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Classy post has teams begin section competion next week.

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I'm not sure if this means that there are two that Larry isn't yet posting as the teams are still active. That could well be - which is probably the classy way to handle it until the teams are eliminated or told by their coaches/admin - and that could have already happened I suppose.

Shantel Rivard has resigned as Woodbury High School Girls Hockey Coach.

1. Woodbury
2. Announcement, tomorrow night maybe?

Wow - this is early. This will give the program(s) a lot of time to find good candidates.

Larry Blackstone wrote:1. Shantel Rivard Woodbury Resigned
2. Announcement, tomorrow night maybe?

hate your daughter's coach eh?

This post isn't meant to be disrespectful, it is meant as an opportunity to fill these positions as fast as possible for continuity, positivity and growth of the programs.

1. Woodbury
2. Starts with B
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Burnsville just played an hour ago... did he resign after the game?

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Yes, it does matter- official, then he resigned. Not official, then he didn't (or hasn't yet) and probably doesn't need a rumor started.

1. Woodbury - resigned
2. Burnsville - resigned (Official)
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Cut Above wrote:1. Woodbury - resigned
2. Burnsville - resigned
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Two great opportunities to (re)build programs. Here's to hoping some former girls' players return to coach in these programs!!!

ghshockeyfan wrote:

Cut Above wrote:1. Woodbury - resigned
2. Burnsville - resigned
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Two great opportunities to (re)build programs. Here's to hoping some former girls' players return to coach in these programs!!!

Larry Blackstone wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote:

Cut Above wrote:1. Woodbury - resigned
2. Burnsville - resigned
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Two great opportunities to (re)build programs. Here's to hoping some former girls' players return to coach in these programs!!!

1. Woodbury
2. Burnsville
3. Mounds View

Yes, Mounds View is still playing this season (thrilling 4OT win vs. Irondale last night). The current head coach Pete Aus stepped in early in the season. This article has some background: http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps/135488068.html

Apparently Aus will not be returning, the job was recently posted for 2012-13: http://www.applitrack.com/moundsview/on ... Activities&

Larry Blackstone wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote:

Cut Above wrote:1. Woodbury - resigned
2. Burnsville - resigned
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Two great opportunities to (re)build programs. Here's to hoping some former girls' players return to coach in these programs!!!

Larry...obviously you did not like GHS's comment so who do you want to BV to hire? What's your agenda?

pickme wrote:

Larry Blackstone wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote: Two great opportunities to (re)build programs. Here's to hoping some former girls' players return to coach in these programs!!!

Larry...obviously you did not like GHS's comment so who do you want to BV to hire? What's your agenda?

I can't speak for Larry, and I have no agenda. What I would say to GHS if I had the chance, is often our quality young ladies who have played the game are pushed into HC duties before they are equipped to handle all that comes with the job. I think this is doing a disservice to the game, as many of them get pushed out of the game to quickly due to having a bad experience. I feel we would be better served to bring in these kids in asst positions slowly train them to handle all the duties of the HC, and make sure that we are building quality HC candidates from our former talent base. My vote would be that we fill open positions with the best candidate available regardless of gender, but continue to find ways to support our former players, and get them involved in the game again wether that be as a coach at the HS or Youth level, official, or just a positive role model in the community.

I agree with what you're saying. But, coaching is very different today than 15 years ago but also different than 15 years ago is that there are a lot of women around now that played hockey at a high level. I believe it's vitally important to have a female or two on any HS varsity coaching staff. Having another on the JV staff is important too. Not to pigeon hole roles or responsibilities but the women coaches usually can have a different relationship with the female players than a male coach can. Building team unity and chemistry is an important factor in team success and a female coach on the staff can often accomplish some of the important team bonding more easily than an all male staff. And, as were saying, there are now women available to be part of coaching staffs. It needs to be an attractive opportunity or it will continue to be difficult to attract the women coaches.

allhoc11 wrote:

pickme wrote:

Larry Blackstone wrote:

Larry...obviously you did not like GHS's comment so who do you want to BV to hire? What's your agenda?

I can't speak for Larry, and I have no agenda. What I would say to GHS if I had the chance, is often our quality young ladies who have played the game are pushed into HC duties before they are equipped to handle all that comes with the job. I think this is doing a disservice to the game, as many of them get pushed out of the game to quickly due to having a bad experience. I feel we would be better served to bring in these kids in asst positions slowly train them to handle all the duties of the HC, and make sure that we are building quality HC candidates from our former talent base. My vote would be that we fill open positions with the best candidate available regardless of gender, but continue to find ways to support our former players, and get them involved in the game again wether that be as a coach at the HS or Youth level, official, or just a positive role model in the community.

observer wrote:I agree with what you're saying. But, coaching is very different today than 15 years ago but also different than 15 years ago is that there are a lot of women around now that played hockey at a high level. I believe it's vitally important to have a female or two on any HS varsity coaching staff. Having another on the JV staff is important too. Not to pigeon hole roles or responsibilities but the women coaches usually can have a different relationship with the female players than a male coach can. Building team unity and chemistry is an important factor in team success and a female coach on the staff can often accomplish some of the important team bonding more easily than an all male staff. And, as were saying, there are now women available to be part of coaching staffs. It needs to be an attractive opportunity or it will continue to be difficult to attract the women coaches.

pickme wrote:

Larry Blackstone wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote: Two great opportunities to (re)build programs. Here's to hoping some former girls' players return to coach in these programs!!!

Larry...obviously you did not like GHS's comment so who do you want to BV to hire? What's your agenda?

observer wrote:I agree with what you're saying. But, coaching is very different today than 15 years ago but also different than 15 years ago is that there are a lot of women around now that played hockey at a high level. I believe it's vitally important to have a female or two on any HS varsity coaching staff. Having another on the JV staff is important too. Not to pigeon hole roles or responsibilities but the women coaches usually can have a different relationship with the female players than a male coach can. Building team unity and chemistry is an important factor in team success and a female coach on the staff can often accomplish some of the important team bonding more easily than an all male staff. And, as were saying, there are now women available to be part of coaching staffs. It needs to be an attractive opportunity or it will continue to be difficult to attract the women coaches.

Well I will say this there is a major difference between playing the game at a high level, and coaching & developing players to play the game at a high level. I think that was my point we have a responsibility to find ways to get former players involved in the game, and make their experience a positive one so they stick with it. Slapping them with the HC title because they were a high level player isn't the answer. With all this said you are forgetting one major point. The primary goal of most of these young ladies when the finish college isn't to be a hockey coach, it's typically to find a full time job. I know this is an absurd statement, but finding a two-three hour a day, six day a week job that pays below minimum wage isn't always high on a recent college grads list of things to do. In addition to that the ice times typically fall right in the middle of a normal work day, so it is often difficult to make it work when you are just starting a new full time job. Furthermore in some communities it's very difficult to find quality former players who understand that coaching hockey is very little about hockey, and more about teaching our youth how to grow into quality adults. Which brings me back to my point that in the "big picture" of things our game is young. The goal of most schools should be to find the best available candidate for a job, with the hope being that candidate will in turn find ways to get former players involved in their program at the appropriate level to make sure the experience is as positive as it can be. I have seen this game grow over the past 15 years, and there are so many more quality young women coming back to the game now, and if we support them and allow them to grow there will be a time when they are ready to be quality head coaches that can sustain a program over time.

allhoc11 wrote:

observer wrote:I agree with what you're saying. But, coaching is very different today than 15 years ago but also different than 15 years ago is that there are a lot of women around now that played hockey at a high level. I believe it's vitally important to have a female or two on any HS varsity coaching staff. Having another on the JV staff is important too. Not to pigeon hole roles or responsibilities but the women coaches usually can have a different relationship with the female players than a male coach can. Building team unity and chemistry is an important factor in team success and a female coach on the staff can often accomplish some of the important team bonding more easily than an all male staff. And, as were saying, there are now women available to be part of coaching staffs. It needs to be an attractive opportunity or it will continue to be difficult to attract the women coaches.

Well I will say this there is a major difference between playing the game at a high level, and coaching & developing players to play the game at a high level. I think that was my point we have a responsibility to find ways to get former players involved in the game, and make their experience a positive one so they stick with it. Slapping them with the HC title because they were a high level player isn't the answer. With all this said you are forgetting one major point. The primary goal of most of these young ladies when the finish college isn't to be a hockey coach, it's typically to find a full time job. I know this is an absurd statement, but finding a two-three hour a day, six day a week job that pays below minimum wage isn't always high on a recent college grads list of things to do. In addition to that the ice times typically fall right in the middle of a normal work day, so it is often difficult to make it work when you are just starting a new full time job. Furthermore in some communities it's very difficult to find quality former players who understand that coaching hockey is very little about hockey, and more about teaching our youth how to grow into quality adults. Which brings me back to my point that in the "big picture" of things our game is young. The goal of most schools should be to find the best available candidate for a job, with the hope being that candidate will in turn find ways to get former players involved in their program at the appropriate level to make sure the experience is as positive as it can be. I have seen this game grow over the past 15 years, and there are so many more quality young women coming back to the game now, and if we support them and allow them to grow there will be a time when they are ready to be quality head coaches that can sustain a program over time.