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sections vs. conferences
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:56 am
by MGP103
Why so much movement?
5AA. As an example. Why does elk river, andover, and armstrong get shipped out come sections and they bring in Irondale? Just wondering on the logic of this. I would love too see divisions and sections be the same.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:15 am
by MGP103
I would love to see 8 divisions that are the sections. Keep the rivaleries in sections and not ship teams here and there.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:50 am
by karl(east)
Every 2 years, the MSHSL realigns sections. They do this because just about every year something shifts (schools open or close, teams move in or out of co-ops, choose to opt up to AA or stop opting up, enrollments change, etc.). Since they want to keep the same number of teams in each section, and maintain the geographic integrity of the sections, they make the necessary changes.
7AA is a prime example...if we look at the section 10 years ago, it included Greenway (then a AA power, now an A doormat), and Hibbing (has also since dropped to A), along with Brainerd (makes more sense for them to be in 8AA). If they hadn't changed, there would be 5 teams left. That's why they've had to add a bunch of north metro area teams.
It can also make sense for competitive balance...10 years ago Wayzata, Eden Prairie, Edina, and Minnetonka were all in 6AA. If you add Benilde to that (who opted up a few years later), that would be even more insane than it currently is.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:58 am
by elliott70
By divisions I assume you mean conferences.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:07 am
by MGP103
yes I ment confrences my bad.
Thanks for the clarification Karl.
Always wondered why Irondale comes in to section 5AA when they rarely play anyone from NWSC throughout the year.
just seems like there would be a better way but I guess there really isnt.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:31 am
by MNHockeyFan
Don't forget that conferences can change big-time also, as we just saw with the old Classic Lake and the "new" Lake and South Suburban teams. If sections strictly followed conferences it would be a real mess, PLUS it would encourage all teams to join a conference that was as weak as possible, i.e. BSM would love the North Suburban to be it's Section 6AA to get to State!

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:26 pm
by outside_observer
Current Rankings are
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- Section: 1
Farmington High School
Lakeville North High School
20 Lakeville South High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century High School
Rochester John Marshall
Rochester Mayo High School
Coop: 234 "Dodge County Wildcats"
Byron High School
Dover-Eyota High School
Hayfield High School
Kasson-Mantorville High School (HOST)
Pine Island High School
Triton High School
Coop: 490 "Winona Winhawks"
Cotter High School
Hope Lutheran High School
Saint Charles High School
Winona High School (HOST)
Section: 2
16 Academy of Holy Angels
Bloomington Jefferson High School
Bloomington Kennedy High School
10 Burnsville High School
Chanhassen High School
2 Edina High School
Prior Lake High School
Shakopee High School
Section: 3
12 Apple Valley High School
Cretin-Derham Hall High School
7 Eagan High School
East Ridge High School
Eastview High School
Hastings High School
Henry Sibley High School
Park High School
Rosemount High School
Woodbury High School
Section: 4
4 Hill-Murray School
Mounds View High School
North High School
19 Roseville Area High School
Stillwater Area High School
Tartan High School
14 White Bear Lake Area High School
Coop: 405 "Saint Paul Como Cougars"
Saint Paul Central High School
Saint Paul Como Park H.S. (HOST)
Section: 5
Anoka High School
17 Blaine High School
Centennial High School
Champlin Park High School
Coon Rapids High School
9 Maple Grove High School
Coop: 227 "Irondale Knights"
Irondale High School (HOST)
Saint Anthony Village High School
Coop: 342 "Osseo H.S."
Maranatha Christian Academy
Osseo High School (HOST)
Coop: 345 "North Metro Stars"
Brooklyn Center High School
Columbia Heights High School
Fridley High School
Park Center High School (HOST)
Section: 6
5 Benilde-St. Margaret's School
1 Eden Prairie High School
Hopkins High School
8 Minnetonka High School
Robbinsdale Armstrong High School
Robbinsdale Cooper High School
6 Wayzata High School
Coop: 296 "Minneapolis Novas"
Great River School
Minneapolis Edison High School
Minneapolis North Community H.S.
Minneapolis Patrick Henry H. S.
Minneapolis Roosevelt High School
Minneapolis South High School
Minneapolis Southwest High School (HOST)
Minneapolis Washburn High School
Minnesota Transitions Charter School
Section: 7
Andover High School
Cambridge-Isanti High School
3 Duluth East High School
Forest Lake High School
11 Grand Rapids High School
Saint Francis High School
18 Coop: 103 "C-E-C Lumberjacks"
Carlton High School
Cloquet High School (HOST)
Esko High School
Coop: 146 "Elk River/Zimmerman"
Elk River High School (HOST)
Zimmerman High School
Section: 8
15 Bemidji High School
Buffalo High School
13 Moorhead High School
Roseau High School
Saint Cloud Tech High School
Coop: 37 "Becker/Big Lake"
Becker High School (HOST)
Big Lake High School
Coop: 60 "Brainerd/Pillager/Pierz"
Brainerd High School (HOST)
Pierz High School
Pillager High School
Coop: 306 "Monticello-Annandale-Maple Lak"
Annandale High School
Maple Lake High School
Monticello High School (HOST)
Coop: 380 "River Lakes Stars"
Albany High School
Belgrade-Brooten-Elrosa H.S.
Eden Valley-Watkins High School
New London-Spicer High School
Paynesville Area High School
Rocori High School (HOST)
Saint John's Prep