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Thank you to hockey21, tigers, and imcent on the info before the thread was pulled.

Why is the Centennial topic such a problem that it keeps getting locked or deleted?

I think the only reason the other posts were taken down or locked is one of the named above is one of the coaches. Just a guess.

I feel there is now a disconnect with who is really coaching this team. I think this co-coaching thing is a bad idea and bad for the program. I think if coach Diggins really wants to be the head football coach then go coach football and do that well. There are plenty of football parents disappointed that he is not focusing on that sport full time as well. Also coach Domschot needs to figure out if he really wants to coach HS hockey, Football or his kids youth team. I have a hard time listening to a coach complaining about the time commitment only into his second year of being named the head coach of the program. I fell if this continues only the players will suffer in the end.

I just find it odd because I have read plenty of negative comments and have noticed people "fighting" on the Forum and haven't seen other subjects get locked or deleted. What is someone so afraid of?

secretpattern3 wrote:I just find it odd because I have read plenty of negative comments and have noticed people "fighting" on the Forum and haven't seen other subjects get locked or deleted. What is someone so afraid of?

Maybe they are saving you from yourselves. The airing of grievances on a forum like this will never make your program better. Sure people like to read the posts just like they slow down at a traffic accident but it will only serve to poison the well, even more than it sounds like it already is.

Loose the whispers and the anonymous posts. Players and parents talk to your coaches, Captains, and talk to your AD, get some good communication going in your program. Every team in the state has parents who think that their kid got screwed by the coach (on JV, on 3rd line, bad line mates, didn't develop enough,...) those parents run half the programs on to the rocks. Yes there are coaches who stink, yes there are ADs who stink, and yes sometimes a change is the best thing. That said we are burning through Girls HS Coaches at an alarming rate and rolling the dice and a new one doesn't always have the desired effect. Anyway good luck, I have meet some really nice kids from your program I hope you get it righted for them.

I live in Delano, by no means a coach for them. I do know some people involved with the hockey program though, and royals dad said it best.

Have your kid talk to the coach, or asst. coach first. I understand some girls might feel intimidated going up to the head coach, so approach the assistant.

Parents need to treat their kids sports like their jobs. If you have an issue at work do you go straight to the CEO? More then likely probably not. I am going to guess you go to your immediate supervisor (The coach) and if after a few attempts to right the situation that doesnt work than go to your department manager (The AD). Now after the player meets with the coach, than the player-parent-coach, and last the player-parent-coach-AD.

royals dad wrote:

secretpattern3 wrote:I just find it odd because I have read plenty of negative comments and have noticed people "fighting" on the Forum and haven't seen other subjects get locked or deleted. What is someone so afraid of?

Maybe they are saving you from yourselves. The airing of grievances on a forum like this will never make your program better. Sure people like to read the posts just like they slow down at a traffic accident but it will only serve to poison the well, even more than it sounds like it already is.

Loose the whispers and the anonymous posts. Players and parents talk to your coaches, Captains, and talk to your AD, get some good communication going in your program. Every team in the state has parents who think that their kid got screwed by the coach (on JV, on 3rd line, bad line mates, didn't develop enough,...) those parents run half the programs on to the rocks. Yes there are coaches who stink, yes there are ADs who stink, and yes sometimes a change is the best thing. That said we are burning through Girls HS Coaches at an alarming rate and rolling the dice and a new one doesn't always have the desired effect. Anyway good luck, I have meet some really nice kids from your program I hope you get it righted for them.

I had a long response to this, but couldn't say it better than this! bravo royals dad, bravo.

I am all for open communication. So what if a parents question has nothing to do with a player? What if they just want to talk to a coach about the season? I know what you’re thinking, when a parent wants to talk about the season they are complaining. Not always the case. This coaching staff has a closed door policy when parents what to ask questions. They said they would walk out of a meeting if questions were asked. Is this normal around the league?

I know I have asked many coaches question at the youth level and HS level and have not always agreed with their answer but at least I came away with a better understanding of why they made a particular decision. I am sure that is why this post was started, someone wants answer.

PASS-SHOOT-SCORE wrote:I am all for open communication. So what if a parents question has nothing to do with a player? What if they just want to talk to a coach about the season? I know what you’re thinking, when a parent wants to talk about the season they are complaining. Not always the case. This coaching staff has a closed door policy when parents what to ask questions. They said they would walk out of a meeting if questions were asked. Is this normal around the league?

I know I have asked many coaches question at the youth level and HS level and have not always agreed with their answer but at least I came away with a better understanding of why they made a particular decision. I am sure that is why this post was started, someone wants answer.

I don't think many HS coaches field questions about the season to parents. I would think you are referring to the type of questions in the previous thread (i.e. why did you cut so and so, or what is the strategy with the JV team). There is a classic scene in the movie Hoosiers where Gene Hackman is drinking coffee in the barber shop and exits the parent/town meeting on how he is the team is being run. Coaches Coach, Players play, Parents are fans (and financiers) welcome to HS sports. Now it is different when your player or you have a question about her that is the communication that I was talking about. I think coaches like to get a player who says "next year I would like to achieve X, my plan for the summer is Y, do you have any suggestions for me". What does your player want to achieve, make varsity, become a D1 prospect, be on the #1 power play? Have them talk to the coaching staff, make a plan, and do the work. That is what happens in some really successful programs.

I'm a Casual reader/observer and first time poster/commenter. Parent of a player on the HS team and former coach to many of the girls in one way or another during their youth years. (and because the U12 and U14 success most of these girls had doesn't translate to anything in HS according to a comment in a previous thread, I'm thinking my opinion or knowledge of these girls and program will be pointless to some) (and I hope my kid wont miss any minutes). But, Like most all of those venting, commenting or what have you on here, My family and I have given time, blood, cheers, tears, broken bones and money to the CYHA/CHS program and others to be "good enough" to make the Centennial HS program.

The community is full of Hockey talents in ALL aspects, Kids, Coaches, and parents. And like most of Minnesota we are very passionate about this sport. This is not to discredit or disrespect ANY other association or HS program, but most of us here are tired of hearing the past few yrs "we aren't that good this year" ... Most the names on the mtk roster, Edina, mv, Wyz, EP, Rose, ER, and so on, are the same names these kids played against ( and some cases with) their whole hockey lives. So, what do they do that is so different then our program? Is the water better in those places that makes them better HS hockey players? We know everyone has down years. We are competitive in our conference most games, so what has to be done to make us successful? Change conferences or class? (not realistic ..just saying.. lol)

Is that the parents? is that the players? is it the coaches? People and programs judge their success in different ways right? So, don't say that someone moving to a different program with different views of success is selfish if your view of success is not making a run to the X. Did the 2 that left this season make that much of a difference when it came to winning in sections? Yes, according to another post on a previous thread... "it was the goaltending" (with 2 of the 3 that started a Varsity game this year being above .923 and 1 of those 2 being top 5 in state and metro honorable mention). I think it was having 10 Penalties and Giving up all 4 goals short handed... (That's the undisciplined skaters and the bad goaltender who had 42 other saves)

Parents say coaches and/or ineffective system/s. Coaches say unrealistic parents and kids who wont learn and that are head cases. And the girls say, umm.....?????..... negativity, coached yelled at me, and ......I don't know what they want me to do?


Yes, all of us have to take responsibility, Parents Coaches, and Players alike.. IMO the program is losing the "common ground"... I will use the Cougar Way to communicate if and when needed...

My post could go on, but I'm sure everyone wants me to shut up and worry about parenting and teaching myself aned my kids to "deal" with it... so, I will for now...

@Royalsdad: thanks for your comments, very well said...