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First of all AAA is misleading. At present there are about 30 summer teams at the 97 level that call themselves AAA. They are in fact everything from AAA to C. Many parents now feel that their kid has to play in the summer to compete in the winter. It is also as old goalie says, about $$$$$$$$$$JSR wrote:I actually was wondering why AAA clubs up there hold tryouts for Spring?summer teams in the fall period? Makes no sense to me especially at younger ages wehre kids can make huge strides over the course of an association season. You can easily have squirts and mites who don't look good enough in the fall that are easily good enough or better than the kids who made it come spring. All of the spring/summer AAA tryouts down here are held in March after association season is done. Perhaps someone can explin the advantage of the model of doing it now up there.
Quality yes .... Price Never !!old goalie85 wrote:As we become the "LAND OF 10,000 AAA TEAMS", I wonder if the price will fall off? [supply & demand]
They do.Many parents now feel that their kid has to play in the summer to compete in the winter.
Well ..that's one approach ..I guessold goalie85 wrote:Maybe full-time sales staffs. Paid on commission per kid, or teams filled. Bonus if you get kids that played A level assc. hockey.
If there was no benefit to so called AAA hockey, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It fills a need.. Summer hockey is the only place for C and B players to develop.. Trust me after peewees it will never happen in the Minnesota association model. So, if your connected, and your kids an A player, whats the problem??ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Great dialogue so far!!
I have not been shy on this board about my distaste for AAA hockey, I’m a huge proponent of being a kid and staying and playing hockey with your buddies.
My only thought is revenue generation is why these clubs try and host tryouts so early, C’mon – Easton, Monopoly, Raging Bulls, Bauer, Iceman, Reebok, Legacy (Just to name a few that have advertised tryouts) step up and tell us why you are hosting tryouts right in the middle of the heart of association tryouts??
Convince me your greed has boundries
It is more likely to happen in our model than any other in the country. It is the very reason I believe in the model, we have a place for kids to keep playing and if they are a late bloomer they can still advance to their ability level. You think average ability 10 year old players have a better shot if there are no associations? I hear all the rips on association hockey but the board members I meet seem to be reasonable people with the best interest of the kids in mind, I think there a few if any boards that are not looking for volunteers. If yours is broken get involved and help fix it.Quasar wrote:Summer hockey is the only place for C and B players to develop.. Trust me after peewees it will never happen in the Minnesota association model.
Anyone that's been around association hockey in large, and medium sized associations knows that most of the kids are pigeonholed by their first year of bantam. If they haven't made the list by then they never will. And all the talk in the world about late bloomers is just that talk. Let me say again .. The problem is not about 10 year old's . It's about 13 and 14, and the fact that everyone with any influence has been watching them since they were 8!!!royals dad wrote:It is more likely to happen in our model than any other in the country. It is the very reason I believe in the model, we have a place for kids to keep playing and if they are a late bloomer they can still advance to their ability level. You think average ability 10 year old players have a better shot if there are no associations? I hear all the rips on association hockey but the board members I meet seem to be reasonable people with the best interest of the kids in mind, I think there a few if any boards that are not looking for volunteers. If yours is broken get involved and help fix it.Quasar wrote:Summer hockey is the only place for C and B players to develop.. Trust me after peewees it will never happen in the Minnesota association model.
Club summer and Association winter is a system that is better than any other out there.
I'd say you hit the nail on the head !!No Political Connections wrote:I think it also has to do with competition amongst themselves. I bet (no data to support this just a WAG) that at one time they all had their tryouts in March/April time frame and then somebody decided to try to get a jump on the other guys by moving to October to "lock in" kids. Honestly I think that money plays a huge part in it but also bet that it is a matter of keeping up with the other guys in their quest for the upper level players. Nobody out there's advertising slogan is "we took the left overs".
They do as is the parents feel that way?InigoMontoya wrote:Most summer programs hold their tryouts in the fall because that's when the other programs are holding their tryouts. The thought is, if you don't find a kid and offer him/her a spot early, then you'll miss out on that kid to the programs that do hold tryouts early. If the parents write a check, then you get the kid locked in. In most parts of the country, tryouts for winter hockey are in the spring.
They do.Many parents now feel that their kid has to play in the summer to compete in the winter.
Ok .. I got that about the top 2....How about the bottom 2??[uote="Benito Juarez"] They do as is the parents feel that way?
or they do as in to compete in the winter?
I would say that some parents feel that way, but some kids compete just fine without AAA.
In our Association the top 2 kids in bantams do not play summer AAA, they were the top 2 PW's and before that they were the top 2 Squirts.
They don't saved $20,000.00
boils down to money, and pick of the litterThePuckStopsHere wrote:Great dialogue so far!!
I have not been shy on this board about my distaste for AAA hockey, I’m a huge proponent of being a kid and staying and playing hockey with your buddies.
My only thought is revenue generation is why these clubs try and host tryouts so early, C’mon – Easton, Monopoly, Raging Bulls, Bauer, Iceman, Reebok, Legacy (Just to name a few that have advertised tryouts) step up and tell us why you are hosting tryouts right in the middle of the heart of association tryouts??
Convince me your greed has boundries
Pick of the litter for sure ...Money seems to be no object.WickedSlapshot wrote:boils down to money, and pick of the litterThePuckStopsHere wrote:Great dialogue so far!!
I have not been shy on this board about my distaste for AAA hockey, I’m a huge proponent of being a kid and staying and playing hockey with your buddies.
My only thought is revenue generation is why these clubs try and host tryouts so early, C’mon – Easton, Monopoly, Raging Bulls, Bauer, Iceman, Reebok, Legacy (Just to name a few that have advertised tryouts) step up and tell us why you are hosting tryouts right in the middle of the heart of association tryouts??
Convince me your greed has boundries
Generally speaking, the bottom 2 are probably going to be somewhere towards the bottom with or without summer hockey.Quasar wrote: Ok .. I got that about the top 2....How about the bottom 2??