....mayasich would have been average/above average compared to todays players....his records don't hold much weight in my opinion, i know people think he is a god, but i just feel he was average for today, unreal for back int he days of catologs on shins...he played against staples for god sakes..they havent had a hockey team in 45 years at least.
He was the leading scorer for two US Olympic teams. I think he was pretty talented.

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:34 am
by adamp1914
SCC2009 wrote:spehar......mayasich played agaist people that didnt know the rules and wore catalogs for shin pads...no lie.....he wasnt that great, the talent is SO MUCH better now....mayasich would have been average/above average compared to todays players....his records don't hold much weight in my opinion, i know people think he is a god, but i just feel he was average for today, unreal for back int he days of catologs on shins...he played against staples for god sakes..they havent had a hockey team in 45 years at least.
Mayasich played during that time too. It's not like he had the advantages of knowing what the game is like now that other people didn't have. He was great for his time. Greater for his time than any other player has been for his time. Mayasich was better against his opponents than Spehar was against his.

I can't stand the argument of "yea well he wouldn't be good against today's players so he wasn't good."

You also going to say that Gretzky wasn't a great hockey player because he didn't play against Ovechkin, Iginla, Crosby, Malkin, Pronger, etc?

Every time someone raises the argument of 'he was only good because the competition wasn't as tough,' you completely fail to realize that you're suggesting that the great player in question somehow had some sort of advantage over them aside from just simply being better.

If Ben Hanowski still holds the state scoring record 20 - 30 years from now, are you gonna say, "oh yea well that doesn't mean anything because he played against people who didnt have <insert best available equipment 30 years from now> and he didn't play against <insert best players 30 years from now>?

This argument is so weak.

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:56 pm
by edinafast
Aaron Ness