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HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:54 pm
by Goldy Gopher
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:05 pm
by PowerForward25
Why do you hate this kid so much? Yes he tends to cherry pick and doesn't play in a hard conference but 101 points is nothing to scoff at. Just cause your kid can't do that doesn't mean you need to find a way to bash Benik in every single topic or start one.
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:11 pm
by Goldy Gopher
PowerForward25 wrote:
Why do you hate this kid so much? Yes he tends to cherry pick and doesn't play in a hard conference but 101 points is nothing to scoff at. Just cause your kid can't do that doesn't mean you need to find a way to bash Benik in every single topic or start one.
It's because people like you think he's the next Wayne Gretzky and he's just flat out not. Is he an above average HS hockey player? Yes. Is the amount of points he puts up very impressive? Yes. Will he be a good player at the next level? Time will tell but I just don't see how anyone that has seen him play thinks he has a realistic shot to be good.
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:15 pm
by PowerForward25
Goldy Gopher wrote:PowerForward25 wrote:
Why do you hate this kid so much? Yes he tends to cherry pick and doesn't play in a hard conference but 101 points is nothing to scoff at. Just cause your kid can't do that doesn't mean you need to find a way to bash Benik in every single topic or start one.
It's because people like you think he's the next Wayne Gretzky and he's just flat out not. Is he an above average HS hockey player? Yes. Is the amount of points he puts up very impressive? Yes. Will he be a good player at the next level? Time will tell but I just don't see how anyone that has seen him play think he has a realistic shot to be good.
I never said he was the next Gretzky. I'm just sick of you always posting your opinion on him. We get it. You think Benik is overrated. Get over it.
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:17 pm
by Goldy Gopher
PowerForward25 wrote:Goldy Gopher wrote:PowerForward25 wrote:
Why do you hate this kid so much? Yes he tends to cherry pick and doesn't play in a hard conference but 101 points is nothing to scoff at. Just cause your kid can't do that doesn't mean you need to find a way to bash Benik in every single topic or start one.
It's because people like you think he's the next Wayne Gretzky and he's just flat out not. Is he an above average HS hockey player? Yes. Is the amount of points he puts up very impressive? Yes. Will he be a good player at the next level? Time will tell but I just don't see how anyone that has seen him play think he has a realistic shot to be good.
I never said he was the next Gretzky. I'm just sick of you always posting your opinion on him. We get it. You think Benik is overrated. Get over it.
You're in the wrong place if you don't want to hear people's opinions.
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:21 pm
by PowerForward25
Goldy Gopher wrote:PowerForward25 wrote:Goldy Gopher wrote:
It's because people like you think he's the next Wayne Gretzky and he's just flat out not. Is he an above average HS hockey player? Yes. Is the amount of points he puts up very impressive? Yes. Will he be a good player at the next level? Time will tell but I just don't see how anyone that has seen him play think he has a realistic shot to be good.
I never said he was the next Gretzky. I'm just sick of you always posting your opinion on him. We get it. You think Benik is overrated. Get over it.
You're in the wrong place if you don't want to hear people's opinions.
I like hearing people's opinion. I'm just sick of you bashing a kid every chance you get. When you said Benik was overrated the first time, i got it. This is the umpteenth time you have said something about him. Do you have an opinion about anything else other than benik?
Benik Blinders
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:21 pm
by blueblood
Goldy:
Not sure what you're smokin' rodent. They said the same thing of Johnny Pohl when he put up eye popping numbers at Red Wing: Can't skate, can't play, blah, blah, blah. I'm pretty sure he became a GREAT player in college and an NHL'er to boot
Lucia keeps missing out on the talent in MN. (Wehr's, common man. Fisher, he's a bust). If you're gonna sign players from teams like Holy Angels that play basically no one (like St. Francis) who put up big #'s (You know who I'm talkin'out right?), why not take a chance on the top scorer in MN?
BTW - I'm U of M graduate and a season ticket holder for 15+ years and the biggest Gopher rube around....
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:23 pm
by Goldy Gopher
PowerForward25 wrote:Goldy Gopher wrote:PowerForward25 wrote:
I never said he was the next Gretzky. I'm just sick of you always posting your opinion on him. We get it. You think Benik is overrated. Get over it.
You're in the wrong place if you don't want to hear people's opinions.
I like hearing people's opinion. I'm just sick of you bashing a kid every chance you get. When you said Benik was overrated the first time, i got it. This is the umpteenth time you have said something about him. Do you have an opinion about anything else other than benik?
If you look through my 2100 posts and look at the 2075 that aren't about Benik you'll find plenty of other opinions.
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:29 pm
by brandy38
here's my opinion: the preview sucked entirely.
They should get karl(east) and dueling as rankers, by the way
Re: Benik Blinders
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:40 pm
by east hockey
blueblood wrote:Goldy:
Not sure what you're smokin' rodent. They said the same thing of Johnny Pohl when he put up eye popping numbers at Red Wing: Can't skate, can't play, blah, blah, blah. I'm pretty sure he became a GREAT player in college and an NHL'er to boot
Lucia keeps missing out on the talent in MN. (Wehr's, common man. Fisher, he's a bust). If you're gonna sign players from teams like Holy Angels that play basically no one (like St. Francis) who put up big #'s (You know who I'm talkin'out right?), why not take a chance on the top scorer in MN?
BTW - I'm U of M graduate and a season ticket holder for 15+ years and the biggest Gopher rube around....
Problem is, you see, Pohl went to the Gophers. Benik isn't. Otherwise, Goldy would be singing his praises.
Goldy, we get it. Over and over again...we get it. Time to change your sig line.
Lee
Re: Benik Blinders
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:19 pm
by mngopherfan
blueblood wrote:Goldy:
Not sure what you're smokin' rodent. They said the same thing of Johnny Pohl when he put up eye popping numbers at Red Wing: Can't skate, can't play, blah, blah, blah. I'm pretty sure he became a GREAT player in college and an NHL'er to boot
Lucia keeps missing out on the talent in MN. (Wehr's, common man. Fisher, he's a bust). If you're gonna sign players from teams like Holy Angels that play basically no one (like St. Francis) who put up big #'s (You know who I'm talkin'out right?), why not take a chance on the top scorer in MN?
BTW - I'm U of M graduate and a season ticket holder for 15+ years and the biggest Gopher rube around....
The fact of the matter is, most kids that sign as HS Jr's are risks. Benik is no different. I've never seen him play, but it's curious to me why he would play in that lower JR. League instead of Elite...I hope the best for the kid, i love seeing non-traditional hockey areas produce division 1 talent.
Re: HS Dream Team
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:02 pm
by MrBoDangles
Goldy Gopher wrote:PowerForward25 wrote:
Why do you hate this kid so much? Yes he tends to cherry pick and doesn't play in a hard conference but 101 points is nothing to scoff at. Just cause your kid can't do that doesn't mean you need to find a way to bash Benik in every single topic or start one.
It's because people like you think he's the next Wayne Gretzky and he's just flat out not. Is he an above average HS hockey player? Yes. Is the amount of points he puts up very impressive? Yes. Will he be a good player at the next level? Time will tell but I just don't see how anyone that has seen him play thinks he has a realistic shot to be good.[/quote
Signing as a Junior
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:08 pm
by blueblood
If "most" players who sign (should read "commit") as juniors are risks, then most of the gopher recruits for next 2 seasons fall into that category, also, not just Benik.
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:20 pm
by HockeyMN1
How do you take Bjugstad over Rau??????????? Rau showed him up at state last year and he the focal point this year on the top line with Rogge and Erickson. Anyone who saw him totally take over the Blaine game at state last year would agree with me. Just because he is a little guy doesn't mean he isn't one of the best.
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:46 pm
by youngblood08
The problem is he comes from a Non-Traditional talent developing team. The fact he does not play defense, he plays in a very weak conference and he is couldn't make anything but MNJHL. I would also agree it is way too early to crown him Mr Hockey and Rookie of the year when and if he ever makes it to SCSU. The guys the Gophers are getting have played on the big stage Advanced 15, 16 and 17 even went further into those programs. Elite 1 ?? Where was he??
and east who was saying Pohl couldn't skate? Red Wing routinely played tougher competition when Pohl was around and I believe they were regulars at State. What has this kid done besides pad his own stats??
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:57 pm
by scoreboard33
HockeyMN1 wrote:How do you take Bjugstad over Rau??????????? Rau showed him up at state last year and he the focal point this year on the top line with Rogge and Erickson. Anyone who saw him totally take over the Blaine game at state last year would agree with me. Just because he is a little guy doesn't mean he isn't one of the best.
I saw the game and couldn't think you are more wrong.
Bjugstad is better than Rau, no question. He has been the focal point of a Blaine team that is a pretty good team, but Bjugstad took them to the next level. He is more than likely going to be a first rounder when the time comes.
You also may forget, but Rau played in front of a certain Mr. Leddy, kinda makes things easier.
I'm not insulting Rau either, he is very good, just not Bjugstad good.
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:30 pm
by HockeyMN1
scoreboard33 wrote:HockeyMN1 wrote:How do you take Bjugstad over Rau??????????? Rau showed him up at state last year and he the focal point this year on the top line with Rogge and Erickson. Anyone who saw him totally take over the Blaine game at state last year would agree with me. Just because he is a little guy doesn't mean he isn't one of the best.
I saw the game and couldn't think you are more wrong.
Bjugstad is better than Rau, no question. He has been the focal point of a Blaine team that is a pretty good team, but Bjugstad took them to the next level. He is more than likely going to be a first rounder when the time comes.
You also may forget, but Rau played in front of a certain Mr. Leddy, kinda makes things easier.
I'm not insulting Rau either, he is very good, just not Bjugstad good.
Bjugstad doesn't have the ability to take over a game like Rau does. He showed that against Blaine as he has for the last two years (he scored over 100 goals in his last year of Bantams). Also I'm not talking pro potential here either. Obviously Bjugstad is gonna be taken higher with a 6'5" frame compared to 5'8" or 5'9" for Rau, but as a high school player Rau is simply more lethal and can take over an entire game. As for playing in front of Leddy, sure that helps, but that was his only year ever playing with Leddy vs. playing with the 15 juniors on this winter's squad that he has been playing with his whole life, so I don't see much of a drop off happening due to Leddy's loss as he is extremely comfortable with this group.
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:33 pm
by ilivegreen60
where is Rau on the draft list?? where is bujgstad? first round? oh just checkin. Your and EP fan we get it. Bujgstad is better HANDS DOWN
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:53 pm
by HockeyMN1
ilivegreen60 wrote:where is Rau on the draft list?? where is bujgstad? first round? oh just checkin. Your and EP fan we get it. Bujgstad is better HANDS DOWN
as I said in my last post, I'm not talking about pro potential, just productivity at the high school level. Rau wins there even though bugjstad has a brighter future in the NCAA and pros because of his size.
Re: Signing as a Junior
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:56 am
by mngopherfan
blueblood wrote:If "most" players who sign (should read "commit") as juniors are risks, then most of the gopher recruits for next 2 seasons fall into that category, also, not just Benik.
I never said they weren't...
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:59 am
by ilivegreen60
HA. ok, mr.mnhockey we'll see who takes mr hockey this year.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:14 am
by youngblood08
won't be anyone from St Francis.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:20 am
by Doglover
brandy38 wrote:here's my opinion: the preview sucked entirely.
They should get karl(east) and dueling as rankers, by the way
Have to agree. I think they missed the boat entirely.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:45 pm
by Goldy Gopher
youngblood08 wrote:won't be anyone from St Francis.
Don't say that too loud, someone will get upset.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:27 pm
by Toews is god 19
Benik is brutal