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A bit early to start talk but what the heck. Any thoughts?

Just_Another_Fan wrote:A bit early to start talk but what the heck. Any thoughts?

Rau and Marshall will be the pre-season favorites.

There are others who could be in the running, but they will need a great sr. season for anyone else to over take these two.

Rau should walk away with it, is Marshall even coming back?

Rau, especially with his Gopher commit.

Barring injury, Rau is a lock for Mr. Gopher. I mean Mr. Hockey. The Star Tribune All Metro players for 2010 will be:

Rau - F
Marshall - F
Horn - F
Everson - D
Molenaar - D
Engum - G

blueblood wrote:Barring injury, Rau is a lock for Mr. Gopher. I mean Mr. Hockey. The Star Tribune All Metro players for 2010 will be:

Rau - F
Marshall - F
Horn - F
Everson - D
Molenaar - D
Engum - G

I thought Marshall was a defensemen. Are they moving him up to prepare for his career with the Gophers (like Olimb)?

blueblood wrote:Barring injury, Rau is a lock for Mr. Gopher. I mean Mr. Hockey. The Star Tribune All Metro players for 2010 will be:

Rau - F
Marshall - F
Horn - F
Everson - D
Molenaar - D
Engum - G

Horn is going to be a Jr.

Goalies aren't eligible for Mr. Hockey, they have the Frank Brimsek Award.

Others
Omdahl - F
Hendrickson - F
Welinski - D
Bahe - F
Cameranesi - F

I think Rau will be the favorite, but I think Omdahl is going to have a very special season that will be difficult to ignore.

[quote="mngopherfan"][quote="blueblood"]Barring injury, Rau is a lock for Mr. Gopher. I mean Mr. Hockey. The Star Tribune All Metro players for 2010 will be:

Rau - F
Marshall - F
Horn - F
Everson - D
Molenaar - D
Engum - G[/quote]

Horn is going to be a Jr.[/quote]

You don't have to be a sr. to be on all metro.

Maybe they will change things up this year and choose a kid who has average talent, plays for a weak to average power school, has never played for the Blades or trained at MM. Maybe it will just be a really good kid who is loyal to his hometown school, is a good student, a good human being and a good representative for Minnesota HS Hockey. He has no aspirations beyond HS hockey except education but here and now he is a great choice.

I highly doubt this fantasy will ever come true.

As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.

hockeyfan893 wrote:As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.

It makes me sick what the politics and overtraining have done to hockey. Just look at what happened to New Ulm this year in the Tourney. A bunch of kids who probably play 3 other sports plus work full time on their family's farm. They finally make a State Tourney and they get their butts kicked by a bunch of kids who play hockey 11 months of the year, parents that spend 10 grand+ per year on extra training.

Why not pick one of the New Ulm kids? How many of those Breck kids can run a $200,000 combine or tractor, help run milking operations, work until 11pm at night, do their homework and get grades, play on the baseball, football AND hockey team for the pride of their school?

How about an example like that????

i think the days of farm kids playing three sports and working full time on the farm are long gone.
"politics" is alive and well in the heartland as well.

StayAtHomeD wrote:

hockeyfan893 wrote:As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.

It makes me sick what the politics and overtraining have done to hockey. Just look at what happened to New Ulm this year in the Tourney. A bunch of kids who probably play 3 other sports plus work full time on their family's farm. They finally make a State Tourney and they get their butts kicked by a bunch of kids who play hockey 11 months of the year, parents that spend 10 grand+ per year on extra training.

Why not pick one of the New Ulm kids? How many of those Breck kids can run a $200,000 combine or tractor, help run milking operations, work until 11pm at night, do their homework and get grades, play on the baseball, football AND hockey team for the pride of their school?

How about an example like that????

That sounds like a different award... Mr. Smart Farm Kid All-Around Good Athlete. I nominate your kid.

10 grand+ per year on extra training

I need to quit my job and open a summer hockey program.

a $200,000 combine

By the time you buy the heads, you could pay twice that much, but you don't really need to drive it.

How about an example like that????

Didn't they all get kicked out of a volleyball game?

StayAtHomeD wrote:

hockeyfan893 wrote:As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.

It makes me sick what the politics and overtraining have done to hockey. Just look at what happened to New Ulm this year in the Tourney. A bunch of kids who probably play 3 other sports plus work full time on their family's farm. They finally make a State Tourney and they get their butts kicked by a bunch of kids who play hockey 11 months of the year, parents that spend 10 grand+ per year on extra training.

Why not pick one of the New Ulm kids? How many of those Breck kids can run a $200,000 combine or tractor, help run milking operations, work until 11pm at night, do their homework and get grades, play on the baseball, football AND hockey team for the pride of their school?

How about an example like that????

I believe Rau has a 4.0 and plays for Eden Prairie where he grew up. I have no idea where/if he is employed but I think he is and should be the favorite for the award.

StayAtHomeD wrote:

hockeyfan893 wrote:As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.

It makes me sick what the politics and overtraining have done to hockey. Just look at what happened to New Ulm this year in the Tourney. A bunch of kids who probably play 3 other sports plus work full time on their family's farm. They finally make a State Tourney and they get their butts kicked by a bunch of kids who play hockey 11 months of the year, parents that spend 10 grand+ per year on extra training.

Tough world. Get over it.

The Mr. Hockey Award isn't about the best human being in Minnesota HS Hockey. It is about the BEST player in Minnesota High School Hockey.

StayAtHome -
Take your argument to the 4h forums as this is a hockey forum.
I have no idea but how many NU kids are actually farmers as well and if they are running 200k combines are they really as bad off as you make it sound. Any solid #'s on how many of them run milking operations?
So what if the EP kids don't play 3 sports. I am guessing its a lot tougher to play football at EP than New Ulm so what's Rau supposed to do be the third string safety and not focus on hockey in the fall which happens to be paying for his college. Would that make him a better candidate for Mr. HOCKEY?
Overtraining? Should we come up with a handicap system so that a team like NU has a 6-0 lead going into the game against breck because breck has better, quicker players who grew up playing against better competition than NU did. Come to think of it I bet a lot of them work til 11 on the farm because I can think of about 3 goals when I watched them that they seemed too worn out to even try and stop Breck from scoring.

http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog.com ... ol-players

post from last december,
note the top juniors - this year's mr. hockey candidates

http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog.com ... ol-players

This was his more recent one, in March-note Rau number 1

StayAtHomeD wrote:Maybe they will change things up this year and choose a kid who has average talent, plays for a weak to average power school, has never played for the Blades or trained at MM. Maybe it will just be a really good kid who is loyal to his hometown school, is a good student, a good human being and a good representative for Minnesota HS Hockey. He has no aspirations beyond HS hockey except education but here and now he is a great choice.

I highly doubt this fantasy will ever come true.

There should be an award for a kid like that, but Mr. Hockey is not that award. It should go to legitimately the best player no matter where he trained or is going to college. If those places are MM, Velocity, and the U it shouldn't be counted for or against him.

http://www.herbbrooksfoundation.com/awards3.html

It's only given out at the State Tourney unfortunately, but they clearly do touch on all of those aspects Stay was referencing (basically anyway).

there is an award for the kids playing in rural minnesota. the award is a spot on the high school team. many/most of the kids on small town teams never have to worry about making the team.
its not Mr. HOCKEY but it counts for something

mghockey18 wrote:

StayAtHomeD wrote:

hockeyfan893 wrote:As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.

It makes me sick what the politics and overtraining have done to hockey. Just look at what happened to New Ulm this year in the Tourney. A bunch of kids who probably play 3 other sports plus work full time on their family's farm. They finally make a State Tourney and they get their butts kicked by a bunch of kids who play hockey 11 months of the year, parents that spend 10 grand+ per year on extra training.

Tough world. Get over it.

The Mr. Hockey Award isn't about the best human being in Minnesota HS Hockey. It is about the BEST player in Minnesota High School Hockey.

Most of us wish the BEST player won every year. If the best player was really winning they could change the name to best player award instead of most hyped Gopher recruit.

ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:Most of us wish the BEST player won every year. If the best player was really winning they could change the name to best player award instead of most hyped Gopher recruit.

Considering half of the award winners (Ryan McDonagh, Brian Lee, Tom Gorowsky, and Nate Dey) out of the last eight selections didn't attend the U, you might want to find some new material.