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My daughter just got this invitation to something called Elite II run by the MGHCA. If this is Elite II, then what is Elite I?

And there are 8 different tryout sessions? That sounds like a lot of girls trying out?



2009 GIRLS ELITE II LEAGUE
September 19th – November 1st, 2009
The Minnesota Girls Hockey Coaches Association is partnering with Minnesota Hockey and the Herb Brooks Foundation to bring you the inaugural season of the Girls Elite II Hockey League.
Exposure is becoming more and more important these days. College Coaches are already looking forward to this league, knowing they can come and watch the best of the best compete against each other. Exposure is only one aspect of our league though. No matter how much exposure players get, if they don’t have the necessary skills and hockey sense, they are not going to be able to make the jump to the next level. We want players to develop and improve, so we are not just focusing on games, we want this to be a great overall training experience and a development league.
Your High School coach has identified you as someone who would be qualified to play in this league and we would like to cordially invite you to tryout.
 League is only open to those who played High School Hockey last year or who have used up their U14 eligibility.
 Tryouts will be held on September 12th and September 13th. All players must tryout.
 League Games will be on the Weekends of: Sept. 19, Sept. 26, Oct. 3, Oct. 10, Oct. 24 and Oct. 31
Skipping the weekend of Oct. 17 for MEA
Girls High School Hockey Regular Season starts Nov. 2
 All sessions will be Saturday and Sunday, mostly in the mornings to avoid conflicts with Fall Sports. College coaches would love to recruit 3 sport athletes, but with the pressures that everyone feels, more and more student/athletes are quitting other sports and focusing only on hockey. We STRONGLY encourage you to play a fall sport. Hockey should be fit in around your fall sport practices and events. Do not drop other sports just to train for hockey in the off-season.
 League includes; Skill Development, Games and Off-Ice Training.
The average player only has the puck on their stick for a minute or two in a game and while you get better every time you are on the ice, games are not the ultimate place to develop the skills that college coaches are looking for. Practices and optional off-ice training will be an integral part of our league. We have set up the league with mostly 2 hour blocks of ice. That time will be split up into 45 minute practices and 1 hour 15 minute games. In addition, the Herb Brooks Foundation has generously made available to us the use of the Herb Brooks Training Center up at the Schwan’s Super Rink.
 Staff: College coaches will tell you that they are looking for many things in the athletes they recruit. One of the things that they say is often missing is “hockey sense”, knowing the little things about the game. The coaches in our program will all be highly qualified high school hockey coaches. They will not just show up for the games to set lines and open doors. They will focus on teaching and pointing out those little things during both the drills and the games.
Fall League Details:
• Dates: Saturday’s & Sundays September 19th – November 1st, 2009 (Except over MEA weekend)
• 8 teams – maximum of 20 players per team
• High School Teammates will play together on the same team whenever possible
• 2 games/practice combinations per weekend
• League Fee: $350 per participant. No Refunds after September 11th
Tryout Details:
• All Players must tryout.
• Players are limited to participation in 1 tryout session only
• Tryout sessions will be 1.5 hours in length: 30 minutes of drills; 1 hr of scrimmage
• Tryout Fee: $25.00 per player. No Refunds after September 4th
• Tryout Dates and Locations:
Session Date Time Location
1 Saturday Sept. 12 11:50am – 1:20pm Schwan’s Super Rink 7
2 Saturday Sept. 12 1:30 – 3:00pm Schwan’s Super Rink 7
3 Saturday Sept. 12 1:50 – 3:20pm Schwan’s Super Rink 6
4 Saturday Sept. 12 3:30 – 5:00pm Schwan’s Super Rink 6
5 Sunday Sept. 13 9:00 – 10:30am Schwan’s Super Rink 7
6 Sunday Sept. 13 9:30 – 11:00am Schwan’s Super Rink 8
7 Sunday Sept. 13 10:45am – 12:15pm Schwan’s Super Rink 7
8 Sunday Sept. 13 11:15am – 12:45pm Schwan’s Super Rink 8
Here is what you need to do and send in:
1.) Fill out the enclosed Festival Application
• Make sure to check off your position.
Note: you will not be able to register as a F/D or D/F, you must decide before registering which position you would like to tryout for.
• Make sure to check off your First, Second and Third choices for when and where you would like to tryout.
2.) Register with USA Hockey: All players must be members of USA Hockey and must be registered as a player, Referee cards do not count.
• If you are a registered member for 2009-10 please send me (or e-mail me) a copy of your registration confirmation. You can download a copy at https://www.usahockeyregistration.com/r ... equest.jsp
• If you are not already a member, fill out the USA Hockey’s online registration form at usahockey.com. Click on Registration. Online. (located in the upper right corner), or go to http://www.usahockeyregistration.com/ select Ice Players & Coaches and register for the 2009-2010 Season. Once you have completed the registration, print the Confirmation Page and send me (or e-mail me) a copy of it.
3.) THIS ONLY APPLIES IF YOU HAVE U14 ELIGIBILITY for 2009-10 AND PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY LAST YEAR…
• If you fall in this group, you need a letter from your school’s AD on school letterhead stating that you did play High School Hockey last season. This letter can be obtained once the school year starts and can be brought to tryouts – you don’t have to send it in now.
4.) Make out 2 checks to the MGHCA – both need to be sent to be eligible for the league.
a. One for $25.00 (Tryout Fee)
b. One for $350.00 (League Fee) – checks for those players who do not get invited into the league will be shredded.
5.) Return all paperwork and checks to: Tom Maeckelbergh
20195 Connie Drive
Oak Grove, MN 55303
6.) Wait to hear when you are scheduled to tryout. Contact will be made via e-mail, so make sure to include your primary e-mail account. (If you do not have e-mail access, you will be contacted via phone)

IMPORTANT:
Please take the time to fill out this paperwork today. Choices for Tryout Dates and Locations will be granted on a first come first serve basis. Tryout spaces are limited so if you can only make one of the tryouts and it has already filled up we will not be able to accommodate you.
The APPLICATION DEADLINE is AUGUST 28th, 2009
Good Luck at the tryouts.
Respectfully,
Tom Maeckelbergh
Elite II League Director
e-mail: tmaeckelbergh@yahoo.com

The Elite programs for the girls are now being run similarly to the boys program. The upper midwest elite league is considered elite I. The Elite II offers opportunities for younger players that are not with the upper midwest league. The boys programs for Elite II typically ran 4 seniors per team and the rest made up of sophs and juniors. The Elite II for girls is just another way to allow young high school players an opportunity to play a competitive schedule of games prior to their high school seasons. As for the number of teams, in the past, each section has been represented - 8 sections = 8 teams. 20 or so players per team plus alternates, which would account for the large number at tryouts. It's a good deal for the players if you don't mind a little travel. The costs aren't extreme for the amount of games they get to play.

nothernewguy wrote:My daughter just got this invitation to something called Elite II run by the MGHCA. If this is Elite II, then what is Elite I?

And there are 8 different tryout sessions? That sounds like a lot of girls trying out?



2009 GIRLS ELITE II LEAGUE
September 19th – November 1st, 2009
The Minnesota Girls Hockey Coaches Association is partnering with Minnesota Hockey and the Herb Brooks Foundation to bring you the inaugural season of the Girls Elite II Hockey League.
Exposure is becoming more and more important these days. College Coaches are already looking forward to this league, knowing they can come and watch the best of the best compete against each other. Exposure is only one aspect of our league though. No matter how much exposure players get, if they don’t have the necessary skills and hockey sense, they are not going to be able to make the jump to the next level. We want players to develop and improve, so we are not just focusing on games, we want this to be a great overall training experience and a development league.
Your High School coach has identified you as someone who would be qualified to play in this league and we would like to cordially invite you to tryout.
 League is only open to those who played High School Hockey last year or who have used up their U14 eligibility.
 Tryouts will be held on September 12th and September 13th. All players must tryout.
 League Games will be on the Weekends of: Sept. 19, Sept. 26, Oct. 3, Oct. 10, Oct. 24 and Oct. 31
Skipping the weekend of Oct. 17 for MEA
Girls High School Hockey Regular Season starts Nov. 2
 All sessions will be Saturday and Sunday, mostly in the mornings to avoid conflicts with Fall Sports. College coaches would love to recruit 3 sport athletes, but with the pressures that everyone feels, more and more student/athletes are quitting other sports and focusing only on hockey. We STRONGLY encourage you to play a fall sport. Hockey should be fit in around your fall sport practices and events. Do not drop other sports just to train for hockey in the off-season.
 League includes; Skill Development, Games and Off-Ice Training.
The average player only has the puck on their stick for a minute or two in a game and while you get better every time you are on the ice, games are not the ultimate place to develop the skills that college coaches are looking for. Practices and optional off-ice training will be an integral part of our league. We have set up the league with mostly 2 hour blocks of ice. That time will be split up into 45 minute practices and 1 hour 15 minute games. In addition, the Herb Brooks Foundation has generously made available to us the use of the Herb Brooks Training Center up at the Schwan’s Super Rink.
 Staff: College coaches will tell you that they are looking for many things in the athletes they recruit. One of the things that they say is often missing is “hockey sense”, knowing the little things about the game. The coaches in our program will all be highly qualified high school hockey coaches. They will not just show up for the games to set lines and open doors. They will focus on teaching and pointing out those little things during both the drills and the games.
Fall League Details:
• Dates: Saturday’s & Sundays September 19th – November 1st, 2009 (Except over MEA weekend)
• 8 teams – maximum of 20 players per team
• High School Teammates will play together on the same team whenever possible
• 2 games/practice combinations per weekend
• League Fee: $350 per participant. No Refunds after September 11th
Tryout Details:
• All Players must tryout.
• Players are limited to participation in 1 tryout session only
• Tryout sessions will be 1.5 hours in length: 30 minutes of drills; 1 hr of scrimmage
• Tryout Fee: $25.00 per player. No Refunds after September 4th
• Tryout Dates and Locations:
Session Date Time Location
1 Saturday Sept. 12 11:50am – 1:20pm Schwan’s Super Rink 7
2 Saturday Sept. 12 1:30 – 3:00pm Schwan’s Super Rink 7
3 Saturday Sept. 12 1:50 – 3:20pm Schwan’s Super Rink 6
4 Saturday Sept. 12 3:30 – 5:00pm Schwan’s Super Rink 6
5 Sunday Sept. 13 9:00 – 10:30am Schwan’s Super Rink 7
6 Sunday Sept. 13 9:30 – 11:00am Schwan’s Super Rink 8
7 Sunday Sept. 13 10:45am – 12:15pm Schwan’s Super Rink 7
8 Sunday Sept. 13 11:15am – 12:45pm Schwan’s Super Rink 8
Here is what you need to do and send in:
1.) Fill out the enclosed Festival Application
• Make sure to check off your position.
Note: you will not be able to register as a F/D or D/F, you must decide before registering which position you would like to tryout for.
• Make sure to check off your First, Second and Third choices for when and where you would like to tryout.
2.) Register with USA Hockey: All players must be members of USA Hockey and must be registered as a player, Referee cards do not count.
• If you are a registered member for 2009-10 please send me (or e-mail me) a copy of your registration confirmation. You can download a copy at https://www.usahockeyregistration.com/r ... equest.jsp
• If you are not already a member, fill out the USA Hockey’s online registration form at usahockey.com. Click on Registration. Online. (located in the upper right corner), or go to http://www.usahockeyregistration.com/ select Ice Players & Coaches and register for the 2009-2010 Season. Once you have completed the registration, print the Confirmation Page and send me (or e-mail me) a copy of it.
3.) THIS ONLY APPLIES IF YOU HAVE U14 ELIGIBILITY for 2009-10 AND PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY LAST YEAR…
• If you fall in this group, you need a letter from your school’s AD on school letterhead stating that you did play High School Hockey last season. This letter can be obtained once the school year starts and can be brought to tryouts – you don’t have to send it in now.
4.) Make out 2 checks to the MGHCA – both need to be sent to be eligible for the league.
a. One for $25.00 (Tryout Fee)
b. One for $350.00 (League Fee) – checks for those players who do not get invited into the league will be shredded.
5.) Return all paperwork and checks to: Tom Maeckelbergh
20195 Connie Drive
Oak Grove, MN 55303
6.) Wait to hear when you are scheduled to tryout. Contact will be made via e-mail, so make sure to include your primary e-mail account. (If you do not have e-mail access, you will be contacted via phone)

IMPORTANT:
Please take the time to fill out this paperwork today. Choices for Tryout Dates and Locations will be granted on a first come first serve basis. Tryout spaces are limited so if you can only make one of the tryouts and it has already filled up we will not be able to accommodate you.
The APPLICATION DEADLINE is AUGUST 28th, 2009
Good Luck at the tryouts.
Respectfully,
Tom Maeckelbergh
Elite II League Director
e-mail: tmaeckelbergh@yahoo.com

Any Idea on Why the Minnesota Girls Hockey Coaches Association website is so uninformative about this stuff?

GR3343 wrote:The Elite programs for the girls are now being run similarly to the boys program. The upper midwest elite league is considered elite I. The Elite II offers opportunities for younger players that are not with the upper midwest league. The boys programs for Elite II typically ran 4 seniors per team and the rest made up of sophs and juniors. The Elite II for girls is just another way to allow young high school players an opportunity to play a competitive schedule of games prior to their high school seasons. As for the number of teams, in the past, each section has been represented - 8 sections = 8 teams. 20 or so players per team plus alternates, which would account for the large number at tryouts. It's a good deal for the players if you don't mind a little travel. The costs aren't extreme for the amount of games they get to play.

Does anybody have any information on the Elite program and also Elite II
Like when girls would be notified and is there anywhere that has up todate information on it. I found the Elite Website but there is only information from last year on it.

Good point. They're certainly not showing off their organizational skills. Kinda weakens their product if they can't even figure out how to explain it.

Here's the link to the Girl's Elite League,

http://www.girlselitehockey.com/index.htm

Don't know the Web address of Girls Elite II?

hockeya1a wrote:

GR3343 wrote:The Elite programs for the girls are now being run similarly to the boys program. The upper midwest elite league is considered elite I. The Elite II offers opportunities for younger players that are not with the upper midwest league. The boys programs for Elite II typically ran 4 seniors per team and the rest made up of sophs and juniors. The Elite II for girls is just another way to allow young high school players an opportunity to play a competitive schedule of games prior to their high school seasons. As for the number of teams, in the past, each section has been represented - 8 sections = 8 teams. 20 or so players per team plus alternates, which would account for the large number at tryouts. It's a good deal for the players if you don't mind a little travel. The costs aren't extreme for the amount of games they get to play.

Does anybody have any information on the Elite program and also Elite II
Like when girls would be notified and is there anywhere that has up todate information on it. I found the Elite Website but there is only information from last year on it.

The girls were nominated by their HS coach. Based on the notification we received on August 6th, most of the invites probably went out two weeks ago...
Here is a sample exerpt from the email my daughter received:

We are looking for the best of the best to compete and train with each other and your name was given to us by your High School Coach.

§ Tryouts - weekend of September 12th

§ League Games the Weekends of: Sept. 19, Sept. 26, Oct. 3, Oct. 10, Oct. 24 and Oct. 31

Skipping the weekend of Oct. 17 for MEA

Girls High School Hockey Regular Season starts Nov. 2

§ All sessions will be Saturday and Sunday mostly in the mornings to avoid conflicts with Fall Sports during the week and on Saturday afternoons.

§ Program includes

o Skill Development

o Games

o Off-ice training

Open the Tryout Invitation, Application and Schedule for more details.

Travel involved, but it may be some good hockey to prep for the season... and the price does not seem too bad either...

DmanDad1980 wrote:

hockeya1a wrote:

GR3343 wrote:The Elite programs for the girls are now being run similarly to the boys program. The upper midwest elite league is considered elite I. The Elite II offers opportunities for younger players that are not with the upper midwest league. The boys programs for Elite II typically ran 4 seniors per team and the rest made up of sophs and juniors. The Elite II for girls is just another way to allow young high school players an opportunity to play a competitive schedule of games prior to their high school seasons. As for the number of teams, in the past, each section has been represented - 8 sections = 8 teams. 20 or so players per team plus alternates, which would account for the large number at tryouts. It's a good deal for the players if you don't mind a little travel. The costs aren't extreme for the amount of games they get to play.

Does anybody have any information on the Elite program and also Elite II
Like when girls would be notified and is there anywhere that has up todate information on it. I found the Elite Website but there is only information from last year on it.

The girls were nominated by their HS coach. Based on the notification we received on August 6th, most of the invites probably went out two weeks ago...
Here is a sample exerpt from the email my daughter received:

We are looking for the best of the best to compete and train with each other and your name was given to us by your High School Coach.

§ Tryouts - weekend of September 12th

§ League Games the Weekends of: Sept. 19, Sept. 26, Oct. 3, Oct. 10, Oct. 24 and Oct. 31

Skipping the weekend of Oct. 17 for MEA

Girls High School Hockey Regular Season starts Nov. 2

§ All sessions will be Saturday and Sunday mostly in the mornings to avoid conflicts with Fall Sports during the week and on Saturday afternoons.

§ Program includes

o Skill Development

o Games

o Off-ice training

Open the Tryout Invitation, Application and Schedule for more details.

Travel involved, but it may be some good hockey to prep for the season... and the price does not seem too bad either...

So has anybody heard who has made the HS Elite team yet? I see their website has not been updated in a while.

It is my understanding that all those who tried out for the Upper Elite League have been notified if they were selected.
The Elite II league appears to be totally independent from the Elite I league. Key differences: Price - the Elite II league is 100 USD more than the Upper Elite I League. The Elite I league has 3 teams. The Elite II league is planning on 8 teams of up to 20 skaters. Good news is that you have a good chance to make the Elite II league if you try-out. Downside is that competition may get diluted across so many teams. My daughter has been told by some D1 college coaches that they intend to come see some Elite League I games. Elite II may be a bigger draw for coaches at Division3.

Thunderbird77 wrote:It is my understanding that all those who tried out for the Upper Elite League have been notified if they were selected.
The Elite II league appears to be totally independent from the Elite I league. Key differences: Price - the Elite II league is 100 USD more than the Upper Elite I League. The Elite I league has 3 teams. The Elite II league is planning on 8 teams of up to 20 skaters. Good news is that you have a good chance to make the Elite II league if you try-out. Downside is that competition may get diluted across so many teams. My daughter has been told by some D1 college coaches that they intend to come see some Elite League I games. Elite II may be a bigger draw for coaches at Division3.

which D1 coaches were they though?

Thunderbird77 wrote:It is my understanding that all those who tried out for the Upper Elite League have been notified if they were selected.
The Elite II league appears to be totally independent from the Elite I league. Key differences: Price - the Elite II league is 100 USD more than the Upper Elite I League. The Elite I league has 3 teams. The Elite II league is planning on 8 teams of up to 20 skaters. Good news is that you have a good chance to make the Elite II league if you try-out. Downside is that competition may get diluted across so many teams. My daughter has been told by some D1 college coaches that they intend to come see some Elite League I games. Elite II may be a bigger draw for coaches at Division3.

If I see it right it looks like it would cost an EliteI player $10.41 per hr of ice and it would cost the EII $15.62 per hr Elite I better deal if you can get in.

Maybe the difference is made up by the gate they charge.

talkhockey wrote:Maybe the difference is made up by the gate they charge.

Does any one know if they will be charging a gate fee and how much?

Can anyone explain the logic behind not allowing a girl w/ u14 elidgibility left, who hasnt played at the H.S. level, not being allowed to try out? I understand it is a Mn. hockey rule, they are affraid of losing girls at the association level. Thats what I was told anyways. I just don't see the conflict. I think the try out process will determine if the player goes H.S. or Assoc., not participating in a fall league.

Easy, Homer. I don't think the rules of this League are based on MH rules . As far as I know this is a private enterprise designed to give High School sophomores, juniors, and seniors the opportunity to play against a high level of competition. There is lots of ice time out there in Sept and Oct if your daughter wants to skate 7 days a week. You don't have to feel 'left out'.

Bensonmum wrote:Easy, Homer. I don't think the rules of this League are based on MH rules . As far as I know this is a private enterprise designed to give High School sophomores, juniors, and seniors the opportunity to play against a high level of competition. There is lots of ice time out there in Sept and Oct if your daughter wants to skate 7 days a week. You don't have to feel 'left out'.

Homer is right. The Elite I league (I don't know about the Elite II league) requires players to be registered with USA hockey. Under USA and MH rules regarding B&A (Before and After the season leagues sanction by USA/MH) a player that is eligible for U14 and has not played Varsity hockey in the previous year cannot play in this league. If a U14 eligible girl has played Varsity hockey in the previous year they have to get a letter from their varsity coach on school letterhead stating so to be eligible to play. My understanding is that the Elite I league registers their teams with USA/MH so that they can play multiple games against Shattuck. Shattuck is only permitted a limited number of games against teams that are not registered with USA hockey. By registering the Elite I teams, Shattuck doesn't have to use their limited exemptions.

The E-Mail from the Elite I said the rosters will be out by 8/28/09.

Got the same letter as DmanDad, and having some experience with the boys Elite II, would assume it's patterned the same. Not affiliated with the Elite I, no gate fees (at least there weren't before) the league is a USA hockey sanctioned league so the players must register before trying out and you must have played high school hockey the previous year or be age eligible to play high school hockey this year in order to try out. As for the price, I'd assume the Elite I is a little lower based on sponsorship.

OntheEdge wrote: Homer is right. The Elite I league (I don't know about the Elite II league) requires players to be registered with USA hockey. Under USA and MH rules regarding B&A (Before and After the season leagues sanction by USA/MH) a player that is eligible for U14 and has not played Varsity hockey in the previous year cannot play in this league. If a U14 eligible girl has played Varsity hockey in the previous year they have to get a letter from their varsity coach on school letterhead stating so to be eligible to play....

OK. So what? The point is that the league is designed for a certain group of kids. Why is it a problem to wait another year until the kid is eligible? I'm getting tired of parents at the arena running around making sure their kid gets included in every league, team, or program, especially when they're not quite old enough, because their kid is special and deserves to be on the ice with the older and better players. It sounds like that's the complaint here--"my kid might be a 14-year-old freshman with no HS experience, but she deserves to play with the best juniors and seniors in the state, and how dare anyone deny her that opportunity." What the hell's the difference if the rule is based on MH or USAH or simply the league's own rules.
There are 3-on-3 leagues, Showcase has a HS league, captain's practices are in full swing, CODP has something going on, and I'm sure there are lots of other options for a freshman this fall that I don't know about. Why is it a problem if this one league narrows the scope of who is eligible a little bit?

Amen!

These leagues are GREAT for girls hockey. If you don't like it.

CREATE YOUR OWN LEAGUE!!!!!!!!

Woo hoo,, I didnt mean to get some of you all fired up. LOL
I just dont see the difference between an incoming freshman w/ a year of H.S. hockey vs. one who played u14. Why not let everyone try, make more money off the increased tryout fees.
I believe the Roseau u14 played quite a few jv teams. Not sure , but Iwas told they held their own.
No sour grapes here, I just didnt understand. I personally enjoy the time off.

It does tick me off when people always question why their kid doesn't get invited.

These coaches put tons and tons of hours in trying to make girls hockey better and we all should be thanking them.

All girls can't be invited. Most are and if you have a special player how about emailing people involved before questioning it on a forum. If the player is truly that special. I'm sure they would take a look at her as they did last year. There were a lot of Jr. Sr. who didn't get the opportunity last year and had more to question.

I thought the league was very good last year and I feel it's more for the older HS player. Younger players will get their chance.

I'm sorry if I sound angry. I just don't want those involved with putting this league together to get frustrated and stop giving these girls the opportunity they never had before.

Melvin44 wrote:It does tick me off when people always question why their kid doesn't get invited.

These coaches put tons and tons of hours in trying to make girls hockey better and we all should be thanking them.

All girls can't be invited. Most are and if you have a special player how about emailing people involved before questioning it on a forum. If the player is truly that special. I'm sure they would take a look at her as they did last year. There were a lot of Jr. Sr. who didn't get the opportunity last year and had more to question.

I thought the league was very good last year and I feel it's more for the older HS player. Younger players will get their chance.

I'm sorry if I sound angry. I just don't want those involved with putting this league together to get frustrated and stop giving these girls the opportunity they never had before.

Why can't they all be invited for tryouts? whats it going to mean, an extra 50 girls trying out so an extra hour or two of ice time? There is an assumption out there that because someone is recomended by a coach that they are more worthy of a tryout. I don’t believe it. The world is not checking in with everyone to see what skills they’ve picked up over the summer, what idea they’ve concocted, what dreams they carry in their hearts. Hockey, both girls and boys is killing itself by excluding people and by the time they realize what's happening it will be too late and we'll be stuck with a small number of all star teams and a group of kids who used to play hockey.

Doc,

Not sure if you live in Minnesota but this is simply not true here, on the contrary we have so many opportunities for kids to play out of season that is hard to figure out what to do. This is a very good little leauge but I don't know why a 13/14 year old who has never even tried out for HS needs to be rushed in to a "HS" elite leauge. How can you be an elite HS player if youve never played HS hockey.

If she can play as well as her dad thinks she can their phone will ring. You can't hide a really good player in this state.

There are two different issues. If you'd like all sophomores, juniors and seniors who had varsity experience to be able to try out, I wouldn't argue with that. My beef is when the league narrows the pool a little bit by insisting on certain criteria with respect to age and playing experience and people don't respect it. Especially when there are endless other possibilities to be on the ice as much as you want this fall.
I've said this before, but some day when you see Winny at the arena have a 5 minute talk with her about girls' hockey. Even if you've never met her, chances are good she knows your daughter. You'll be amazed at how much she knows about the girls all the way down to U12. You'll see her at U12 and U14 tournaments, and at JV games. It's pretty incredible and there isn't anyone else like her in Minnesota.