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If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:45 pm
by LASERBLUE135
There is no WI forum, but I thought I would share this here.

A private school :x , University School out of Milwaukee beat the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams (all with only 1 loss on the season) in consecutive games to take the title! In the final they faced the team ranked #1 most of the year. They were OUTSHOT 45-17 but had the goalie that was able to ride them to the title 5-3 w/en goal.

The final was a rematch of a game that University School lost 7-3 AT HOME early in the year. University School started slow with 7 loses and multiple ties earlier in the year, but turned it on late in the season. They beat the defending state champions who returned their best player, then beat the #9 ranked team before beating 1,2,&3 at state.

Just goes to show you that no one is safe (Tonka). I was able to listen to part of the games live on the net over the last few days. Just got me VERY excited about the MN tourny this week.

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:07 pm
by hockeyfan893
Sounds like an awesome experience. Definitely agree with you on the "no one is safe" part, especially at this time of year. Good work University School!

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:09 pm
by defense
When a team gets hot a team gets hot. Nice job. Great experience for the players that they will likely take with them for their lives.....

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:31 pm
by HShockeywatcher
Just remember, Superior is WI's #6 team. :shock:

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:54 pm
by wbmd
LASERBLUE135 wrote:There is no WI forum, but I thought I would share this here.

A private school :x , University School out of Milwaukee beat the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams (all with only 1 loss on the season) in consecutive games to take the title! In the final they faced the team ranked #1 most of the year. They were OUTSHOT 45-17 but had the goalie that was able to ride them to the title 5-3 w/en goal.

The final was a rematch of a game that University School lost 7-3 AT HOME early in the year. University School started slow with 7 loses and multiple ties earlier in the year, but turned it on late in the season. They beat the defending state champions who returned their best player, then beat the #9 ranked team before beating 1,2,&3 at state.

Just goes to show you that no one is safe (Tonka). I was able to listen to part of the games live on the net over the last few days. Just got me VERY excited about the MN tourny this week.
University School also defeated Blake 4-2 back in November.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:00 pm
by flatontheice
wbmd wrote:
LASERBLUE135 wrote:There is no WI forum, but I thought I would share this here.

A private school :x , University School out of Milwaukee beat the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams (all with only 1 loss on the season) in consecutive games to take the title! In the final they faced the team ranked #1 most of the year. They were OUTSHOT 45-17 but had the goalie that was able to ride them to the title 5-3 w/en goal.

The final was a rematch of a game that University School lost 7-3 AT HOME early in the year. University School started slow with 7 loses and multiple ties earlier in the year, but turned it on late in the season. They beat the defending state champions who returned their best player, then beat the #9 ranked team before beating 1,2,&3 at state.

Just goes to show you that no one is safe (Tonka). I was able to listen to part of the games live on the net over the last few days. Just got me VERY excited about the MN tourny this week.
University School also defeated Blake 4-2 back in November.
Blake beat University School 4-2. You have it wrong. Shows how weak Wisconsin High School Hockey is.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:00 pm
by DasCondor
wbmd wrote:
LASERBLUE135 wrote:There is no WI forum, but I thought I would share this here.

A private school :x , University School out of Milwaukee beat the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams (all with only 1 loss on the season) in consecutive games to take the title! In the final they faced the team ranked #1 most of the year. They were OUTSHOT 45-17 but had the goalie that was able to ride them to the title 5-3 w/en goal.

The final was a rematch of a game that University School lost 7-3 AT HOME early in the year. University School started slow with 7 loses and multiple ties earlier in the year, but turned it on late in the season. They beat the defending state champions who returned their best player, then beat the #9 ranked team before beating 1,2,&3 at state.

Just goes to show you that no one is safe (Tonka). I was able to listen to part of the games live on the net over the last few days. Just got me VERY excited about the MN tourny this week.
University School also defeated Blake 4-2 back in November.
5 goals 17 shots haha goalie must of been playing amazing :lol:

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:26 pm
by LASERBLUE135
DasCondor wrote: 5 goals 17 shots haha goalie must of been playing amazing :lol:
The sad thing is they were playing their "hot" goalie. During the season they played two goalies, a junior and a soph. The junior was 2nd team all conference, but was NOT chosen to play the state games. They opted for the soph, his season stats: 1.15 gaa and .947 save%. He gave up all 4 goals on 10 shots in the 1st (they had an empty netter). Kid is not going to sleep well tonight.
flatontheice wrote: Blake beat University School 4-2. You have it wrong. Shows how weak Wisconsin High School Hockey is.
That is correct. WI is definetly a lower level of hockey, but this was early when University School was losing a lot.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:38 pm
by The51
Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey

flatontheice wrote:
wbmd wrote:
LASERBLUE135 wrote:There is no WI forum, but I thought I would share this here.

A private school :x , University School out of Milwaukee beat the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams (all with only 1 loss on the season) in consecutive games to take the title! In the final they faced the team ranked #1 most of the year. They were OUTSHOT 45-17 but had the goalie that was able to ride them to the title 5-3 w/en goal.

The final was a rematch of a game that University School lost 7-3 AT HOME early in the year. University School started slow with 7 loses and multiple ties earlier in the year, but turned it on late in the season. They beat the defending state champions who returned their best player, then beat the #9 ranked team before beating 1,2,&3 at state.

Just goes to show you that no one is safe (Tonka). I was able to listen to part of the games live on the net over the last few days. Just got me VERY excited about the MN tourny this week.
University School also defeated Blake 4-2 back in November.
Blake beat University School 4-2. You have it wrong. Shows how weak Wisconsin High School Hockey is.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:57 pm
by Black Ice
The51 wrote:Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey

flatontheice wrote:
wbmd wrote: University School also defeated Blake 4-2 back in November.
Blake beat University School 4-2. You have it wrong. Shows how weak Wisconsin High School Hockey is.
University School is typically one of the top teams every year in Wisconsin. Probably comparable to how HM or Breck is to Minnesota. They took longer to put it together this year , but are usually in the hunt by years end. Wisconsin does have 4 aaa teams vs 1 in Mn (Shattuck), but it looks like they are making strides every year in getting high school hockey to major status level. Some of their bigger cities still have to coop to put a team on the ice (ex: Appleton). Once they get teams for every decent size high school so intra-city rivalries are formed it'll take off and the state tournament will be more like Minnesotas. The sport sells itself. The more kids and families are exposed to it the more it will grow.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:01 pm
by codemanh
The51 wrote:Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey
I disagree. Midget AAA isn't really that much better. shattuck (Ranked #1 in the country according to myhockeyrankings.com) plays some of the better high schools closely. AHA lost by 1 goal and there not even a top team this year.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:38 pm
by HShockeywatcher
codemanh wrote:
The51 wrote:Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey
I disagree. Midget AAA isn't really that much better. shattuck (Ranked #1 in the country according to myhockeyrankings.com) plays some of the better high schools closely. AHA lost by 1 goal and there not even a top team this year.
The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:32 pm
by HockeyMN1
LASERBLUE135 wrote:There is no WI forum, but I thought I would share this here.

A private school :x , University School out of Milwaukee beat the #1, #2, and #3 ranked teams (all with only 1 loss on the season) in consecutive games to take the title! In the final they faced the team ranked #1 most of the year. They were OUTSHOT 45-17 but had the goalie that was able to ride them to the title 5-3 w/en goal.

The final was a rematch of a game that University School lost 7-3 AT HOME early in the year. University School started slow with 7 loses and multiple ties earlier in the year, but turned it on late in the season. They beat the defending state champions who returned their best player, then beat the #9 ranked team before beating 1,2,&3 at state.

Just goes to show you that no one is safe (Tonka). I was able to listen to part of the games live on the net over the last few days. Just got me VERY excited about the MN tourny this week.
Tonka is safe.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:38 pm
by Lucia4President
HShockeywatcher wrote:
codemanh wrote:
The51 wrote:Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey
I disagree. Midget AAA isn't really that much better. shattuck (Ranked #1 in the country according to myhockeyrankings.com) plays some of the better high schools closely. AHA lost by 1 goal and there not even a top team this year.
The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.
:-k

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:47 pm
by The51
HShockeywatcher wrote:
codemanh wrote:
The51 wrote:Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey
I disagree. Midget AAA isn't really that much better. shattuck (Ranked #1 in the country according to myhockeyrankings.com) plays some of the better high schools closely. AHA lost by 1 goal and there not even a top team this year.
The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.
you were half right, i had two main points.

1. The best players in Wisconsin do play Midget AAA not high school making it hard to compare it with Minnesota high school

2. About Midget AAA i meant it is much better for the hockey player and his development, instead of playing 25 regular season games you play 70 and also against much better talent. In high school hockey in minnesota the best players are spread out over many more teams.

The tier 1 elite league is the equivalent to the elite league if they played a 70 game regular season, except there are 19 more teams and the skill level is a little higher.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:50 pm
by WendyClark
HShockeywatcher wrote:
codemanh wrote:
The51 wrote:Wisconsin high school hockey is not very good becausethe best players there, like every other state, play midget aaa which is much better than Minnesota high school hockey
I disagree. Midget AAA isn't really that much better. shattuck (Ranked #1 in the country according to myhockeyrankings.com) plays some of the better high schools closely. AHA lost by 1 goal and there not even a top team this year.
The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.

I've tried to read it over and over and over and it does not make any sense

Girls basketball and losing to boys? What? :roll:

Might as well be speaking Greek, worst post i've ever seen

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:05 pm
by Irish24
The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.
Yea, I'm not sure what that means. And I disagree about the private school thing. It's always a good when HM wins but when any other private school team does it, it isn't.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:45 am
by PoniesDad45
Regarding WI hockey, my son's U16 team was in a tournament at Grantsburg, WI this year. We ended up playing a team from WI for the championship (and won). I thought they were pretty big for being U16 kids until I found out they were actually an all-star team from like 4 or 5 small towns from HS teams.

They were pretty physical and had some talent but they just didn't have very much depth so when their top 2 players were disqualified for 5 penalties each we ended up winning in OT.

So the moral of the story is they have a ways to go if they are sending teams to play MN U16 teams.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:13 am
by StillAnEagle
Ya I don't care....! Just kidding.. That's actually pretty cool. I'd like to see how the best teams in WI high school hockey stack up against the MN teams.

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:09 pm
by greatone
Superior is usually one of the better teams in WI. They play a pretty heavy load of MN teams. Sometimes they own the MN teams and others (Like this year) they struggle with them. They play the likes of Duluth Marshall, East, Denfield, Cloquet, Hermantown, etc. They were way down this year, but can compete at times...

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:37 pm
by StillAnEagle
greatone wrote:Superior is usually one of the better teams in WI. They play a pretty heavy load of MN teams. Sometimes they own the MN teams and others (Like this year) they struggle with them. They play the likes of Duluth Marshall, East, Denfield, Cloquet, Hermantown, etc. They were way down this year, but can compete at times...
Who have they "owned" from MN besides Moose Lake????

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:28 pm
by defense
StillAnEagle wrote:Ya I don't care....! Just kidding.. That's actually pretty cool. I'd like to see how the best teams in WI high school hockey stack up against the MN teams.
You already can know. Superior is usually a top Wisconsin team, they play in a conference with teams in NE Minnesota......

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:47 am
by HShockeywatcher
WendyClark wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
codemanh wrote: I disagree. Midget AAA isn't really that much better. shattuck (Ranked #1 in the country according to myhockeyrankings.com) plays some of the better high schools closely. AHA lost by 1 goal and there not even a top team this year.
The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.

I've tried to read it over and over and over and it does not make any sense

Girls basketball and losing to boys? What? :roll:

Might as well be speaking Greek, worst post i've ever seen
Say in a hypothetical world a girls hockey team played a boys hockey team. The girls team lost. Then their excuse for losing was that their best players chose to play basketball instead of being on the hockey team. Really it's just an excuse because even with their best players they would've still lost.

WI hockey and the quality of players who come out of WI are much lower than that of MN. Saying the best players play in a different league is simply an excuse.

If you can't understand English, send me a PM for a clarification, no reason to try to be rude about it.
The51 wrote: you were half right, i had two main points.

1. The best players in Wisconsin do play Midget AAA not high school making it hard to compare it with Minnesota high school

2. About Midget AAA i meant it is much better for the hockey player and his development, instead of playing 25 regular season games you play 70 and also against much better talent. In high school hockey in minnesota the best players are spread out over many more teams.

The tier 1 elite league is the equivalent to the elite league if they played a 70 game regular season, except there are 19 more teams and the skill level is a little higher.
That is great if a player is going to be a good hockey player, but it really takes away from the high school experience, and from other sports. Sure they are playing 3 times as many games, but they are also missing out on being on the football and baseball teams as well.

Not my place to say what track is better, but cross training is very good for the development of players. Some of the best players in the country come from MN where they play 26 games a year. Most of the good ones are either 2-4 sport athletes or in other hockey leagues year round.

Re: If you care, WI State Title goes to unranked team

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:46 pm
by The51
HShockeywatcher wrote:
WendyClark wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: The point wasn't that Midget AAA hockey is amazing, the comment was pointing out that WI's best player play it instead of high school hockey. Not sure if that's true or not, but considering Holy Angels lost to Shattuck late in the game this year (there are probably a couple of teams that could beat Shattuck this year) that doesn't make the quality any better.

Basically like a girls team saying their best players chose to play basketball being an excuse for losing to boys.

Congrats to University school. A private school winning is always a good thing. But that doesn't mean New Ulm or Lakeville North have much of a shot in a tournament with quality teams.

I've tried to read it over and over and over and it does not make any sense

Girls basketball and losing to boys? What? :roll:

Might as well be speaking Greek, worst post i've ever seen
Say in a hypothetical world a girls hockey team played a boys hockey team. The girls team lost. Then their excuse for losing was that their best players chose to play basketball instead of being on the hockey team. Really it's just an excuse because even with their best players they would've still lost.

WI hockey and the quality of players who come out of WI are much lower than that of MN. Saying the best players play in a different league is simply an excuse.

If you can't understand English, send me a PM for a clarification, no reason to try to be rude about it.
The51 wrote: you were half right, i had two main points.

1. The best players in Wisconsin do play Midget AAA not high school making it hard to compare it with Minnesota high school

2. About Midget AAA i meant it is much better for the hockey player and his development, instead of playing 25 regular season games you play 70 and also against much better talent. In high school hockey in minnesota the best players are spread out over many more teams.

The tier 1 elite league is the equivalent to the elite league if they played a 70 game regular season, except there are 19 more teams and the skill level is a little higher.
That is great if a player is going to be a good hockey player, but it really takes away from the high school experience, and from other sports. Sure they are playing 3 times as many games, but they are also missing out on being on the football and baseball teams as well.

Not my place to say what track is better, but cross training is very good for the development of players. Some of the best players in the country come from MN where they play 26 games a year. Most of the good ones are either 2-4 sport athletes or in other hockey leagues year round.
Thats what Im trying to say... you get much more development as a hockey player in this league, and how are they missing out on the high school experience? they still go to school.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:11 pm
by ilbok
PoniesDad45 wrote:Regarding WI hockey, my son's U16 team was in a tournament at Grantsburg, WI this year. We ended up playing a team from WI for the championship (and won). I thought they were pretty big for being U16 kids until I found out they were actually an all-star team from like 4 or 5 small towns from HS teams.

They were pretty physical and had some talent but they just didn't have very much depth so when their top 2 players were disqualified for 5 penalties each we ended up winning in OT.

So the moral of the story is they have a ways to go if they are sending teams to play MN U16 teams.
I worked the penalty box a few weeks ago when #1 ranked and previously unbeaten Minnetonka lost to Hudson's U16 team.

Hudson U16 beat or tied all the LPH top ranked Minnesota teams this year; however, the final ranking moved Hudson, WI down from 3rd to 8th for some Minnesota district playoff reason.

Looks like the Ponies will not have even U16 success as a remaining source of pride for long.