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I was at a game in rochester the other night and noticed that there is a very different kind of defense played at the game i was at as compared to the BSM vs HM, BSM vs Edina, and the games at the schwan cup. I am trying to understand how a team can seem like they should not be able to keep up with a much better team on the defensive end. In summary the team on offense comes out of their zone by using quick passes and has no difficulty. Once they hit the blue line the team on defense has at least four of their five players in the area between the blue lines and the team on offense who is the better team can not get through to the offensive blue line and inside the zone without dumping and seam to never get control of the puck after it is dumped.

The team on offense often tries to skate through the area between the blue lines but often just loses the puck and end up on defense themselves.


So the question is what kind of defense is this and is it used by the better teams also or just a certain type of squad. Also what kind of offense would break through this defense.

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:I was at a game in rochester the other night and noticed that there is a very different kind of defense played at the game i was at as compared to the BSM vs HM, BSM vs Edina, and the games at the schwan cup. I am trying to understand how a team can seem like they should not be able to keep up with a much better team on the defensive end. In summary the team on offense comes out of their zone by using quick passes and has no difficulty. Once they hit the blue line the team on defense has at least four of their five players in the area between the blue lines and the team on offense who is the better team can not get through to the offensive blue line and inside the zone without dumping and seam to never get control of the puck after it is dumped.

The team on offense often tries to skate through the area between the blue lines but often just loses the puck and end up on defense themselves.


So the question is what kind of defense is this and is it used by the better teams also or just a certain type of squad. Also what kind of offense would break through this defense.

Sounds like you described a "Trap." (a 1-2-2 setting)

That's a trap my friend. Just about every College/Pro team uses a 1-2-2 Neutral Zone Forecheck.

Trap it is and Maple Grove does it to perfection. Go to one of there games and watch it in person. There is no question that Maple Grove is the best overall defense, with Eagan a close second. The trap is a beautiful thing.

Trap it is and Maple Grove does it to perfection. Go to one of there games and watch it in person. There is no question that Maple Grove is the best overall defense, with Eagan a close second. The trap is a beautiful thing.

I am suprised that so many people have stated that they think it is a beatiful thing. What kind of offense works against that kind of defense. Is there a particular tactic an offense will use.

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:I am suprised that so many people have stated that they think it is a beatiful thing. What kind of offense works against that kind of defense. Is there a particular tactic an offense will use.

Did you ever watch the Minnesota Wild team play when Lamiere was coach?

the best offense against the trap is the dump and chase. the reason it works so well is that most coaches don't realize that the other team is using the trap

BodyShots wrote:

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:I am suprised that so many people have stated that they think it is a beatiful thing. What kind of offense works against that kind of defense. Is there a particular tactic an offense will use.

Did you ever watch the Minnesota Wild team play when Lamiere was coach?

Yes i did and I did not enjoy it then either. How does a team use their superior skill to beat the trap.

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:

BodyShots wrote:

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:I am suprised that so many people have stated that they think it is a beatiful thing. What kind of offense works against that kind of defense. Is there a particular tactic an offense will use.

Did you ever watch the Minnesota Wild team play when Lamiere was coach?

Yes i did and I did not enjoy it then either. How does a team use their superior skill to beat the trap.

Sound breakout/regrouping strategies then a dump and chase once across the red line; tire the defense out. Then forecheck, forecheck, forecheck.

If you have a defenseman that can rush the puck and sees the ice well enough to make the right pass once the trap has been busted that works pretty well. Also the players without the puck need to move to the open spaces, too often they caught standing and watching making the trap even more effective.

If you don't do that, well, then you'll turn the puck over at one of the bluelines more times than not.

That sounds like an 0-5 forcheck... Chaska tried to do it to us once. We ended up killing them 13-0. So not exactly what you're saying as far as the result.

PuckU126 wrote:

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:

BodyShots wrote: Did you ever watch the Minnesota Wild team play when Lamiere was coach?

Yes i did and I did not enjoy it then either. How does a team use their superior skill to beat the trap.

Sound breakout/regrouping strategies then a dump and chase once across the red line; tire the defense out. Then forecheck, forecheck, forecheck.

Could someone help me by explaining sound breakout/regrouping.