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Ineligable Player

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:08 pm
by hockeyguy09
I heard that orono discovered that one of their players had been ineligable to play the entire season. What happens to the team? Does the school get fined? Can the team finish the season?

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:53 pm
by hockeydad
If that is true...
School must forfeit all wins (and ties) in which the player played....
AD and/or coach gets censured. I don't think the league has the authority to fine a school.
School can finish out season, but without ineligible player.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:05 am
by Goldfishdude
hockeydad wrote:If that is true...
School must forfeit all wins (and ties) in which the player played....
AD and/or coach gets censured. I don't think the league has the authority to fine a school.
School can finish out season, but without ineligible player.
When did Clem Haskins start coaching hockey??

Re: Ineligable Player

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:18 am
by HShockeywatcher
hockeyguy09 wrote:I heard that orono discovered that one of their players had been ineligable to play the entire season. What happens to the team? Does the school get fined? Can the team finish the season?
Two football seasons ago (08-09) Mahtomedi started the season 5-0, but their back up kicker was ineligible so they technically lost all those games 0-1. They won out, and swept the section they should've had the #1 seed in but instead was #5 I believe.

If this is true, they will have lost every game they played, but I'm guessing they could still get a respectable seed as coaches vote. That is, if the coaches some how didn't know.

Re: Ineligable Player

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:39 am
by hockeydad
HShockeywatcher wrote:
hockeyguy09 wrote:I heard that orono discovered that one of their players had been ineligable to play the entire season. What happens to the team? Does the school get fined? Can the team finish the season?
Two football seasons ago (08-09) Mahtomedi started the season 5-0, but their back up kicker was ineligible so they technically lost all those games 0-1. They won out, and swept the section they should've had the #1 seed in but instead was #5 I believe.

If this is true, they will have lost every game they played, but I'm guessing they could still get a respectable seed as coaches vote. That is, if the coaches some how didn't know.
The difference is, in football they seed using a formula based on wins and losses and strength of competition. In hockey, they seed based on coaches' opinions on where the teams rank.

Re: Ineligable Player

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:42 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
hockeydad wrote:The difference is, in football they seed using a formula based on wins and losses and strength of competition. In hockey, they seed based on coaches' opinions on where the teams rank.
Take it easy on him. He wouldn't know that, he's just a beginner. Remember?

:idea:

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:19 pm
by hockeyplaya17
[quote="hockeydad"]If that is true...
School must forfeit all wins (and ties) in which the player played....
AD and/or coach gets censured. I don't think the league has the authority to fine a school.
School can finish out season, but without ineligible player.[/quote]

Wrong. The player sits out rest of season, no penalty to team or coaches. If the player played in another game, after the high school league found out of his ineligibility, the team would have to forfeit all wins.

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:41 pm
by espnmobile8
hockeyplaya17 wrote:Wrong. The player sits out rest of season, no penalty to team or coaches. If the player played in another game, after the high school league found out of his ineligibility, the team would have to forfeit all wins.
Wrong. They banish the player for seven years from the tribe and he loses all of his ranks and titles. It's a little severe but it's a necessity.

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:43 pm
by hockeydad
espnmobile8 wrote:
hockeyplaya17 wrote:Wrong. The player sits out rest of season, no penalty to team or coaches. If the player played in another game, after the high school league found out of his ineligibility, the team would have to forfeit all wins.
Wrong. They banish the player for seven years from the tribe and he loses all of his ranks and titles. It's a little severe but it's a necessity.
Thanks, espn... I forgot about those penalties. :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:57 pm
by Just_Another_Fan
What team has an ineligible player? I am confused.

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:00 pm
by ubugme
Just_Another_Fan wrote:What team has an ineligible player? I am confused.
The one thats about to be voted off the island.

It bugs me when people can't keep up...

Re: Ineligable Player

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:25 pm
by HShockeywatcher
EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:
hockeydad wrote:The difference is, in football they seed using a formula based on wins and losses and strength of competition. In hockey, they seed based on coaches' opinions on where the teams rank.
Take it easy on him. He wouldn't know that, he's just a beginner. Remember?

:idea:
Did neither of you read my post before responding to it? I pointed that out in my post. Then hockeydad repeated what I said as if pointing it out to me.

The other difference is that in the Zephyrs case, it was a player that didn't even see the field. Here, regardless of the line, it will affect them in some way.

Is this true? If it is, they should become the highest seeded 0 win team ever.

Re: Ineligable Player

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:24 pm
by hockeydad
HShockeywatcher wrote:
EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:
hockeydad wrote:The difference is, in football they seed using a formula based on wins and losses and strength of competition. In hockey, they seed based on coaches' opinions on where the teams rank.
Take it easy on him. He wouldn't know that, he's just a beginner. Remember?

:idea:
Did neither of you read my post before responding to it? I pointed that out in my post. Then hockeydad repeated what I said as if pointing it out to me.

The other difference is that in the Zephyrs case, it was a player that didn't even see the field. Here, regardless of the line, it will affect them in some way.

Is this true? If it is, they should become the highest seeded 0 win team ever.
Forgive me, I misread what you posted the first time.

Re: Ineligable Player

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:30 pm
by HShockeywatcher
hockeydad wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
EREmpireStrikesBack wrote: Take it easy on him. He wouldn't know that, he's just a beginner. Remember?

:idea:
Did neither of you read my post before responding to it? I pointed that out in my post. Then hockeydad repeated what I said as if pointing it out to me.

The other difference is that in the Zephyrs case, it was a player that didn't even see the field. Here, regardless of the line, it will affect them in some way.

Is this true? If it is, they should become the highest seeded 0 win team ever.
Forgive me, I misread what you posted the first time.
Forgiven :mrgreen: