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18-0?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:55 pm
by ryno44
Did virginia really beat silverbay 18-0? after 10 goals its time to stop shooting the puck!!! their players must have really needed to rack up some points! not a thread bashing virginia but minnetonka didn't put up that many goals when they could have.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:58 pm
by dabears344
I actually saw 19-0, I agree, the coach should send d to play forward and vice versa along with 6 pass rules and stuff like that so they can keep playing hard but not make the score any worse

Re: 18-0?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:12 pm
by mnhockeynemn
ryno44 wrote:Did virginia really beat silverbay 18-0? after 10 goals its time to stop shooting the puck!!! their players must have really needed to rack up some points! not a thread bashing virginia but minnetonka didn't put up that many goals when they could have.
Ryno44, from all over your past posts I know your from your Hibbing, I don't think it would be any better stopping a game right in the middle of it then finishing a game 18-0? Thats a little more embarrassing saying ok boys its the middle of the 2nd period its 10-0, you loose time to go home now. :(

Who Cares

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:36 pm
by northwoods oldtimer
A team should never pull back the attack. Rest the 1 line yes but never stop playing hard and going to net hard that is modern day 'touchy feely' BS. 18 - 0 is 18 - 0 losers whine about games like this. Way to bury them Virginia!!

Re: Who Cares

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:03 am
by hockeyfan893
[quote="northwoods oldtimer"]A team should never pull back the attack. Rest the 1 line yes but never stop playing hard and going to net hard that is modern day 'touchy feely' BS. 18 - 0 is 18 - 0 losers whine about games like this. Way to bury them Virginia!![/quote]

Agreed with the general message here. Never should a team backdown from playing good hockey to protect the emotional feelings of the opposing players / coaches / supporters, etc.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:28 am
by Fire and Ice
The age old argument.

The team putting pucks away can only respect their opponent by continuing to play the game. This idea that flipping D with F and play the fourth line more is ridiculous. The D want to score more and so does the 4th line.

My suggestion(s) to all teams that have this problem.

1. Get better

2. Don't schedule the game and yes you can get out of a game as long as the AD's agree to it

3. Get better

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:25 am
by Daulton911
This is so common in HS Hockey. I see the long thread about Joey Benick and the skeptics talking about his scoring title, however games such as thisone and Hill Murray also has its share of cake-walk games. I saw the box score of the game they had saturday evening. they gave up 3 shots and won 9 - 0. It all is what it is.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:39 am
by old goalie85
I remember Hill beating St. Paul Central 21 to 0 [ back when they were in the city conference. They won state that year. [1983 I think] Gives the central guys something to tell people about.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:57 am
by starmvp
15-0 and then you just have to stop.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:11 am
by mentor
I was at the game. SilverBay never quit. They just didn't have the talent that Virginia has.Virginia played everyone on the roster. Sad to watch but Virginia played as they should,you can't tell your players to to quit executing in the middle of a game.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:13 am
by starmvp
mentor wrote:I was at the game. SilverBay never quit. They just didn't have the talent that Virginia has.Virginia played everyone on the roster. Sad to watch but Virginia played as they should,you can't tell your players to to quit executing in the middle of a game.
Move it around, practice different systems, play your 3rd and 4th liners every other shift...

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:11 am
by pioneers
My question would be. Which is worse, keep playing and score more goals or play keep away with the puck? Seems to me it would be worse to play keep away.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:18 am
by starmvp
pioneers wrote:My question would be. Which is worse, keep playing and score more goals or play keep away with the puck? Seems to me it would be worse to play keep away.
If you play your players that don't get much ice time and tell them to move it around, they will not score as many goals as the top lines would.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:28 am
by Stealth
We all know about a third period running time trigger point. Is there a second period goal differential to trigger running time?

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:30 am
by starmvp
Stealth wrote:We all know about a third period running time trigger point. Is there a second period goal differential to trigger running time?
Nope

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:57 pm
by HShockeywatcher
pioneers wrote:My question would be. Which is worse, keep playing and score more goals or play keep away with the puck? Seems to me it would be worse to play keep away.
You are completely right. From the losing perspective, it is much better to continue to get whooped on by the top line than a) have them play keep away or b) get whooped on by the bottom lines.
starmvp wrote: If you play your players that don't get much ice time and tell them to move it around, they will not score as many goals as the top lines would.
In my opinion, play them or don't bring them and give them some money back. They all pay the same play and all put in just as much time. To tell someone "you're good so you don't get to play" is just bunk. Maybe put a 4th liner on your 1st line and say "Sam is the only one of you three that can score" or something to that effect.

I would also add to this that they have 3 games remaining before sections.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:08 pm
by mnmayonnaise
I don't like the 6 goal diff running time, not even in youth.

One of my sons was on a team that got beat pretty bad all the time. The boys kept a good attitude and worked hard. It seemed a shame to drive an hour and half for 36 minutes of hockey and then have the last 12 be run time.

The kids wanted to play.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:09 pm
by fivehole628
old goalie85 wrote:I remember Hill beating St. Paul Central 21 to 0 [ back when they were in the city conference. They won state that year. [1983 I think] Gives the central guys something to tell people about.
How bout Moorhead over Monticello 27-0...

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:15 pm
by starmvp
fivehole628 wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:I remember Hill beating St. Paul Central 21 to 0 [ back when they were in the city conference. They won state that year. [1983 I think] Gives the central guys something to tell people about.
How bout Moorhead over Monticello 27-0...
27-0? When was this?

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:10 pm
by gatzke
starmvp wrote:
fivehole628 wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:I remember Hill beating St. Paul Central 21 to 0 [ back when they were in the city conference. They won state that year. [1983 I think] Gives the central guys something to tell people about.
How bout Moorhead over Monticello 27-0...
27-0? When was this?
2004 I believe, same year Warroad embarrassed the Rams 15-1

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:22 pm
by wblhockeyfan8
From my personal experience, getting blown out isn't a big deal. As long a both teams stay classy and work hard no one has much to complain about.

It's only when you get crushed (and I've had this happen to me) and the other team starts gloating or trash talking that things get out of hand.

The best teams I've ever played in any sport have been those that come out, work hard, get the win and show the other team respect. A team that does the opposite will be know throughout any league as a team full of jerks, and will ruin the reputation of the whole organization.

As for the rest of the topic, I'd agree with playing for bottom lines and putting a pass rule on the ice. Switch up the positions and get everybody some solid ice time. In the end a W is a W, you don't need to "secure the win" by having your top line blast 15 goals in two periods.

If you can win 20-0 with your 3rd and 4th line, more power to you. :D

Re: Who Cares

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:05 pm
by ryno44
hockeyfan893 wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:A team should never pull back the attack. Rest the 1 line yes but never stop playing hard and going to net hard that is modern day 'touchy feely' BS. 18 - 0 is 18 - 0 losers whine about games like this. Way to bury them Virginia!!
Agreed with the general message here. Never should a team backdown from playing good hockey to protect the emotional feelings of the opposing players / coaches / supporters, etc.
They don't have to back down, but they can start shooting at the goalie.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:20 pm
by defense
wblhockeyfan8 wrote:From my personal experience, getting blown out isn't a big deal. As long a both teams stay classy and work hard no one has much to complain about.

It's only when you get crushed (and I've had this happen to me) and the other team starts gloating or trash talking that things get out of hand.

The best teams I've ever played in any sport have been those that come out, work hard, get the win and show the other team respect. A team that does the opposite will be know throughout any league as a team full of jerks, and will ruin the reputation of the whole organization.

As for the rest of the topic, I'd agree with playing for bottom lines and putting a pass rule on the ice. Switch up the positions and get everybody some solid ice time. In the end a W is a W, you don't need to "secure the win" by having your top line blast 15 goals in two periods.

If you can win 20-0 with your 3rd and 4th line, more power to you. :D
I applaud common sense...Thank You.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:37 pm
by wblhockeyfan8
defense wrote:
wblhockeyfan8 wrote:From my personal experience, getting blown out isn't a big deal. As long a both teams stay classy and work hard no one has much to complain about.

It's only when you get crushed (and I've had this happen to me) and the other team starts gloating or trash talking that things get out of hand.

The best teams I've ever played in any sport have been those that come out, work hard, get the win and show the other team respect. A team that does the opposite will be know throughout any league as a team full of jerks, and will ruin the reputation of the whole organization.

As for the rest of the topic, I'd agree with playing for bottom lines and putting a pass rule on the ice. Switch up the positions and get everybody some solid ice time. In the end a W is a W, you don't need to "secure the win" by having your top line blast 15 goals in two periods.

If you can win 20-0 with your 3rd and 4th line, more power to you. :D
I applaud common sense...Thank You.
The world would be a better place if everyone used it!

Sigh... :lol: