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Updated: January 13, 2010

NOTE: I cannot make opinions on the Dist 11 – 16. I am sure there are some great PeeWee hockey teams and players from those districts but I frankly don’t know enough to comment on them.

District 1 – the two teams to report on out of D1 is Highland and MPLS Park Orange. Both teams played in the Anoka Invite with Park beating Anoka for the Consolation Champ and Highland losing to Hastings in the 3rd place game. With District 1 being what it is, it is hard to gauge the overall competitiveness but I am probably not in the minority opinion that even though Park and Highland has some talent their depth will keep them out of the top 20. But, either of these two teams could surprise #5 thru #20 if they aren’t careful.

District 2 – With a 10 – 0 record Roseville is the cream of the crop. A recent 4 to 1 loss to Edina Green is probably a close enough score that they may be able to surprise Edina later on this year but not close enough to be considered #1b.

Stillwater Black is 7-1-1 in district 2 play but lost to unranked OMG Orange in the championship of the Superior tournament. Stillwater Red would be ranked 3rd out of this District but with a recent loss to Tartan doesn’t help their chances of being considered a team that will be heard from in March.

District 3 – What a cluster of teams from Wayzata and OMG. The two upper Wayzata B1 teams from Wayzata are playing well and winning their fair share of games. Wayzata Blue recently lost to OMG Gold 4 to 1 while the inconsistent Wayzata Gold beat OMG Gold 5rip in Edina tourney and beat them again 2to1 in district play. The lower Wayzata B1 team has the ability to beat any team in D3 but are lacking the consistency which will keep them knocking on the door of the top 20.

OMG has three balanced B1 teams. Last weekend, the Orange won the Superior tournament and Crimson won the Anoka tournament while Gold beat the previously undefeated Wayzata Blue 4 to 1 after losing for the second time to Wayzata Gold earlier that week. Flip a coin on the Crimson and Gold with Orange being able to give these two teams a challenge but just missing a little bit to knock either of these two teams off consistently.

Wayzata Blue and Gold, OMG Crimson and Gold are battling for the top position and some of the states best B1 teams will be left out of regions - I think only 2 come out of D3.

OMG Orange, Orono and Wayzata Navy will need an upset to make it out of regions.

Armstrong/Cooper and Hopkins are in the distance.

District 4 – nobody out of this District is making any noise to warrant top 20 although New Prague is 10 – 0 in district play they have lost to some non-top20 metro teams by large margins.

District 5 – Crow River Orange, STMA and Sartell are very even. Toss up as to who is going to win D5 but my prediction is STMA will come out ahead but they have landed outside this editions Top 20. Unfortunately I don’t see any of these team playing in late March.

District 6 – Edina Green is the best in the state even though their untarnished season took a hit from a loss to their in-association rival Edina White.

Tonka Black, Shakopee, Burnsville and EP Black are battling for 3rd with Waconia and CC capable of being the spoiler for the race for 3rd in D6. Can’t even guess who will come in 3rd as it is too close to call but probably Tonka Black or EP Black.

Overall, District 6 is very solid and will be heard from in February and March.

District 8 – Lakeville North has some nice wins but so inconsistent. Eagan Blue is the same way with some impressive wins but also some head scratching losses. Woodbury Blue Couple nice wins over Eagan Blue. Woodbury Blue is the same way – nice wins coupled with some tough losses. Nobody seems to want to take control over District 8 and therefore nobody will land in top 10.

Honorable mentions to Farmington Black, Rosemount Gold, Rochester(s), Eagan Green and Woodbury White.

District 10 - Sauk Rapids is at the top with an undefeated season thus far and nice 4 to 3 win over Wayzata Blue. This association does not field an A team and I think they did a great job of assessing their talent and placing them in the category that they could have a fun season.

Centennial is having a nice season but is fresh off of a 5 game losing streak. Champlin Park and Elk River are winning their fair share of games too. These three teams are racing for 2nd but won’t catch Sauk Rapids and St. Cloud Black fighting for top 4 consideration.

To summarize – the Metro Top 20 are:

1. Edina Green
2. Edina White (move up after beating Green)
3. (tie) Roseville
Sauk Rapids
5 (tie) OMG Crimson
Wayzata Blue
OMG Gold
Wayzata Gold
9. Minnetonka Blk
10. EP Black
11. Woodbury Blue
12. Centennial
13. Elk River
14. Shakopee
15. Lakeville North
16. Champlin Park
17. Eagan Blue
18. OMG Orange
19. Burnsville
20. Stillwater Blk

Just wondering if you have checked the Dist. 8 website? Farmington Black is 10-1-2 in league play and on a 7 game winning stretch, including Eagan Blue, Lakeville North, Woodbury White, and Rochester. They tied Shakopee in a scrimmage and beat EP black in their own tournament last month.

southhockey wrote:Just wondering if you have checked the Dist. 8 website? Farmington Black is 10-1-2 in league play and on a 7 game winning stretch, including Eagan Blue, Lakeville North, Woodbury White, and Rochester. They tied Shakopee in a scrimmage and beat EP black in their own tournament last month.

No disrespect intended here but a couple wins over Cottage Grove in January along with a win over Woodbury White should be expected. A 6 to 1 loss to Wayzata Blue is tough but the win over Eagan Blue is a nice, just not enough to push out anyone in the top 20. Sorry.

Didn't think the 2 Cottage Grove wins were relevant...that's why I didn't mention them!! However, check your facts out on the Lville N site...who have they beaten to rank them 15?? Who has Eagan Blue beaten to rank them top 20? Farmington has beaten both teams 2x in league play. As for the Wayzata loss, the worst loss this team has had. However, lost to them the day before 2-1. 11-12 year olds will lose and will lose big sometimes! Is this team up with the BIG powerhouse teams...NO, but facts are facts and wins are wins!

A statistical ranking of B1 teams. Use the information wisely.

Relax southy, you don't need to chase shootreyes away and not get his timeconsuming insight in the future.

Your farmington team could probably fit nicely into the bottom half of the top 20 along with several others who aren't named.

pioneer wrote:A statistical ranking of B1 teams. Use the information wisely.

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1	Edina B1 Green                     	39.8
2	Edina B1 White                     	38.66
3	Sauk Rapids B1                     	36.99
4	Roseville B1                       	36.91
5	Wayzata B1 Gold                    	36.37
6	Osseo Maple Grove B1 Gold          	36.27
7	Wayzata B1 Blue                    	36.26
8	Woodbury B1 Blue                   	36.1
9	Shakopee B1                        	35.92
10	Osseo Maple Grove B1 Crimson       	35.87
11	Minnetonka B1 Black                	35.5
12	Eagan B1 Blue                      	35.42
13	Stillwater B1 Red                  	34.84
14	Elk River B1                       	34.74
15	Stillwater B1 Black                	34.71
16	Rosemount B1 Blue                  	34.59
17	Burnsville B1                      	34.57
18	Farmington B1 Black                	34.49
19	Eden Prairie B1 Black              	34.4
20	Blaine B1                          	34.35
21	Osseo Maple Grove B1 Orange        	34.25
22	Centennial B1                      	34.22
23	Lakeville North B1                 	34.2
24	Eden Prairie B1 Red                	34.17
25	St. Cloud B1 Black                 	34
26	Woodbury B1 White                  	33.99
27	Waconia B1                         	33.94
28	Minnetonka B1 Blue                 	33.89
29	Moorhead B1                        	33.87
30	Champlin Park B1                   	33.79
31	Chaska B1                          	33.79
32	Rochester B1 Black                 	33.72
33	Minneapolis Park B1                	33.71
34	St. Cloud B1 Red                   	33.52
35	White Bear Lake B1 Black           	33.43
36	Rosemount B1 Gold                  	33.33
37	Jefferson B1                       	33.29
38	Wayzata B1 Navy                    	33.28
39	Moundsview B1                      	32.98
40	Tartan B1                          	32.9
41	Eagan B1 Green                     	32.9
42	Anoka B1                           	32.69
43	Highland Central B1                	32.68
44	Rochester B1 White                 	32.65
45	Rochester B1 Red                   	32.6
46	Hastings B1                        	32.55
47	Eastview B1                        	32.54
48	Farmington B1 Orange               	32.5
49	White Bear Lake B1 Orange          	32.33
50	New Richmond B1                    	32.24
51	Lakeville South B1                 	32.01
52	Orono B1                           	31.99
53	Prior Lake B1                      	31.98
54	Forest Lake B1                     	31.97
55	Hudson B1                          	31.86
56	Inver Grove Heights B1             	31.78
57	South St. Paul B1                  	31.74
58	Winona B1                          	31.45
59	Hopkins B1                         	31.35
60	Chisago Lakes B1                   	31.29
61	Andover B1                         	31.28
62	Cottage Grove B1                   	31.26
63	La Crescent B1                     	31.1
64	Sibley Area B1                     	30.78
65	Rogers B1                          	30.52
66	New Prague B1                      	30.48
67	Mahtomedi B1                       	30.26
68	Spring Lake Park B1                	29.81
69	Coon Rapids B1                     	29.6
70	Mora B1                            	29.46
71	Somerset B1                        	29.33
72	Alexandria B1                      	29.03
73	Armstrong B1                       	28.95
74	Princeton B1                       	28.87
75	North St. Paul B1                  	28.59
76	Grand Rapids B1                    	27.96
77	Cambridge Isanti North Branch B1   	27.66
78	Pine City B1                       	27.43
79	Morris Benson B1                   	26.27

Did you just sprinkle some outstate teams in there like Moorhead and Morris Benson from D15 and Grand Rapids from D12? What about EGF American Federal, Red Lake Falls, or even EGF American Legion. Not top 20 but higher then you cut off. EGF AFB has a win and a tie over Moorhead Black.

southhockey wrote:Didn't think the 2 Cottage Grove wins were relevant...that's why I didn't mention them!! However, check your facts out on the Lville N site...who have they beaten to rank them 15?? Who has Eagan Blue beaten to rank them top 20? Farmington has beaten both teams 2x in league play. As for the Wayzata loss, the worst loss this team has had. However, lost to them the day before 2-1. 11-12 year olds will lose and will lose big sometimes! Is this team up with the BIG powerhouse teams...NO, but facts are facts and wins are wins!

No doubt you are accurate - Farm Blk is 2-2 against Eagan Blue. I ranked Eagan Blue higher because they came in 2nd in the Mankato, EP and Anoka tournaments. These are better results than Farm Blk.

I think your team (I am assuming it is your son's team due to your opinion and facts) could very well be a top 20 team but at this point I didn't think so. I could be 100% wrong but it is just one persons opinion as to who are in the top 20 based upon wins, losses and talent.

For the record, since my opinion seems to be really important, I will say that Farmington Black is #21.

Did you just sprinkle some outstate teams in there like Moorhead and Morris Benson from D15 and Grand Rapids from D12? What about EGF American Federal, Red Lake Falls, or even EGF American Legion. Not top 20 but higher then you cut off. EGF AFB has a win and a tie over Moorhead Black.

Relax AF... I "categorize" the EGF B teams as B2. Neither here nor there, but rest assured they would fall in this group. I've got Federal at 31.63 and Legion at 28.06. Somewhat difficult to tell from the stats, but should I assume that Federal is a 'B1' and Legion a 'B2' (i.e., unbalanced 'B' teams?).[/quote]

pioneer wrote:

Did you just sprinkle some outstate teams in there like Moorhead and Morris Benson from D15 and Grand Rapids from D12? What about EGF American Federal, Red Lake Falls, or even EGF American Legion. Not top 20 but higher then you cut off. EGF AFB has a win and a tie over Moorhead Black.

Relax AF... I "categorize" the EGF B teams as B2. Neither here nor there, but rest assured they would fall in this group. I've got Federal at 31.63 and Legion at 28.06. Somewhat difficult to tell from the stats, but should I assume that Federal is a 'B1' and Legion a 'B2' (i.e., unbalanced 'B' teams?).

Roger that, unbalanced teams, American Federal is the B1 and American Legion is the B2, in district they play the same competition non-district games, American Federal plays tougher competition.

I think Edina should be embarrased by having both of their B teams at the top of the "B" rankings. Both of the "B" teams would be close to a top 10 "A" team. Why wouldn't they want to challenge the kids to play "A" hockey?

I guess I already know why...It's about the trophys - not about the competition.

The same goes for Sauk Rapids not having an "A" team at the Peewee and Bantam levels.

IMO I wouldn't think it would be much fun knowing your going to win before the game starts.

d10scout wrote:I think Edina should be embarrased by having both of their B teams at the top of the "B" rankings. Both of the "B" teams would be close to a top 10 "A" team. Why wouldn't they want to challenge the kids to play "A" hockey?

I guess I already know why...It's about the trophys - not about the competition.

The same goes for Sauk Rapids not having an "A" team at the Peewee and Bantam levels.

IMO I wouldn't think it would be much fun knowing your going to win before the game starts.

What they should have done was field an A2 team. That team would be ranked around #25-30, and then formed two even B1s which would have had them around the #5-10 range (oh!, the shame!). IMO would have pushed those B1s to elevate their game more while the A2 team would still be fairly respectable - allowing them to claim the state title with their A1 team. I know the A1/A2 thing was tried in squirts last year, but THIS is the group they needed to try it with.

Sauk Rapids has 23 skaters at the bantam level. Period. The decision to go B1 and B2 at this level had nothing to do with trophies.

Pioneer I like your rankings, keep em coming.