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PageStat has Eagan at #22
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:29 am
by schwang17
2 spots below Lakeville South.
Wonder what HSHW, Karl and crew have to say about that.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:07 am
by Goldfishdude
Well.... how does Pagestat feel that Goldfishdude has never heard of them, nor will Goldfishdude ever visit their site???
They're wrong. Our boys are right.
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/kgrr ... CSI-Miami-
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/flwp ... CSI-Miami-
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:47 am
by karl(east)
@ Goldy's clips.
What do I have to say about it? Not a whole lot. Though I hold PS2 in higher regard than many, it's a different ranking system with a different opinion on how to do things. If I always agreed with it, I wouldn't waste my time doing rankings.
I appreciate what Lee does with PS2, and I enjoy looking at the rankings. But as his own disclaimer states, you wouldn't get rich in Vegas using it. It has its value, but it's far from gospel. (Not trying to imply that mine are, either. Just different perspectives, and with mine, you're going to get a lengthy argument over why I do what I do.)
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:06 am
by goldy313
I like Lee's rankings becaus he ranks all teams and if my team isn't a top 10-15 team (they haven't been in years) I can still see where they stack up. Personally I think he overvalues northern teams while undervaluing Lake teams but other than last season when Eden Prairie broke through he's been right, the Lake hasn't faired very well against other top teams.
Besides most season, including this one, you're splitting hairs in teams 10-30 anyhow.
Re: PageStat has Eagan at #22
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:39 am
by HShockeywatcher
schwang17 wrote:2 spots below Lakeville South.
Wonder what HSHW, Karl and crew have to say about that.
1. They are a defensive team so they don't score many goals.
2. Is last season still a part of the equation?
3. It's a computer system. Additionally, it's not ranking the teams per se, it's ranking the team's results with their schedules
4. Breck is at #6 despite only playing a couple good teams.
Like Karl said, it's one person's interpretation of how to weigh what teams do.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:24 pm
by schwang17
I was just trying to needle you guys and the Eagan faithful a little bit here.
Personally, I found it rather shocking they were that low.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:19 pm
by east hockey
schwang17 wrote:I was just trying to needle you guys and the Eagan faithful a little bit here.
Personally, I found it rather shocking they were that low.
I'm not. Their GF/GA differential is +26. That loss to Eden Prairie dropped their goal differential average from 2.46/game to 1.86. Add that to their strength of schedule (currently ranked 25th) and you can see why PageStat has them ranked where they are. They have a nice 11-2-1 record but it hasn't been done against an overwhelming schedule. They've only played two games against teams rated higher than them in the ratings.
Lee
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:45 pm
by HShockeywatcher
east hockey wrote:
They've only played two games against teams rated higher than them in the ratings.
Lee
Win Jefferson #5
Win Lakeville South #20
Tie Burnsville #13
east hockey wrote:
I'm not. Their GF/GA differential is +26. That loss to Eden Prairie dropped their goal differential average from 2.46/game to 1.86. Add that to their strength of schedule (currently ranked 25th) and you can see why PageStat has them ranked where they are. They have a nice 11-2-1 record but it hasn't been done against an overwhelming schedule.
Lee
This illustrates the point, in my opinion, of how winning the games is more important than blowing out teams.
Eagan has a better record against common opponents than Jefferson, but Jefferson's goal differential is much better. So we pick the team that wins big when they win, but doesn't win as much and has a head to head loss.
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:58 am
by schwang17
east hockey wrote:schwang17 wrote:I was just trying to needle you guys and the Eagan faithful a little bit here.
Personally, I found it rather shocking they were that low.
I'm not. Their GF/GA differential is +26. That loss to Eden Prairie dropped their goal differential average from 2.46/game to 1.86. Add that to their strength of schedule (currently ranked 25th) and you can see why PageStat has them ranked where they are. They have a nice 11-2-1 record but it hasn't been done against an overwhelming schedule. They've only played two games against teams rated higher than them in the ratings.
Lee
I don't think any legitimate poll could have them any lower than 15 or so. Believe me, it pains me to say that.