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WBL vs. STA 12/28

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:13 pm
by formerlybackofnet
Do the Bears stand a chance?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:31 pm
by mnpuckster
As much as I'd like to see WBL win this game, I dont think they can match up with STA right now. Although they beat Centennial despite being outplayed last year in the Schwanns quarters, I dont see this happening against the Cadets. S

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:49 pm
by Goldfishdude
mnpuckster wrote:As much as I'd like to see WBL win this game, I dont think they can match up with STA right now. Although they beat Centennial despite being outplayed last year in the Schwanns quarters, I dont see this happening against the Cadets. S
I have said many times off the ice that WBL will struggle to win games unless it scores more than 4 goals versus these top teams. Last year's Centennial games was like 5-4 or 6-5 or something...

STA's Christian Isackson was injured during the Minnetonka game, and it is not reported yet the extent. It will be huge if he can't go vs WBL. STA was controlling Tonka until he left the game.

STA has 5 players with as many or more points than WBL's leading scorer, Brandon Wahlin.

Kurt Altrichter, STA's touted goalie, has had some struggles this year giving up 5 goals vs Tartan and 4 vs Tonka when approaching 30 shots, so the Bears will need to put some pressure on with quality shots.

Since I get ridiculed for opinions based on facts:

Bears 8 STA 0

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:48 pm
by BodyShots
Goldfishdude wrote:
mnpuckster wrote:As much as I'd like to see WBL win this game, I dont think they can match up with STA right now. Although they beat Centennial despite being outplayed last year in the Schwanns quarters, I dont see this happening against the Cadets. S
I have said many times off the ice that WBL will struggle to win games unless it scores more than 4 goals versus these top teams. Last year's Centennial games was like 5-4 or 6-5 or something...

STA's Christian Isackson was injured during the Minnetonka game, and it is not reported yet the extent. It will be huge if he can't go vs WBL. STA was controlling Tonka until he left the game.

STA has 5 players with as many or more points than WBL's leading scorer, Brandon Wahlin.

Kurt Altrichter, STA's touted goalie, has had some struggles this year giving up 5 goals vs Tartan and 4 vs Tonka when approaching 30 shots, so the Bears will need to put some pressure on with quality shots.

Since I get ridiculed for opinions based on facts:

Bears 8 STA 0
And there folks is another WBL Youth program goalie defection to another private.

GFD, I think you might have the teams listed backwards, or is it the scores? Although WBL has been successful in the past few years with the first round of the Schwan Cup.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:02 pm
by Goldfishdude
BodyShots wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote:
mnpuckster wrote:As much as I'd like to see WBL win this game, I dont think they can match up with STA right now. Although they beat Centennial despite being outplayed last year in the Schwanns quarters, I dont see this happening against the Cadets. S
I have said many times off the ice that WBL will struggle to win games unless it scores more than 4 goals versus these top teams. Last year's Centennial games was like 5-4 or 6-5 or something...

STA's Christian Isackson was injured during the Minnetonka game, and it is not reported yet the extent. It will be huge if he can't go vs WBL. STA was controlling Tonka until he left the game.

STA has 5 players with as many or more points than WBL's leading scorer, Brandon Wahlin.

Kurt Altrichter, STA's touted goalie, has had some struggles this year giving up 5 goals vs Tartan and 4 vs Tonka when approaching 30 shots, so the Bears will need to put some pressure on with quality shots.

Since I get ridiculed for opinions based on facts:

Bears 8 STA 0
And there folks is another WBL Youth program goalie defection to another private.

GFD, I think you might have the teams listed backwards, or is it the scores? Although WBL has been successful in the past few years with the first round of the Schwan Cup.
Oh no, Body... I have it right.. WBL 8 STA 0.... That's my prediction..

How's that for confidence in my squad??? Can't call me a Negative Nellie anymore... Go Bears!!!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:06 pm
by BodyShots
Goldfishdude wrote:
BodyShots wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote: I have said many times off the ice that WBL will struggle to win games unless it scores more than 4 goals versus these top teams. Last year's Centennial games was like 5-4 or 6-5 or something...

STA's Christian Isackson was injured during the Minnetonka game, and it is not reported yet the extent. It will be huge if he can't go vs WBL. STA was controlling Tonka until he left the game.

STA has 5 players with as many or more points than WBL's leading scorer, Brandon Wahlin.

Kurt Altrichter, STA's touted goalie, has had some struggles this year giving up 5 goals vs Tartan and 4 vs Tonka when approaching 30 shots, so the Bears will need to put some pressure on with quality shots.

Since I get ridiculed for opinions based on facts:

Bears 8 STA 0
And there folks is another WBL Youth program goalie defection to another private.

GFD, I think you might have the teams listed backwards, or is it the scores? Although WBL has been successful in the past few years with the first round of the Schwan Cup.
Oh no, Body... I have it right.. WBL 8 STA 0.... That's my prediction..
I want the old Goldfishdude back! :lol: Who is this impostor?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:12 pm
by Goldfishdude
BodyShots wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote:
BodyShots wrote: And there folks is another WBL Youth program goalie defection to another private.

GFD, I think you might have the teams listed backwards, or is it the scores? Although WBL has been successful in the past few years with the first round of the Schwan Cup.
Oh no, Body... I have it right.. WBL 8 STA 0.... That's my prediction..
I want the old Goldfishdude back! :lol: Who is this impostor?
The coaching staff has requested more positiveness from me - ERRR "questions" me as to how I show some negative commentary ... Of course, the best way for me to be positive and for me to shut up is to not ASK me to shut up, but to shut me up by winning the games they're supposed to - like versus Stillwater....

WINNING SOLVES EVERYTHING!!!!!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:21 pm
by Goldfishdude
Body......

I am just waiting for Barry McConnell to start offering his input. The dude has been in hiding...

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:24 pm
by wbhockey02
that pissed me off when kurt left wbl i used to be good buds with him, knew him since kindergarten, and now what can i say i thought he was straight but then he goes to an all boys school :? :P jk

but seriously, now the actual game i think since the bears have such good first round luck they will pull out the W :shock:

WBL-7 STA-5 en

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:38 pm
by mnpuckster
WBL coaching staff deserves criticism. Maybe they should be worried more with putting the best team possible on the ice rather than reading this message board.

I dont know how this group of players feel about his style, but knowing from previous years, Sager was not their favorite coach.

Aside from those types of issues, he's lost 11 straight to HM. I know he's not from around WBL, so maybe he doesnt realize the implications of that kind of streak..but that is comparable to OSU beating Michigan 11 straight or vice versa. A coaching move would have to be made twice.

The Bears have outplayed HM in the last 3 section finals games, all while losing. This is where Sager does well. He somehow gets his team to play above their talent level at the end of the season. Goaltending has killed WBL, and this year I dont see how he could possibly turn the team around to top HM in the sections. If he does, hes a genius, if he doesnt, Jackson should be looking for a new coach

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:24 pm
by starmvp
As much as I'd like to see the Bears take this one, I am going to have to say, STA 6-2

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:05 pm
by HShockeywatcher
Attended the WBL/Centennial game last year. Thought it was sloppy by both teams; high scoring affair that went the Bears' way. WBL and STA can both score. I think the goalies will play the difference in this game. I pick the team with the goalie from WBL...oh wait that's both of them.

Hopefully the cable company decides to give me FSN, not FS-wi that day...

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:09 am
by mnhcky65
Goldfishdude wrote:
mnpuckster wrote:As much as I'd like to see WBL win this game, I dont think they can match up with STA right now. Although they beat Centennial despite being outplayed last year in the Schwanns quarters, I dont see this happening against the Cadets. S
I have said many times off the ice that WBL will struggle to win games unless it scores more than 4 goals versus these top teams. Last year's Centennial games was like 5-4 or 6-5 or something...
STA's Christian Isackson was injured during the Minnetonka game, and it is not reported yet the extent. It will be huge if he can't go vs WBL. STA was controlling Tonka until he left the game.

STA has 5 players with as many or more points than WBL's leading scorer, Brandon Wahlin.

Kurt Altrichter, STA's touted goalie, has had some struggles this year giving up 5 goals vs Tartan and 4 vs Tonka when approaching 30 shots, so the Bears will need to put some pressure on with quality shots.

Since I get ridiculed for opinions based on facts:

Bears 8 STA 0
How many of those 6 goals were scored by WBL's first line, which has all graduated. Probably 3 or 4.

Re: WBL vs. STA 12/28

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:15 am
by besthockeyfan
formerlybackofnet wrote:Do the Bears stand a chance?
Who cares, the Bears are horrible this year and STA will toy with them!

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:53 am
by Goldfishdude
mnhcky65 wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote:
mnpuckster wrote:As much as I'd like to see WBL win this game, I dont think they can match up with STA right now. Although they beat Centennial despite being outplayed last year in the Schwanns quarters, I dont see this happening against the Cadets. S
I have said many times off the ice that WBL will struggle to win games unless it scores more than 4 goals versus these top teams. Last year's Centennial games was like 5-4 or 6-5 or something...
STA's Christian Isackson was injured during the Minnetonka game, and it is not reported yet the extent. It will be huge if he can't go vs WBL. STA was controlling Tonka until he left the game.

STA has 5 players with as many or more points than WBL's leading scorer, Brandon Wahlin.

Kurt Altrichter, STA's touted goalie, has had some struggles this year giving up 5 goals vs Tartan and 4 vs Tonka when approaching 30 shots, so the Bears will need to put some pressure on with quality shots.

Since I get ridiculed for opinions based on facts:

Bears 8 STA 0
How many of those 6 goals were scored by WBL's first line, which has all graduated. Probably 3 or 4.[/quote]

I don't understand your point, Mnhock!!! This is a new team!!!! Coming off a huge win vs Stillwater!!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:01 am
by Pioneerprideguy
Times are tough when you are referring to a win over Stillwater as "Huge".

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:05 am
by BodyShots
Pioneerprideguy wrote:Times are tough when you are referring to a win over Stillwater as "Huge".
Give GFD some leeway. He's trying to be positive. :P

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:17 am
by PoniesDad45
How is Wahlin doing this year on the team? I know his grandpa and his uncle (I haven't seen them since the season started). I've heard good things about him over the years.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:23 pm
by mnpuckster
Wahlin is one of the lone bright spot for the bears.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:08 pm
by Goldfishdude
PoniesDad45 wrote:How is Wahlin doing this year on the team? I know his grandpa and his uncle (I haven't seen them since the season started). I've heard good things about him over the years.
There may not be a bigger fan of Brandon, other than his family, than I am.. Brandon knows it.. His dad knows it.

Therefore, I am not afraid to tell Brandon what he needs to work on (which I don't have to)... or his effort... or the fact that I am proud of how he has matured on the ice. I also feel, because of my respect for his father, that if I have something to say, I will say it, and Jerry and I will have discussions from time to time.

As a result, I also may be harder on him as an outsider, because it's the quality kids that have talent that you need to kick in the rear sometimes, when you think the ego is getting out of control or if he may be "resting on his laurels", to push them harder to maximize their efforts and successes.. I do that out of coach instincts.

The relationship between he and Max Birkinbine is as good as you can get on ice... Wolter's skills feed off and compliment these guys perfectly. THAT'S why I am hard on these guys, because I know what they are capable of nightly.

If anything, I think Brandon has a tendency to be a little too unselfish, and that is something I have had conversations with his father on, that he needs to take more shots on 2 on 1s, with the intent of Birki and Wolter looking for rebounds.

He has great imagination, can snipe with the best of them from the circles in... has great hands.... has exceptional feet and balance... and good speed with great elusiveness... And.... is probably more dangerous as a penalty killer than 5 on 5...

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:15 pm
by Goldfishdude
BodyShots wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:Times are tough when you are referring to a win over Stillwater as "Huge".
Give GFD some leeway. He's trying to be positive. :P
Yeah... Pioneerprideguy!!! Take it easy on me!!! Can't we all just be winners by participation?? :P

If you happen to catch all my threads involving HM, I don't rip them!!! I love HM!!! I love WBL.. I love everyone!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:39 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
I think it's a little early for the eggnogg, but I like your style! Happy Holidays to ya, GFD.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:07 pm
by Goldfishdude
Pioneerprideguy wrote:I think it's a little early for the eggnogg, but I like your style! Happy Holidays to ya, GFD.
Pioneerprideguy, thank you for the well wishes, and best of holidays to you as well.... remember the faith that is taught at your school during this time... It's not about the presents.... It's about the manger..... or presents...

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:10 pm
by PoniesDad45
Goldfishdude wrote:
PoniesDad45 wrote:How is Wahlin doing this year on the team? I know his grandpa and his uncle (I haven't seen them since the season started). I've heard good things about him over the years.
There may not be a bigger fan of Brandon, other than his family, than I am.. Brandon knows it.. His dad knows it.

Therefore, I am not afraid to tell Brandon what he needs to work on (which I don't have to)... or his effort... or the fact that I am proud of how he has matured on the ice. I also feel, because of my respect for his father, that if I have something to say, I will say it, and Jerry and I will have discussions from time to time.

As a result, I also may be harder on him as an outsider, because it's the quality kids that have talent that you need to kick in the rear sometimes, when you think the ego is getting out of control or if he may be "resting on his laurels", to push them harder to maximize their efforts and successes.. I do that out of coach instincts.

The relationship between he and Max Birkinbine is as good as you can get on ice... Wolter's skills feed off and compliment these guys perfectly. THAT'S why I am hard on these guys, because I know what they are capable of nightly.

If anything, I think Brandon has a tendency to be a little too unselfish, and that is something I have had conversations with his father on, that he needs to take more shots on 2 on 1s, with the intent of Birki and Wolter looking for rebounds.

He has great imagination, can snipe with the best of them from the circles in... has great hands.... has exceptional feet and balance... and good speed with great elusiveness... And.... is probably more dangerous as a penalty killer than 5 on 5...
Sounds like he's doing great, glad to hear it. I worked with his grandpa for a short time before he retired and I know his uncle from Woodbury. Very nice family.

Also sounds like they have a great friend in you so good job.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:19 pm
by Hankya
STA comes with too much for WBL. #21 is gonna start paying the price for playing cheep. Yep, I said it, cheeeeeeeep. What is with all the cheep shots and stick action? Play the game like it should be played. STA 4, WBL 2