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Does anybody know where the 12U A state tournament is going to be held this upcomming year 2010? Thanks

They're cancelling it this year and just sending the trophy to Eden Prairie

classic, LMAO

None of the tournament locations are posted on the MH website yet.
I'd bet anything that EP will win the U12A State Tournament in 2010. I would have bet anything at this time last year that Lakeville would win it in 2009. They finished 4th. Either I don't have a clue, or it's a good thing there's no gambling on 12-year-olds, or both.

Both EP and Edina have over ten kids back who played 12A last year, and they were both pretty damn good last year. At 10's this EP team was probably best in state, so the EP prediction isn't bad.

How did EP do against Wayzata or Centennial before you want to crown anyone best in the state at 10U, and if you want 12U predictions look north to either Thief River Falls or Grand Rapids two very solid clubs.

Believe it or not twin cities. Thief River Falls, if they keep everyone where they are suppose to be will be a very solid program to compete with. Remember last year their two best defenseman were actually U10 eligible. Moorhead looks like they will be having two teams an A and a B. They also had a great team at U10's two years ago when these girls were all second year players. Can theses teams compete with the 100 girls that tryout for the EP's and Edinas, we'll see but goaltending has everything to do with it.

To answer the original question, it would appear that the Tourney is at Cottage Grove.

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At the U10A level two years ago, I believe the Rochester team tied EP and beat Edina during the season, and also had a close loss to each of them as well...

But the fact remains that they played very well against both squads two years ago... does that translate to U12, maybe, maybe not as kids develop differently, but they should be a good team to watch this season...

Two years ago at the U10A level Moorhead beat Minnetonka in Moorhead's home tournament 5-3, Moorhead's has a very good goalie who ended that game with 50 some saves.

Rochester??? Studies have shown that one player (girl) can make a difference at the 10 level. But think about it, one player cannot make a end to end rush at the 12 level, maybe the 12B level, is that were Rochester is playing this year?

I think anyone who has been to select tournaments knows what player made Rochester go at the 10 level 2 years ago.

IMHO

Passthefoil wrote:Rochester??? Studies have shown that one player (girl) can make a difference at the 10 level. But think about it, one player cannot make a end to end rush at the 12 level, maybe the 12B level, is that were Rochester is playing this year?

I think anyone who has been to select tournaments knows what player made Rochester go at the 10 level 2 years ago.

IMHO

Rochester will have two U12 teams this year, U12A & U12B...

If one reads my post, I am simply stating that they should have a good team this year. A team to watch...
The Rochester team will have several good players at the U12 level this year.
I also agree that the game is markedly faster and tougher at the U12 level than U10, it is a big jump from U10 to U12, and remind you that this discussion is all about opinion and projections before the season starts...

As a former Vikings coach would lament, "Enjoy the Season" !
Hey hockey season is approaching, can it get any better...

Shakopee rode two girls to a state championship two years ago at 12UA. They didn't even play on a line together that much - each one throwing in 40 or so goals with very little support. So you still need to be wary of the teams with one or two exceptional players. And I think Rochester is probably a little deeper than Shakopee was. They usually play pretty decent defense.

But I'd have to agree with giving EP the early nod as favorites. They have a slew of girls coming back. Also, Lakeville will be top three also. Edina and Wayzata are always deep as well.

I also enjoy watching the North teams 'catch up' like they do in both boys and girls. They quietly take their lumps in 10s/squirts but usually get last laugh on us all

girlshockeyrocks wrote:Shakopee rode two girls to a state championship two years ago at 12UA. They didn't even play on a line together that much - each one throwing in 40 or so goals with very little support. So you still need to be wary of the teams with one or two exceptional players. And I think Rochester is probably a little deeper than Shakopee was. They usually play pretty decent defense.

But I'd have to agree with giving EP the early nod as favorites. They have a slew of girls coming back. Also, Lakeville will be top three also. Edina and Wayzata are always deep as well.

I also enjoy watching the North teams 'catch up' like they do in both boys and girls. They quietly take their lumps in 10s/squirts but usually get last laugh on us all

I think that Shakopee team was one of the smaller teams I have seen, maybe 10 skaters and 1 goalie. I thought last year we would see more teams try that but seemed like 3 full lines and 2 goalies is still the standard. If you think about cutting some of the smaller association A teams down to 2 lines it might tip the balance a bit (although you better hope to avoid the flu).

As I stated in one of the other posts, I think Proctor and Duluth hold the most promise for the 12's and 14's. Duluth had a solid 10A team last year. I don't know how many are moving up, but they've got good coaching there and they always seem to pick up speed and compete very well as they get older. Rumor is that they'll have an A team this year if the numbers hold up. Cloquet has numbers and so do Grand Rapids. Both of those clubs have two teams. Grand Rapids has got a couple of speedy kids, and Cloquet always seems to manage a god team.

Moorehead will do well, but I'm not so sure about Roseau and IFalls. My bet is on Duluth as a sleeper- maybe not this year, but possibly next?

Iam not sure but I dont think Grand Rapids or Cloquet or the other teams you mentioned are 12U A?

I just checked and Grand Rapids is an A team but they were very weak last year

HockeyDad35 wrote:Iam not sure but I dont think Grand Rapids or Cloquet or the other teams you mentioned are 12U A?

Yes, I was just saying that they have the numbers. I'll bet Cloquet will develop an A team within a year. Duluth had one last year and did well. I know Grand Rapids had one, but I didn't know how they did. I saw the Duluth team in the paper a few times winning some tournaments. Their record isn't on their site, although I did see a video on youtube that had highlights from one of the tournaments in the cities they won. It went to a shootout and Duluth won. They've got some good coaches in Duluth, although their 14 coach took the high school position. The 10's were coached by a Kovalchuk I think. I don't know if its any relation to the Thrasher...

No, I don't think Duluth had a 12A team--the tournaments I remember they played as a B team. They weren't in the Olympic region 12A tournament, which is hard to avoid since there are so few A teams in that region.

jollyroger wrote:No, I don't think Duluth had a 12A team--the tournaments I remember they played as a B team. They weren't in the Olympic region 12A tournament, which is hard to avoid since there are so few A teams in that region.

I'm getting everyone confused. Duluth had a 10A team last year. That's what I was referring to. I'll bet they have a 12A team this year, or for sure next. My Cloquet friends said last years 10A was old, so most will be moving up.

It would be great to see Duluth put out a 12A squad. ZIt is hard to believe with the numbers and qulaity they have on the boys side that they can't compete at the A level. I suspect they might lose some girls to the boys side???

As for the 10 coach...unless he's from Russia....there's no relation to the Thrashers Kovalchuk.

Here were the 12A teams from last years olympic region.

Roseau
Thief River Falls
East Grand Forks
Moorhead
Brainerd
Grand Rapids
Warroad
Bemidji

These were the only 12A teams in outstate, Everyone else had elected to go B because of numbers issues, or just being competitive at that level. This year may be a different story as Roseau will probably have a A and B and Moorhead is looking at a A and B also.

Pens4 wrote:It would be great to see Duluth put out a 12A squad. ZIt is hard to believe with the numbers and qulaity they have on the boys side that they can't compete at the A level. I suspect they might lose some girls to the boys side???

As for the 10 coach...unless he's from Russia....there's no relation to the Thrashers Kovalchuk.

Somebody said his brother played in the NHL, and that he played D1. I don't know if he likes Vodka or nyet. Duluth has an old school neighborhood rink program that will continue to hurt their numbers until they change. It's kind of a joke to those who understand their motus operandi. I heard they tried to do away with A teams at the squirt level this year. I don't know if they'll follow through or not. They need new leadership and a new system that mirrors all the other big cities in the state. Then they would play for Duluth instead of some broken down neighborhood organization full of nepotism. I don't know how that works having neighborhood rinks that competes with the girls program under the unbrella of the Duluth association...

The Duluth coach is Konawalchuk.

redlightclub wrote:The Duluth coach is Konawalchuk.

I bet his brother played with the Caps. Polish maybe? Denver alumni?
Good hockey family. No disrespect intneded by mistaking him with the Ruski...