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Anybody know if they have released the tournament schedule played at the X over Christmas break? I was told that the gold devision might have 16 teams this year? Any validity to that?

2009 Schwan Cup
There will be four brackets instead of three for the annual Schwan Cup high school varsity hockey tournament this year. It will be held from December 28th through December 30th.

Each bracket's championship game will be held at the Xcel Energy Center on January 1st:
Gold: 8:30 PM, Silver: 6:00 PM, Bronze: 3:00 PM: Open: 12:30 PM.

Here are the quarterfinal match-ups for the four brackets:

Gold Bracket | Location: Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, MN

December 28th | Quarterfinals

12:30 PM: Academy of Holy Angels (2AA) vs. Minnetonka (6AA)
3:00 PM: St. Thomas Academy (4A) vs. White Bear Lake (4AA)
6:00 PM: Blaine (5AA) vs. Hill-Murray (4AA)
8:30 PM: Duluth East (7AA) vs. Edina (2AA)
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Silver Bracket | Location: Roseville Ice Arena, Roseville, MN

December 28th | Quarterfinals

12:30 PM: Cretin-Derham Hall (3AA) vs. Lakeville South (1AA)
3:00 PM: Breck School (2A) vs. Stillwater Area (4AA)
6:00 PM: Mahtomedi (4A) vs. Burnsville (2AA)
8:30 PM: Roseville Area (4AA) vs. Blake School (2A)
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Bronze Bracket | Location: Champlin Ice Form, Champlin, MN

December 28th | Quarterfinals

12:30 PM: Holy Family Catholic (2A) vs. Hudson (WI)
3:00 PM: Rogers (5A) vs. St. Paul Academy/MPA (4A)
6:00 PM: Orono (2A) vs. Sartell-St. Stephen (6A)
8:30 PM: Champlin Park (4AA) vs. Owatonna (1AA
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Open Bracket | Location: Brooklyn Park Community Center, Brooklyn Park, MN

December 28th | Quarterfinals

12:30 PM: Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake (8AA) vs. Providence Academy (2A)
3:00 PM: Northfield (1A) vs. Winona (1AA)
6:00 PM: Minnehaha Academy (4A) vs. Irondale (5AA)
8:30 PM: North Metro (5AA) vs. Marshall (3A

Looks like a solid tourney once again. I was worried that it'd be down this year since a lot of teams left, but I think Edina and DE went back on the other holiday tourney at SLP by BSM. Always more fun to play at the X.

interesting, no centennial this year....

blueblood wrote:interesting, no centennial this year....

A lot of big name teams including Centennial have chosen to play in this St louis Park tourney
Heres the teams playing in it


Moorhead
Centennial
BSM
Wayzata
Maple Grove
Woodbury
Bloomington Jefferson
Elk River

blueblood wrote:interesting, no centennial this year....

When you lose in the first round, you are dropped to a lower division. They lost last year to WBL in round 1.

King of the Pond wrote:

blueblood wrote:interesting, no centennial this year....

A lot of big name teams including Centennial have chosen to play in this St louis Park tourneyHeres the teams playing in it


Moorhead
Centennial
BSM
Wayzata
Maple Grove
Woodbury
Bloomington Jefferson
Elk River

They chose this tourney over a sub division of the Schwan cup. That's what happens when you lose in the 1st round the previous year.

BodyShots wrote:

King of the Pond wrote:

blueblood wrote:interesting, no centennial this year....

A lot of big name teams including Centennial have chosen to play in this St louis Park tourneyHeres the teams playing in it


Moorhead
Centennial
BSM
Wayzata
Maple Grove
Woodbury
Bloomington Jefferson
Elk River

They chose this tourney over a sub division of the Schwan cup. That's
what happens when you lose in the 1st round the previous year.

No.

2005 Duluth East, Roseville, Jefferson all lost 1st round. All back in Gold division in 2006

2006 Duluth East, Roseville lose in 1st round AGAIN. All back in Gold division in 2007.

2007 Duluth East loses for the 3rd straight year in the first round. Not sure if they played last year or not. The results page on the site isn't working.

At any rate, Duluth East is back again for 2009.

Bottom line, it's not whether they lost in the first round in the previous year. The goal of the organizers of the Schwan Cup is to put the best teams that they can get committed in the Gold Division.

gitter wrote:2007 Duluth East loses for the 3rd straight year in the first round. Not sure if they played last year or not. The results page on the site isn't working.

At any rate, Duluth East is back again for 2009.

Bottom line, it's not whether they lost in the first round in the previous year. The goal of the organizers of the Schwan Cup is to put the best teams that they can get committed in the Gold Division.

East was dropped to silver last year--and again lost their first round game. The Schwan Cup has not been kind to the Hounds. Your overall point definitely seems to be right.

Gold looks great, but why is Cretin in the silver?

karl(east) wrote:

gitter wrote:2007 Duluth East loses for the 3rd straight year in the first round. Not sure if they played last year or not. The results page on the site isn't working.

At any rate, Duluth East is back again for 2009.

Bottom line, it's not whether they lost in the first round in the previous year. The goal of the organizers of the Schwan Cup is to put the best teams that they can get committed in the Gold Division.

East was dropped to silver last year--and again lost their first round game. The Schwan Cup has not been kind to the Hounds. Your overall point definitely seems to be right.

Unfortunately, much like the state tournament hasn't been kind to WBL.

And just so I'm not picking on only East and Roseville, Moorhead lost in the first round of 2006 and was back in the Gold division again in 2007.

Although quite impressively, Roseville finished 8/8 in 2005, 6/8 in 2006 and was still invited back in 2007 to the Gold.

I'm beating a dead horse now.

Any rate, looking forward to another good tournament at the X this year.

gitter wrote:

karl(east) wrote:

gitter wrote:2007 Duluth East loses for the 3rd straight year in the first round. Not sure if they played last year or not. The results page on the site isn't working.

At any rate, Duluth East is back again for 2009.

Bottom line, it's not whether they lost in the first round in the previous year. The goal of the organizers of the Schwan Cup is to put the best teams that they can get committed in the Gold Division.

East was dropped to silver last year--and again lost their first round game. The Schwan Cup has not been kind to the Hounds. Your overall point definitely seems to be right.

Unfortunately, much like the state tournament hasn't been kind to WBL.

And just so I'm not picking on only East and Roseville, Moorhead lost in the first round of 2006 and was back in the Gold division again in 2007.

Although quite impressively, Roseville finished 8/8 in 2005, 6/8 in 2006 and was still invited back in 2007 to the Gold.

I'm beating a dead horse now.

Any rate, looking forward to another good tournament at the X this year.

And White Bear has lost in the first round many times in the Gold Division while returning to the Gold the following years.

gitter wrote:

karl(east) wrote:

gitter wrote:2007 Duluth East loses for the 3rd straight year in the first round. Not sure if they played last year or not. The results page on the site isn't working.

At any rate, Duluth East is back again for 2009.

Bottom line, it's not whether they lost in the first round in the previous year. The goal of the organizers of the Schwan Cup is to put the best teams that they can get committed in the Gold Division.

East was dropped to silver last year--and again lost their first round game. The Schwan Cup has not been kind to the Hounds. Your overall point definitely seems to be right.

Unfortunately, much like the state tournament hasn't been kind to WBL.

And just so I'm not picking on only East and Roseville, Moorhead lost in the first round of 2006 and was back in the Gold division again in 2007.

Although quite impressively, Roseville finished 8/8 in 2005, 6/8 in 2006 and was still invited back in 2007 to the Gold.

I'm beating a dead horse now.

Any rate, looking forward to another good tournament at the X this year.

I guess I was wrong. The way it was described to me was that if you won in the first round the previous year, you are guaranteed a spot in the Gold division the following year. (Doesn't mean you have to accept it.) And if you lost in the first round, you were not guaranteed anything.

Oh well, it is always a good tournament regardless.

Its way to early but im going to say my preseason prediction for the tourny:
gold: hill over sta
silver: breck over mahtomedi
bronze: champlin over rogers
open: north metro over providence

rumor circulating that the 09' schwan cup will be the last..crossing my fingers that this isnt true!

I see one flaw in the schedg and thats Hudson showing up again. lets for once keep this a minnesota based tourny

grizzgreen3312 wrote:rumor circulating that the 09' schwan cup will be the last..crossing my fingers that this isnt true!

Legit source? I guess I wouldn't doubt it - the X is very empty for these games. It's almost like the Girls State Tournament. I can't imagine them breaking even based on renting the ice and the dismal ticket sales. Perhaps it will continue, but at a different venue...

gitter wrote:

grizzgreen3312 wrote:rumor circulating that the 09' schwan cup will be the last..crossing my fingers that this isnt true!

Legit source? I guess I wouldn't doubt it - the X is very empty for these games. It's almost like the Girls State Tournament. I can't imagine them breaking even based on renting the ice and the dismal ticket sales. Perhaps it will continue, but at a different venue...

Different venue? Well, there is this new 6,500 seat arena opening in about 14 months just a couple hours north of the X. That'd work for me.

Lee

east hockey wrote:

gitter wrote:

grizzgreen3312 wrote:rumor circulating that the 09' schwan cup will be the last..crossing my fingers that this isnt true!

Legit source? I guess I wouldn't doubt it - the X is very empty for these games. It's almost like the Girls State Tournament. I can't imagine them breaking even based on renting the ice and the dismal ticket sales. Perhaps it will continue, but at a different venue...

Different venue? Well, there is this new 6,500 seat arena opening in about 14 months just a couple hours north of the X. That'd work for me.

Lee

The new DECC will be a sight alright.....

Sorry, the Scwans will not leave the metro. I would guess they move it to the larger of the standard size rinks for all the tournaments. Aldrich, New Hope, Brooklynn Center, Richfield, maybe the Super rink I hope not.

Will see......

wbmd wrote:

gitter wrote:

karl(east) wrote: East was dropped to silver last year--and again lost their first round game. The Schwan Cup has not been kind to the Hounds. Your overall point definitely seems to be right.

Unfortunately, much like the state tournament hasn't been kind to WBL.

And just so I'm not picking on only East and Roseville, Moorhead lost in the first round of 2006 and was back in the Gold division again in 2007.

Although quite impressively, Roseville finished 8/8 in 2005, 6/8 in 2006 and was still invited back in 2007 to the Gold.

I'm beating a dead horse now.

Any rate, looking forward to another good tournament at the X this year.

And White Bear has lost in the first round many times in the Gold Division while returning to the Gold the following years.

You need to check your facts, WBL has not lost an opening round game in the last 5 years, And I'm not sure if they ever lost one. However, they have only made it to the championship round once.

wbmd wrote:

gitter wrote:

karl(east) wrote: East was dropped to silver last year--and again lost their first round game. The Schwan Cup has not been kind to the Hounds. Your overall point definitely seems to be right.

Unfortunately, much like the state tournament hasn't been kind to WBL.

And just so I'm not picking on only East and Roseville, Moorhead lost in the first round of 2006 and was back in the Gold division again in 2007.

Although quite impressively, Roseville finished 8/8 in 2005, 6/8 in 2006 and was still invited back in 2007 to the Gold.

I'm beating a dead horse now.

Any rate, looking forward to another good tournament at the X this year.

And White Bear has lost in the first round many times in the Gold Division while returning to the Gold the following years.

You need to check your facts, WBL has not lost an opening round game in the last 5 years, And I'm not sure if they ever lost one. However, they have only made it to the championship game once.

formerlybackofnet wrote:

wbmd wrote:

gitter wrote: Unfortunately, much like the state tournament hasn't been kind to WBL.

And just so I'm not picking on only East and Roseville, Moorhead lost in the first round of 2006 and was back in the Gold division again in 2007.

Although quite impressively, Roseville finished 8/8 in 2005, 6/8 in 2006 and was still invited back in 2007 to the Gold.

I'm beating a dead horse now.

Any rate, looking forward to another good tournament at the X this year.

And White Bear has lost in the first round many times in the Gold Division while returning to the Gold the following years.

You need to check your facts, WBL has not lost an opening round game in the last 5 years, And I'm not sure if they ever lost one. However, they have only made it to the championship game once.

But, in the history of the Schwan's Cup, White Bear has lost first round games and returned to play the following year in the top division.

I agree with gitter. The new DECC looks great in progress. Wouldnt be a problem getting a great atmosphere in there. Great looking rink from what ive seen of it.

Zamman wrote:Sorry, the Scwans will not leave the metro. I would guess they move it to the larger of the standard size rinks for all the tournaments. Aldrich, New Hope, Brooklynn Center, Richfield, maybe the Super rink I hope not.

Will see......

I didn't imply that it would. My post meant the new DECC will be a "sight" (as in to see) not a "site" (as in physical place).

If it does move to a different venue, perhaps the old "Capital City Classic" would make a return....