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Forwards:
Justin Kloos (12) – 25 GP – 34G- 47A – 81 Points
Grant Besse (11) – 25 GP – 40G – 35A – 75 Points
Newton Fuller (12) – 25 GP – 33G – 41A – 74 Points
Jake Guentzel (11) – 25 GP – 21G – 46A – 67 Points
Jake Randolph (12) – 25 GP – 32G – 34A – 66 Points

Defense:
Meirs Moore (12) – 25 GP – 11G – 31A – 42 Points
Jordan Gross (11) – 25 GP – 15G- 24A – 39 Points
Jake Bischoff (11) – 24 GP – 11G – 26A – 37 Points
Ryan Swanson (10) – 25 GP – 4G – 33A – 37 Points
Frankie Mork (11) – 24 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points
Jake Horton (12) – 25 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points

starmvp wrote:Forwards:
Justin Kloos (12) – 25 GP – 34G- 47A – 81 Points
Grant Besse (11) – 25 GP – 40G – 41A – 75 Points
Newton Fuller (12) – 25 GP – 33G – 41A – 74 Points
Jake Guentzel (11) – 25 GP – 21G – 46A – 67 Points
Jake Randolph (12) – 25 GP – 32G – 34A – 66 Points


Defense:
Meirs Moore (12) – 25 GP – 11G – 31A – 42 Points
Jordan Gross (11) – 25 GP – 15G- 24A – 39 Points
Jake Bischoff (11) – 24 GP – 11G – 26A – 37 Points
Ryan Swanson (10) – 25 GP – 4G – 33A – 37 Points
Frankie Mork (11) – 24 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points
Jake Horton (12) – 25 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points

Is Minneapolis AA? (Newton Fuller)

6AA, they will most likely be the unfortunate victims of Minnetonka's first round game.

starmvp wrote:Forwards:
Justin Kloos (12) – 25 GP – 34G- 47A – 81 Points
Grant Besse (11) – 25 GP – 40G – 41A – 75 Points
Newton Fuller (12) – 25 GP – 33G – 41A – 74 Points
Jake Guentzel (11) – 25 GP – 21G – 46A – 67 Points
Jake Randolph (12) – 25 GP – 32G – 34A – 66 Points

Defense:
Meirs Moore (12) – 25 GP – 11G – 31A – 42 Points
Jordan Gross (11) – 25 GP – 15G- 24A – 39 Points
Jake Bischoff (11) – 24 GP – 11G – 26A – 37 Points
Ryan Swanson (10) – 25 GP – 4G – 33A – 37 Points
Frankie Mork (11) – 24 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points
Jake Horton (12) – 25 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points

Btw, I'm pretty sure Bischoff was injured early in the season and missed 6-7 games. Don't think he played 24 games.

Roseauverrated wrote:6AA, they will most likely be the unfortunate victims of Minnetonka's first round game.

Thanks. That one will get ugly!

Sats81 wrote:

starmvp wrote:Forwards:
Justin Kloos (12) – 25 GP – 34G- 47A – 81 Points
Grant Besse (11) – 25 GP – 40G – 41A – 75 Points
Newton Fuller (12) – 25 GP – 33G – 41A – 74 Points
Jake Guentzel (11) – 25 GP – 21G – 46A – 67 Points
Jake Randolph (12) – 25 GP – 32G – 34A – 66 Points

Defense:
Meirs Moore (12) – 25 GP – 11G – 31A – 42 Points
Jordan Gross (11) – 25 GP – 15G- 24A – 39 Points
Jake Bischoff (11) – 24 GP – 11G – 26A – 37 Points
Ryan Swanson (10) – 25 GP – 4G – 33A – 37 Points
Frankie Mork (11) – 24 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points
Jake Horton (12) – 25 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points

Btw, I'm pretty sure Bischoff was injured early in the season and missed 6-7 games. Don't think he played 24 games.

All based off Hockey Hub

If you take into account strength of schedule, this list changes dramatically. Including only teams in the top 20 SOS, the forwards are, for example:

Justin Kloos 81
Jake Randolph 66
Dom Toninato 61
Alex Harvey (LS) 60
Vinni Lettieri (Tonka) 58

Check those numbers for Grant Besse. Either the numbers or the addition is incorrect ...

gopherpuck516 wrote:Check those numbers for Grant Besse. Either the numbers or the addition is incorrect ...

Gotcha

just wondering but how do you determine the SOS of of a team.
thanks

Demongoed- I think you make a good point.. factoring in the SOS I personally think Randolph's 66 points are more impressive than Besse's 75 points. Obviously both are great players and its not Besse's fault his team didn't play the competition DE played but if you look at his stats a big chunk of them came against terrible competition in blow out games. I know the BSM people will grill me on this and I'm not saying he didn't have an impressive season, I just take it with a grain of salt.

gray5 wrote:just wondering but how do you determine the SOS of of a team.
thanks

I'm guessing he used this.

Sats81 wrote:

starmvp wrote:Forwards:
Justin Kloos (12) – 25 GP – 34G- 47A – 81 Points
Grant Besse (11) – 25 GP – 40G – 41A – 75 Points
Newton Fuller (12) – 25 GP – 33G – 41A – 74 Points
Jake Guentzel (11) – 25 GP – 21G – 46A – 67 Points
Jake Randolph (12) – 25 GP – 32G – 34A – 66 Points

Defense:
Meirs Moore (12) – 25 GP – 11G – 31A – 42 Points
Jordan Gross (11) – 25 GP – 15G- 24A – 39 Points
Jake Bischoff (11) – 24 GP – 11G – 26A – 37 Points
Ryan Swanson (10) – 25 GP – 4G – 33A – 37 Points
Frankie Mork (11) – 24 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points
Jake Horton (12) – 25 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points

Btw, I'm pretty sure Bischoff was injured early in the season and missed 6-7 games. Don't think he played 24 games.

Yeah. According to the Grand Rapids website, Bischoff has only played 19 games. That means he's averaged almost 2 points per game.

eviemags wrote:

Sats81 wrote:

starmvp wrote:Forwards:
Justin Kloos (12) – 25 GP – 34G- 47A – 81 Points
Grant Besse (11) – 25 GP – 40G – 41A – 75 Points
Newton Fuller (12) – 25 GP – 33G – 41A – 74 Points
Jake Guentzel (11) – 25 GP – 21G – 46A – 67 Points
Jake Randolph (12) – 25 GP – 32G – 34A – 66 Points

Defense:
Meirs Moore (12) – 25 GP – 11G – 31A – 42 Points
Jordan Gross (11) – 25 GP – 15G- 24A – 39 Points
Jake Bischoff (11) – 24 GP – 11G – 26A – 37 Points
Ryan Swanson (10) – 25 GP – 4G – 33A – 37 Points
Frankie Mork (11) – 24 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points
Jake Horton (12) – 25 GP – 12G – 24A – 36 Points

Btw, I'm pretty sure Bischoff was injured early in the season and missed 6-7 games. Don't think he played 24 games.

Yeah. According to the Grand Rapids website, Bischoff has only played 19 games. That means he's averaged almost 2 points per game.

Bischoff has played a number of games at forward, so his points/game for a D are somewhat inflated.

I think Bischoff was out for the entire Edina Holiday Classic (at a minimum). I don't think there is any way that 24 games played is the correct number - someone from Rapids should be able to verify.

Yes, I did use the Minnhock figures. No, it's not Besse's fault his team's schedule is weaker, but given the big difference in competition, these numbers don't mean as much as one would think. I'm not willing to do the work, but it would be interesting to compare stats with common opponents.

gitter wrote:I think Bischoff was out for the entire Edina Holiday Classic (at a minimum). I don't think there is any way that 24 games played is the correct number - someone from Rapids should be able to verify.

Yeah Bischoff played 19 games

rainier wrote:

eviemags wrote:

Sats81 wrote: Btw, I'm pretty sure Bischoff was injured early in the season and missed 6-7 games. Don't think he played 24 games.

Yeah. According to the Grand Rapids website, Bischoff has only played 19 games. That means he's averaged almost 2 points per game.

Bischoff has played a number of games at forward, so his points/game for a D are somewhat inflated.

Maybe 3 - 4 at the most. He is more of a threat offensively when he's playing D.