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kid from mpls storm 1st year bantam going to breckhockeyusa wrote:Who in Bantams will play varsity hockey next year, and make an impact on there team ?
My kid, my kids friend and my kid's friends, friends.hockeyusa wrote:Who in Bantams will play varsity hockey next year, and make an impact on there team ?
Reno (Edina) and Fashing (AV) played varsity hockey last season.this is science wrote:I am not sure in the spelling of these names, but reno, guenztel, fasching, cammaratta, lettieri, meyers ,bader ,knudson, sheehy .........
Would they be as good as they are if they were on different teams? How many really, really good Bantams are out there on small school teams, bad teams. Kid who just play for the love of the game and don't relocate to wherever they have the best chance of being noticed?ManBearPig wrote:Here is a rundown on the Top '95 born players as of now (from what I have heard!)....Much can change in a few years though as all of you know...
1. Fasching - Apple Valley H.S
2. Cammarata - Shattuck Bantam Tier I (Maple Grove)
3. Gross - Osseo/Maple Grove Bantam A
4. Reno - Edina H.S
5. Raskob - Shattuck Bantam Tier I (Hastings)
Yes.PoniesDad45 wrote:Would they be as good as they are if they were on different teams? How many really, really good Bantams are out there on small school teams, bad teams. Kid who just play for the love of the game and don't relocate to wherever they have the best chance of being noticed?ManBearPig wrote:Here is a rundown on the Top '95 born players as of now (from what I have heard!)....Much can change in a few years though as all of you know...
1. Fasching - Apple Valley H.S
2. Cammarata - Shattuck Bantam Tier I (Maple Grove)
3. Gross - Osseo/Maple Grove Bantam A
4. Reno - Edina H.S
5. Raskob - Shattuck Bantam Tier I (Hastings)
I'll bet the NHL is loaded with guys who weren't even noticed until they were well beyond the Bantam age.
I'll bet there's twice as many better than the guys on this list you have never heard of.muckandgrind wrote:Yes.PoniesDad45 wrote:Would they be as good as they are if they were on different teams? How many really, really good Bantams are out there on small school teams, bad teams. Kid who just play for the love of the game and don't relocate to wherever they have the best chance of being noticed?ManBearPig wrote:Here is a rundown on the Top '95 born players as of now (from what I have heard!)....Much can change in a few years though as all of you know...
1. Fasching - Apple Valley H.S
2. Cammarata - Shattuck Bantam Tier I (Maple Grove)
3. Gross - Osseo/Maple Grove Bantam A
4. Reno - Edina H.S
5. Raskob - Shattuck Bantam Tier I (Hastings)
I'll bet the NHL is loaded with guys who weren't even noticed until they were well beyond the Bantam age.
At the '95 age level....doubtful. Not too many secrets at this age. I've seen most of the kids at this age play at some point, whether for the associations or summer hockey. Give me a name to look for at the Adv 15 this w-end, if some of these players you are referring to better than guys on the list, I'm sure they'll be in New Hope at the Festival.PoniesDad45 wrote:I'll bet there's twice as many better than the guys on this list you have never heard of.muckandgrind wrote:Yes.PoniesDad45 wrote: Would they be as good as they are if they were on different teams? How many really, really good Bantams are out there on small school teams, bad teams. Kid who just play for the love of the game and don't relocate to wherever they have the best chance of being noticed?
I'll bet the NHL is loaded with guys who weren't even noticed until they were well beyond the Bantam age.
That's not the point...the question was who are the top Bantam-age players in the State right now.....of course, things can change over time. But, by and large, the elite players really start to separate themselves from the pack by the ages of 14-15.Gems wrote:Were talking about 14/15 year olds...there just getting started...a lot can change in 5 to 6 years for a player of this age and indeed most will...should be some fun hockey to watch this weekend. I like D6 as the favored but some say D10, D3 and D8 are right there as well...will see...good luck boys.
muckandgrind wrote:At the '95 age level....doubtful. Not too many secrets at this age. I've seen most of the kids at this age play at some point, whether for the associations or summer hockey. Give me a name to look for at the Adv 15 this w-end, if some of these players you are referring to better than guys on the list, I'm sure they'll be in New Hope at the Festival.PoniesDad45 wrote:I'll bet there's twice as many better than the guys on this list you have never heard of.muckandgrind wrote: Yes.
Any names?
Which is kinda why it is important to start looking for them beyond the AAA tournaments in Chicago and Detroit all winter.PoniesDad45 wrote:I'll bet the NHL is loaded with guys who weren't even noticed until they were well beyond the Bantam age.
These are pointless discussions. Someone asks who the top players are for this age and another offers up an informed opinion.PoniesDad45 wrote:I'll bet there's twice as many better than the guys on this list you have never heard of.
Another example is Tommy Zimmerman from Cretin. In bantams, he was clearly one of the top players and better than anyone Edina had, by there own admission. Obviously, the pack caught up and passed him, but it again does not change the fact that he was probably the most dominant first year bantam in the state.O-townClown wrote:These are pointless discussions. Someone asks who the top players are for this age and another offers up an informed opinion.PoniesDad45 wrote:I'll bet there's twice as many better than the guys on this list you have never heard of.
Your, probably uninformed, response is that better players are out there and he just hasn't heard of them. How could anyone prove this?
If there are twice as many that are better, name them.
What will happen, obviously, is that some kids will improve greatly and a large number will end up being better than at least one on his initial list. in three years you could say, "see! I told you!"
It doesn't change the fact they aren't better now.
A great thread on this board dates back about five years. I resurrected it a year or two ago. The question was, "who is the best out of Budish-Everson-Gaarder?"
Based on where they are today, Zach Budish is clearly the answer. He missed almost a season and was a 2nd Round pick. Next is Marshall Everson. He played at Harvard, and put up a good season on a bad team. I don't know where Connor Gaarder is now.
Funny thing is that more people said Gaarder was the best of that bunch when they were Bantams, and of course he wasn't even in the "big 3" as a senior because it was Anders Lee in his place in the pecking order.
You can find the thread by going back to March of either 2008 or 2009. While it validates the "a lot changes after Bantams" crowd, it doesn't change the fact that many thought Gaarder was the best in Bantams.